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« Reply #175 on: September 16, 2012, 12:38:39 PM »

Its a fuckin book you cheeky girl. I didnt write it not did Jimmy Thomson. Don't worry, i'm sure a little man like you is not named in it.
Just because you are reminded of the time Jimmy Thomson outed you as one of Bill Pearl's posing boys who was forced to wear his used posing trunks is no reason for you to turn your venom and born again christian guilt on me.   Get over your past and think positively about your future and god will forgive you Roll Eyes

It's film stars who are the main victims in this book, not bodybuilders.

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« Reply #176 on: September 16, 2012, 12:46:27 PM »

That "Dallas" nut is in love with Reeves, mentions him in every post...

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well i got stalked by a guy called Mike Payne.. he got upset because of a little argument and left Iron Age ...to make him Happy they made the old fart a Mod. He stalked me and followed every post. The guy ranted and raved about religion all the time.. i am sure the old bastard is a perverted old Catholic priest...
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« Reply #177 on: September 16, 2012, 01:12:43 PM »

well i got stalked by a guy called Mike Payne.. he got upset because of a little argument and left Iron Age ...to make him Happy they made the old fart a Mod. He stalked me and followed every post. The guy ranted and raved about religion all the time.. i am sure the old bastard is a perverted old Catholic priest...

Are you not a bit old to dress like a choirboy? Should be safe. Grin

Reminds me of the time the Pope got shot in 1981.   As he was taken into the hospital he woke up, looked around and said "am I in heaven?".  "No" said the stretcher bearer, "we're just walking thru the children's ward"  Cheesy
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« Reply #178 on: September 16, 2012, 01:19:18 PM »

Does this come as a shock to you?  Roll Eyes

Bodybuilding "grew" as a "sport" while in reality since day 1 it was pimping young muscular males to old rich queers.

Yup, that has been going on from the start. However, I suspect this pimping  revelation of Steve Reeves is little more then idle gossip.
If you are writting a book it always helps to drop names and make assosiations to fabricate a scandel and drum up publicity.
Having said that, I wouldn't be too shocked if Reeves was "friendly" to a couple of rich old schmoes that helped him land movie roles during the golden age of Hollywood. I seriously doubt anyone has real proof he did and at most the only proof is heresay.
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« Reply #179 on: September 16, 2012, 01:37:00 PM »

Are you not a bit old to dress like a choirboy? Should be safe. Grin

Reminds me of the time the Pope got shot in 1981.   As he was taken into the hospital he woke up, looked around and said "am I in heaven?".  "No" said the stretcher bearer, "we're just walking thru the children's ward"  Cheesy

.  He. He Grin
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« Reply #180 on: September 16, 2012, 02:20:22 PM »

Its a fuckin book you cheeky girl. I didnt write it not did Jimmy Thomson. Don't worry, i'm sure a little man like you is not named in it.
Just because you are reminded of the time Jimmy Thomson outed you as one of Bill Pearl's posing boys who was forced to wear his used posing trunks is no reason for you to turn your venom and born again christian guilt on me.   Get over your past and think positively about your future and god will forgive you Roll Eyes

It's film stars who are the main victims in this book, not bodybuilders.

I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.
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« Reply #181 on: September 16, 2012, 02:26:01 PM »

My agenda?  What exactly is my agenda?   Huh

Here is another question for you: what is the "agenda" of a man who trains for thousands of hours in the gym, eats like crazy, injects supplements to make his muscles grow unnaturally large (even to the point of risking his health) just so he can put on a thong and flex his muscles for an audience of men?  Or do you still believe the guy who does this is doing it “for the ladies”?  Is musclegallery.com for the ladies?  Connect... the... dots... my friend.  Roll Eyes  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248135.0

I sure as fuck didn't bodybuild and compete because I was "gay'. Maybe in your circles that was the reason but not the majority and after being around it for almost 40 years...I can assure you that wasn't the reason. I'm saying it wasn't for some but for the majority it wasn't.
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« Reply #182 on: September 16, 2012, 02:27:29 PM »

Yup, that has been going on from the start. However, I suspect this pimping  revelation of Steve Reeves is little more then idle gossip.
If you are writting a book it always helps to drop names and make assosiations to fabricate a scandel and drum up publicity.
Having said that, I wouldn't be too shocked if Reeves was "friendly" to a couple of rich old schmoes that helped him land movie roles during the golden age of Hollywood. I seriously doubt anyone has real proof he did and at most the only proof is heresay.
Scotty Bower`s claims are all true. 
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« Reply #183 on: September 16, 2012, 02:29:54 PM »

