Author Topic: can an average nobody that is not fat achieve a 315 legit bench without roids?  (Read 30659 times)

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it is still vvery far removed from 315lbs for a legit rep which would be 143kg or so

stuart mc robert writes a nobody can achieve a 315 bench

so far i dont see this happening within 5 years
Stuart McRobert should be killed with fire, but it really has to do with your structure. Dwarfs with short arms like Columbu are able to bench 400 easily without gear...

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it is still vvery far removed from 315lbs for a legit rep which would be 143kg or so

stuart mc robert writes a nobody can achieve a 315 bench

so far i dont see this happening within 5 years
are you training as a powerlifter or using fullbody workouts. I don't see it happening on 4-5 days splits doing each muscle once a week ei bench in some form at least 2 times a week. Train the whole upper body as a unit. Copy a benchers training scott mendhenhall comes to mind

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hmmm high 280s...i have to call bs.
I don't doubt you could've moved the bar but i wasn't a legit rep.
on a side note who gives a shit. Benching is for tools. And maxing out is for retarded tools. Use 1-2 plates per side, rep out, and grow.
i went down to the chest and back up but ass got off the bench so somehow get leg pull in there

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are you training as a powerlifter or using fullbody workouts. I don't see it happening on 4-5 days splits doing each muscle once a week ei bench in some form at least 2 times a week. Train the whole upper body as a unit. Copy a benchers training scott mendhenhall comes to mind
i try to use them 5x5 routines written by glenn pendley/mark rippetoe/bill star

which is basically bench on monday and friday, piramid one heavy set on monday (3 or 5 rep)and 5x5 or 3x3 on friday and shoulder pressing on wednesday

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Just stick to that if you want a big bench......if you want that.

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Just stick to that if you want a big bench......if you want that.
i just want to be able to put 3 shiny plates each side

it looks magical

(totally given up on any idea of getting big and shredded)

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Patience, grasshopper.....

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I've literally only seen three people (not including myself) bench over 300 lbs in my life. Yet when I come online, there are 300+ lb benchers everywhere. Odd.

EXACTLY

i come from the town of "bench press guys" as another full powerliftering dude (squat, bench, dead) used to call us (that town being Columbus, Ohio) and a 315 bench was not so common

there was a fella named JM Blakely and he was one of those "bench press guys" and he could only press 440 @ 220 and he was far from natural

a legit 315 bench is VERY IMPRESSIVE

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EXACTLY

i come from the town of "bench press ####" as another full powerliftering dude (squat, bench, dead) used to call us (that town being Columbus, Ohio) and a 315 bench was not so common

there was a fella named JM Blakely and he was one of those "bench press ####" and he could only press 440 @ 220 and he was far from natural

a legit 315 bench is VERY IMPRESSIVE


You live in a shit hole town with purely 9-5ers who go to the gym (planet fitness) to read their kindle.

So naturally, no one there will be benching 135, let alone 315.

In the real world however, most of us have seen a good few people benching 3 plates.

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Lots of very strong guys out there natural and enhanced.

you can`t just make a blanket statement.........well you can,but you shouldn`t.



Muscle memory is very legit. Like cosmic karma, the fact that you have busted your balls to get that muscle means that it is never far away. Seen this with a few older guys i know (no homo).
Trans Milkshake.

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I've literally only seen three people (not including myself) bench over 300 lbs in my life. Yet when I come online, there are 300+ lb benchers everywhere. Odd.

Have you played sports, went to college, went to a gym, live in a city?  At my college the male cheerleaders benched 3 plates a side.  No joke. Almost everyone on the football team could lift 3 plates easily.

Now if you go to a curves or 24 hour fitness then you might not see that many.

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NO FUCKING WAY.
A lean (12%bf max) nattie can not bench 315. Never believe otherwise.
Forget about repping that out.
You really mean this ?

