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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1275 on: March 29, 2012, 01:26:29 PM »
Those living or having lived in a bubble -- what the fuck would they know about the blacks as the few example above illustrate.  ::)

It's a culture of thugs and who*res. They are a culture that celebrates their 10 year old daughter(s) dancing like whores (tradition is it with overly suggestive behavior?), and they are damn proud of it. What type of parent in their right mind is proud of something like that? Look around the world it's the same where ever blacks have mixed with other races. What can they possibly expect when their daughters grow up? Not much in anyone's book. Maybe pop a kid by 15 and live on the welfare system for the rest of their lives.

Sense of entitlement has never ended with the lower to middle class African Americans. 400 years of forced servitude does not lend them that credibility. The white man has raped the Natives left and right in every way which possible, as have the Brits all over the world. They all got over it. Yet, the nature of the black man and women remains that of wild animals. If they want something they will take it from you. i.e. Two times a friend and brother went to the store with my bike - some nig_ga just rode it off.

You could see it in the distance as they rode off they said, as they quickly came out after running in to get something. This was in the old neighborhood, where to be safe you had to lock your garage and bike even if it stood right in front of your house. The ghetto trash didn't live far off - maybe only a few kilometer. Now, i live in a upscale housing development - can leave the garage open all day - never had a problem.

Have they really evolved?  ::) Some of them - ABSOLUTELY NO!

Is it the skin color keeping them back?

Is natural selection keeping them back?

Society provides all of us many opportunities in the Western world whether you are white, black, blue, or red. Don't expect them to come too you while you sit back and smoke mary jane all day. You have to go out there and get it - no one is going to hand you anything in a silver platter. I had black colleagues in post-secondary studies that were there because of the color of their skin - not because of merit. We have students in law schools because of affirmative action, not because they have any cerebral matter up north. It's called the holistic approach in law school for minorities - specifically blacks and natives (deservingly so after having been raped and robbed of their land). I am minority - except i don't fit any criteria black, white, or blue, so we work hard for we what have. What we don't have - we aspire to get when we have the means.

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1276 on: March 29, 2012, 01:27:01 PM »
zimmerman had no blood on him'

im no Columbo but it looks like zimmerman shot him from a distance
So basically we have the plot of a unfinished Tom Clancy novel
You have it all, murder, shoddy police work, a Latino with a non-Latino last name, with an alibi of being beaten up, no marks on him or Trayvon. He has family in the VA judicial system, Trayvon likes skittles and wears a hoodie, and Zimmerman's friend Joe Oliver claims to know Zimmerman, quites his job to speak on his behalf, but doesn't know him at all.
The remarks of a coroner would be better!?
You're right. But, scraps and bruising would still be there when the mortician has to prepare the body...to make it look like the incident never took place. Especially after such a "brutal" beat down that he supposedly gave Zimmerman

  

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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1277 on: March 29, 2012, 01:30:19 PM »
Those living or having lived in a bubble -- what the fuck would they know about the blacks as the few example above illustrate.  ::)

It's a culture of thugs and who*res. They are a culture that celebrates their 10 year old daughter(s) dancing like whores (tradition is it with overly suggestive behavior?), and they are damn proud of it. What type of parent in their right mind is proud of something like that? Look around the world it's the same where ever blacks have mixed with other races. What can they possibly expect when their daughters grow up? Not much in anyone's book. Maybe pop a kid by 15 and live on the welfare system for the rest of their lives.

Sense of entitlement has never ended with the lower to middle class African Americans. 400 years of forced servitude does not lend them that credibility. The white man has raped the Natives left and right in every way which possible, as have the Brits all over the world. They all got over it. Yet, the nature of the black man and women remains that of wild animals. If they want something they will take it from you. i.e. Two times a friend and brother went to the store with my bike - some nig_ga just rode it off.

Have they really evolved?  ::) Some of them - ABSOLUTELY NO!

Is it the skin color keeping them back?

Is natural selection keeping them back?

Society provides all of us many opportunities in the Western world whether you are white, black, blue, or red. Don't expect them to come too you while you sit back and smoke mary jane all day. You have to go out there and get it - no one is going to hand you anything in a silver platter. I had black colleagues in post-secondary studies that were there because of the color of their skin - not because of merit. We have students in law schools because of affirmative action, not because they have any cerebral matter up north. It's called the holistic approach in law school for minorities - specifically blacks and natives (deservingly so after having been raped and robbed of their land). I am minority - except i don't fit any criteria black, white, or blue, so we work hard for we what have. What we don't have - we aspire to get when we have the means.

haha damn right i agree with this, we came here as immigrants from the USSR and now my parents drive benzes, i love this country if you got the talent and the hard work you can be whatever you want, sure there's still prejudice, sure some people are born into money, everyone starts at a different spot but you CAN succeed that's why it gets to me when blacks blame "the system" don't blame the system blame yourself! no i repeat NO ONE that is a native born american has any excuse to not succeed.