Scotty doesn't lie—the stars sometimes do—and he knows everybody.”—Gore Vidal

http://www.teddypig.com/2012/02/gore-vidal-backs-up-scotty-bowers/

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From: Queerty ~ Gore Vidal Confirms That Katharine Hepburn Was A Very Slutty Lesbian  http://www.queerty.com/gore-vidal-confirms-that-katharine-hepburn-was-a-very-slutty-lesbian-20120210/
He vouched for Bowers, whose memoir reveals Hollywood’s sexual secrets from his work as a gigolo to tales about iconic actors. The revelations include Bowers’ claims to have set Katharine Hepburn up with “over 150 different women,” along with stories about Spencer Tracy, Cole Porter — even orgies involving the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Vidal told guests he’s never caught Bowers in a lie in the 60-plus years he’s known him in a town “where you can meet 1,000 liars a day.”
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« Reply #184 on: September 16, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/02/gore-vidal-remembered-by-his-closest-friend-scotty-bowers.html

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« Reply #185 on: September 16, 2012, 02:44:46 PM »

I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.

Fucks sake man, why so defensive?  Sorry if I hit a raw nerve.
I seem to remember you admitting you wore Pearl's trunks for a show. I didn't think you thought it a big deal Huh
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« Reply #186 on: September 16, 2012, 02:48:01 PM »

I already called that old fuck out to prove it when he was alive and all he could do it stumble on his words. So if you think this is true....prove it.


Jimmy owns your mind from beyond the grave you tiny looking little downie.

Jimmy was good people, if he said it's true, then it's true.

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« Reply #187 on: September 16, 2012, 03:10:20 PM »


Jimmy owns your mind from beyond the grave you tiny looking little downie.

Jimmy was good people, if he said it's true, then it's true.



Sorry, Jimmy was liar. Slander is slander anyway you cut it. Jimmy had no idea who was before coming on this site.
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« Reply #188 on: September 16, 2012, 03:18:14 PM »

Sorry, Jimmy was liar. Slander is slander anyway you cut it. Jimmy had no idea who was before coming on this site.


Fair enough, just fucking with you Coach but Jimmy was a funny guy god rest his soul.
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« Reply #189 on: September 16, 2012, 03:26:11 PM »

This stuff is no surprise to anyone who understands how Hollywood or bodybuilding works. I lived in Cali for 6 years and did some modeling work...shit is everywhere. Wake up and see the reality.

As for Steve Reeves? What I find the most interesting about him is that he turned down the role for "the man with no name" character in a A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and the Good the Bad and the Ugly that Clint Eastwood played and became an icon. Oh, how would Hollywood be if Steeve did take that role!!! Crazy to think about it.
also turned down james bond. Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #190 on: September 16, 2012, 08:52:32 PM »

also turned down james bond. Cool Cool Cool

I think he would have done a pretty good job.  He would have had to adapt an English accent but his voice was more than deep/masculine enough to have pulled off the role and his looks and physique would have wowed the women.
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« Reply #191 on: September 16, 2012, 11:18:50 PM »

also turned down james bond. Cool Cool Cool

So he pulled out of a 3 movie deal that made eastwood, and turned down the biggest movie franchise ever?

Does this mean pulling out & turning down auditions, because I'm not sure he had what it took for Bond, and if he did, then he must've had a really useless agent
"Nah, don't worry bout those dead-end flicks, I'll make you a star with spaghetti westerns and hercules!"
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« Reply #192 on: September 16, 2012, 11:49:30 PM »

So he pulled out of a 3 movie deal that made eastwood, and turned down the biggest movie franchise ever?

Does this mean pulling out & turning down auditions, because I'm not sure he had what it took for Bond, and if he did, then he must've had a really useless agent
"Nah, don't worry bout those dead-end flicks, I'll make you a star with spaghetti westerns and hercules!"
Steve Reeves was full of shit.  This is not sourced you know, this is just what he claimed.
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« Reply #193 on: September 17, 2012, 12:43:10 AM »

Steve Reeves was full of shit.  This is not sourced you know, this is just what he claimed.

That may be so

But its not entirely his fault that his(fanatic) fans expound this myth of larger than life. Seriously, its like a fanatical religious cult

 
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« Reply #194 on: September 17, 2012, 03:19:14 AM »

also turned down james bond. Cool Cool Cool

Not sure why anyone thinks he turned down the role of James Bond. Connery was the only actor offered it although a lot of men were considered. Steve Reeves defnately was NOT one of them.

But there was one vital element still missing from the production - Saltzman and Broccoli didn't have anyone yet to play Bond. On 5 October 1961, Kinematograph Weekly announced that production on Dr No would not now take place until the following year, allowing the producers to concentrate on their search for a star.

A national newspaper ran a competition looking for the screen Bond and had whittled down more than 1,000 contestants to a more manageable six, all of whom were screen tested by EON at Twickenham studios. Of the six, one man emerged as the clear leader - a young model named Peter Anthony. But he was ultimately deemed unsuitable, though as consolation, he was offered a small part in the film, though he eventually failed to appear.