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Brutal strength is something you don't need drugs for, just a good training program. Even when you come off drugs if you do happen to use them, you should still have quite a fuckload of strength afterwards. I benched 350lbs for 3 reps when I did Superdrol for the first time and even when I didn't have anything in my system for a year I could still throw up 3 plates.

I've seen other true naturals bench even more than that, and I'm not saying it was an impressive feat at all. I always thought that I was pretty weak, especially after believing all the fake stats from people on bodybuilding.com. People in real life think I lift heavy but between the fake stats and natural liars, I don't really know what's strong and what's weak. Everyone fucking lies. But I've seen REAL naturals bench as much as me, even more, so it's definitely possible.

Outside of power lifting, showing off and ego-lifting, I don't see any reason to bench that high. That's begging for an injury. I don't bench anymore than 225lbs on flat because anything more than that takes away from my chest and starts getting sketchy for the shoulder joint. Even if I were 20lbs heavier in pure muscle I couldn't see myself needing to bench much more than that at all.
Very good post...especially the comment on bb.com,where everyone seems to add at least 20lbs. to their bodyweight and God knows how much to their lifts-especially bench
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Yes I saw a lot of guys in college get more than that. At the beggining of our weight training we would max out. Then take a percentage of that and do reps. Every week we would add more weight. We all gained a good amount of strenght by the end of the program. Having a spotter and all the motivation really helped. Guys cheering you on etc.

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Yes I saw a lot of guys in college get more than that. At the beggining of our weight training we would max out. Then take a percentage of that and do reps. Every week we would add more weight. We all gained a good amount of strenght by the end of the program. Having a spotter and all the motivation really helped. Guys cheering you on etc.

What always amazed me is the guys who didn't look like they could but they'd be strong fuckers.

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Very good post...especially the comment on bb.com,where everyone seems to add at least 20lbs. to their bodyweight and God knows how much to their lifts-especially bench

Dude, add an extra 0 onto that. Those kids are all fucking brainwashed liars.

I thought that because it was a site so huge that there's no way it could be a collusion, but I was wrong. It's a cult just like religion. You wouldn't think millions of people would be that fucking retarded, but then you learn the sad truth and lose faith in humanity. Ah well, as least I can really lift what I claim lol... even though lifting that heavy does absolutely nothing but hammer the CNS and put you at risk for injury. :(

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i actually stay lean and small despite eating plenty amounts of calories even a lot of "crap" too and no cardio

still i would hate to be fat, it shortens ur dick

Define "fat".

And define "plenty of calories". What's your bodyweight and your caloric intake?

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Dude, add an extra 0 onto that. Those kids are all fucking brainwashed liars.

I thought that because it was a site so huge that there's no way it could be a collusion, but I was wrong. It's a cult just like religion. You wouldn't think millions of people would be that fucking retarded, but then you learn the sad truth and lose faith in humanity. Ah well, as least I can really lift what I claim lol... even though lifting that heavy does absolutely nothing but hammer the CNS and put you at risk for injury. :(

Those are the exact same kids that will saturate the GH15 website and get milked for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  It is a sad thing.

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Those are the exact same kids that will saturate the GH15 website and get milked for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  It is a sad thing.

It's better that they know the truth so they can make an informed decision. A lot of they will refuse to take the unnatural path and that will be their choice. But at least they won't get milked from the supplement industry. If they take steroids and GH they'll get the results that are claimed.

I wish I had known that before I spent thousands on supplements. I would have just kept training naturally until I felt I was ready for juice, then I would have juiced. Wasted so much fucking money... :(

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Exactly, man!!!

I posted religiously on bodybuilding.com and was amazed at how everyone on the internet was a massive beast throwing around crazy weights. I lifted as hard as I could and ended up smoking 315lbs but realized it was just a handful of people that actually lifted that heavy in real life. A few legit naturals I knew, a few juicers and that was about it. It's not like it's too tough or anything but it goes to show how much people lie online. I've been to multiple gyms and also trained at a few gyms in the US anytime I went down there, and it was the same shit down there too.