Others who were reportedly being considered for the role at this time included Richard Johnson [who would later play another fictional British secret agent, Bulldog Drummond], Roger Moore, Rex Harrison, Trevor Howard, Max Von Sydow and Patrick McGoohan. The latter was reportedly offered the role but he turned it down, appalled by the character's brutality and wanton behaviour. Broccoli himself, meanwhile, was keen on pursuing Cary Grant for the role. Fleming favoured either David Niven, Moore or his cousin, Christopher Lee, with his neighbour in Jamaica, Noel Coward, as Dr No, all of whom were deemed unsuitable for one reason or another. In fact Coward himself turned down the part, famously sending a telegraph to the producers which simply read: "Dr. No? No! No! No!"

The first time that Sean Connery's name went into the hat was at a dinner party attended by Saltzman and his wife at the Polish club in London. Also present were producer Benjamin Fisz, and editor Peter Hunt [then finishing off work on a comedy, On The Fiddle, for Fisz and himself a key player in later Bond films]. During dinner, Saltzman mentioned the problems that he and Broccoli had been having in finding the right man to play Bond when Fisz mentioned to Hunt that Connery, who was appearing in the still unfinished On the Fiddle, might fit the bill.

Hunt screened a couple of reels of On the Fiddle featuring Connery for Saltzman, while in the States, Broccoli had already seen Connery's work in the successful Disney comedy-musical Darby O'Gill and the Little People [1958]. Connery, a former naval rating, milkman and labourer, had been toiling away in film and TV since 1957, never really achieving the sort of roles that would best suit his obvious talents.

In October 1961, Connery was invited to EON's offices in Mayfair, London, for the first of a series of interviews with Saltzman and Broccoli. The producers were impressed by what they saw - Broccoli liked the young Scot's body language and Saltzman later revealed [on the BBC's Whicker's World in 1967] that they simply "liked the way he moved..."

United Artists were initially reluctant to employ Connery, feeling that Saltzman and Broccoli could do rather better if they tried hard enough. But Saltzman and Broccoli stood their ground and Connery was offered a multi-picture deal in late October 1961.


Why anyone would think that a guy with muscles who acted in cheap Italian gay titilation movies with a dubbed voice would even be considered for James Bond is beyond me.





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« Reply #195 on: September 17, 2012, 03:28:47 AM »


Why anyone would think that a guy with muscles who acted in cheap Italian gay titilation movies with a dubbed voice would even be considered for James Bond is beyond me.

I also found that dubious

Sort of like casting Steven Seagal for Schindler's list
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« Reply #196 on: September 17, 2012, 03:34:02 AM »

Sean Connery has been quoted that if he had not made "Darby O'Gill and the Little People", he would have never been "Bond."
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« Reply #197 on: September 17, 2012, 03:53:16 AM »

Just like Hoover from the FBI has been labeled as being gay when there is no proof except for a movie script.

Before Hoover was director of the FBI...when he was a relatively minor functionary in the Federal Government...his sexuality was a topic of speculation amongst the locals.
  A retired Naval Officer who was in active service through the 1930's and WWII related to me how Hoover was an object of ridicule in the War Department...was perceived to have been blackmailed by mobsters because of his homosexuality...and was a large part of the reason that homosexuals were excluded from military service at the beginning of WWII.
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« Reply #198 on: September 17, 2012, 04:45:11 AM »

This thread and Reeves career as a sword and sourcery film star of the 1950's has made me think.

We all know who the market for bodybuilding magazines was back in the 40's and 50's when the bodybuilders were photographed naked.

But what about the gladiator/sword and sandal/Hercules  films? Reeves, Park, Gordon Scott ,Brad harris , Lou Dengi etc
The market was abviously gay adult men.  There was even a joke about it in Airplane.   

I guess wealthy gays would pay a lot for Hercules to escort them to dinner.  Not saying that Reeves would take part in uphill gardening mind.
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« Reply #199 on: September 17, 2012, 06:32:36 AM »

Before Hoover was director of the FBI...when he was a relatively minor functionary in the Federal Government...his sexuality was a topic of speculation amongst the locals.
  A retired Naval Officer who was in active service through the 1930's and WWII related to me how Hoover was an object of ridicule in the War Department...was perceived to have been blackmailed by mobsters because of his homosexuality...and was a large part of the reason that homosexuals were excluded from military service at the beginning of WWII.
Hoover's male assistant was his room-mate, as well travelled together everywhere, even on vacation
There are holiday pictures of them, behaving just like what we now deem a "normal" gay couple. Including pics that Hoover took of his "assistant" sleeping. Is it normal for a boss to take his assistant he lives with on holiday, and then take pictures of him sleeping? If it is, then, yes, there's no proof. Moving on...
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