The one good thing about that though is that it showed me how strong the mind is too. I probably never would have pressed over 135lbs had I heard about "how heavy" people online were lifting. I didn't think it was possible until I heard of people supposedly throwing around big weights like it was nothing. I lifted as hard as I could and made sure to continually progress and then I hit all my goals. It made me realize that a lot of it is in our heads too. If I didn't think that it was super easy, I probably would have kept all the mental roadblocks in place and never lifted heavy at all. I'm glad that people online are insecure pieces of shit because it worked out in my favour. :)

Haha, so true. If everyone online told their real stats I'd be far less inclined to work my ass off in the gym. But when I keep reading that everyone is repping 300+ it makes me feel weak so I work harder.

On a side note, it took me over four months of solid trenbolone usage to get a 300+ lb bench. I flat bench maybe once a month, I only do incline smith bench, incline dumbbell bench and incline hammer strength. That's developed my chest way more than flat bench.

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You really mean this ?

absolutely. I've never seen it happening and i've trained in many many gym has never happened.
Hell is even hard to see lean juiced lifters lifting that much.
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You live in a shit hole town with purely 9-5ers who go to the gym (planet fitness) to read their kindle.

So naturally, no one there will be benching 135, let alone 315.

In the real world however, most of us have seen a good few people benching 3 plates.

so Westside Barbell is a shithole club :D :D :D

here's JM Blakely BTW

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Haha, so true. If everyone online told their real stats I'd be far less inclined to work my ass off in the gym. But when I keep reading that everyone is repping 300+ it makes me feel weak so I work harder.

On a side note, it took me over four months of solid trenbolone usage to get a 300+ lb bench. I flat bench maybe once a month, I only do incline smith bench, incline dumbbell bench and incline hammer strength. That's developed my chest way more than flat bench.

Yeah, that's the only thing I'm grateful for. I was honestly scared at how weak I was and did everything in my power to lift like a "regular fella", but then I realized no one else was lifting nearly as heavy save for a few hardcores! I like smith machine inclines, the chest press machine at my gym, dumbbell inclines, cable flies and weighted dips. My gym doesn't have much for chest but these are doing the trick for me.

I don't bench heavy because I got a small pec tear and have no idea when or what it came from. Thankfully there's nothing cosmetic about it other than a lot of weakness in that pec and a slight recession from the middle part of my chest. I have to really twist around in a weird way to see it but I've felt it for the past year or so. No idea where it came from but it's enough for me to eliminate flat bench except for doing burn out sets or pump sets, whatever you wanna call that shit. I love doing those at the end of a chest session. Nothing humbles you more than getting your ass whooped by tiny ass weights at the end of a good workout. ;D

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Haha, so true. If everyone online told their real stats I'd be far less inclined to work my ass off in the gym. But when I keep reading that everyone is repping 300+ it makes me feel weak so I work harder.

On a side note, it took me over four months of solid trenbolone usage to get a 300+ lb bench. I flat bench maybe once a month, I only do incline smith bench, incline dumbbell bench and incline hammer strength. That's developed my chest way more than flat bench.

How much base did you have? It took me around 5 years training naturally to be able to get #315 for 1 or 2.

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Haha, so true. If everyone online told their real stats I'd be far less inclined to work my ass off in the gym. But when I keep reading that everyone is repping 300+ it makes me feel weak so I work harder.

On a side note, it took me over four months of solid trenbolone usage to get a 300+ lb bench. I flat bench maybe once a month, I only do incline smith bench, incline dumbbell bench and incline hammer strength. That's developed my chest way more than flat bench.
Benching is way overrated bro,for some with a natural predisposition to the exercise,it works wonders,for other obsessed with increasing their one rep max,it builds power if worked correctly,for the delusional or uninformed whose goal is to bench 500 pounds,it`s a shoulder destroyer.

Some guys will never be able to bench a ton of weight,others will just do it no problem.