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everybody says zimmerman is white, how does he look more white than Mr. Levrone?

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Re: Is it legal to defend yourself?
« Reply #1279 on: March 29, 2012, 01:35:53 PM »
Criminal law is largely governed by the states.  In order to be charged as a criminal in Federal Court, you must be alleged to have violated a Federal Statute, i.e., tax evasion, etc.

Each state has its own criminal code which define crimes and defenses to those crimes.  Parker is quite right re: state's rights.  Some state's are much more progressive than others.  A non-criminal example is the doctrine of "caveat emptor:" Latin for "buyer beware."  New York still follows the traditional caveat emptor rule when it comes to real property.  Other more progressive states, such as California, abolished this rule in favor of one that puts the burden on the seller, not the buyer.


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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1280 on: March 29, 2012, 01:35:58 PM »
^Ahh, yes the Native Americans have surely gotten over having their land taken from them...
Yep, they are some happy people now, especially because their numbers are so low...

And yep, every black person in law school is there because they have no brains...considering the fact that their are more women-white, black, Asian, Latino getting JD and graduate degrees than men, I guess by your logic these women are not that bright as well.

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Surely Levrone would have squeezed out a "most muscular" pose deflecting any bullets fired at him instantly.



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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1282 on: March 29, 2012, 01:42:00 PM »
zimmerman had no blood on him'

im no Columbo but it looks like zimmerman shot him from a distance

Perhaps Professor Plum was the killer and he used a candlestick.

Every single thing zimmerpig says is a lie. Everything.
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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1283 on: March 29, 2012, 01:43:07 PM »
^Ahh, yes the Native Americans have surely gotten over having their land taken from them...
Yep, they are some happy people now, especially because their numbers are so low...

And yep, every black person in law school is there because they have no brains...considering the fact that their are more women-white, black, Asian, Latino getting JD and graduate degrees than men, I guess by your logic these women are not that bright as well.

not all but some for sure, affirmative action covers gender too not just race

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Re: Is it legal to defend yourself?
« Reply #1284 on: March 29, 2012, 01:45:19 PM »
After the recent Zimmerman vs Trayvon accident in which somehow Zimmerman ended up discharging the gun at Trayvon and killing himself. Obviously a 250lbs 5'9 would not be able to run down a 6'3 170lb lean football player so Trayvon must have attacked first.

So, in USA if I am to be attacked by an African American and I am white is it legal for me to defend myself? Or am I being racist by using any means of self defense necessary? Do I have an rights as a white person?

Most prosecutors want to be politicians. Which means if your white and not GGewish, you're fucked.  Better off to depose the body where no one will find it and go on with your life like nothing happened.

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1285 on: March 29, 2012, 01:45:29 PM »
So basically we have the plot of a unfinished Tom Clancy novel
You have it all, murder, shoddy police work, a Latino with a non-Latino last name, with an alibi of being beaten up, no marks on him or Trayvon. He has family in the VA judicial system, Trayvon likes skittles and wears a hoodie, and Zimmerman's friend Joe Oliver claims to know Zimmerman, quites his job to speak on his behalf, but doesn't know him at all.You're right. But, scraps and bruising would still be there when the mortician has to prepare the body...to make it look like the incident never took place. Especially after such a "brutal" beat down that he supposedly gave Zimmerman

  



haha throw in some missing nukes, rogue soviet generals and cia conspiracy then you got a tom clancy novel

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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1286 on: March 29, 2012, 01:48:15 PM »
not all but some for sure, affirmative action covers gender too not just race
Quite true, and women have benefitted a hell of lot more than any man of any race have.
And I am willing to bet, many of those women are a lot smarter than the poster is.

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1287 on: March 29, 2012, 01:49:40 PM »
.You're right. But, scraps and bruising would still be there when the mortician has to prepare the body...to make it look like the incident never took place. Especially after such a "brutal" beat down that he supposedly gave Zimmerman
Hmm. Sorry, what I meant was, was there not an autopsy that would have addressed this!? Sending a body to the fixers without an autopsy, in light of this shitstorm, would be a grievous mistake, I be thinking.     

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1288 on: March 29, 2012, 01:51:09 PM »
George Zimmerman did not seek medical treatment until the next day, even after he allegedly had his nose broken and his head “slammed” into the sidewalk several times (or, as his lawyer claims, simply fell down and hit the back of his head).




A broken nose is not “great bodily harm”. I’ve had my nose broken playing sports, and aside from the gusher of a nose-bleed, the injury causes redness, a lot of swelling, sometimes an obvious displacement of the nose, and even if not at the time of injury, a person with a broken nose usually develops two spectacular black eyes over the next three days. Boxers get broken noses regularly, and kids get them from baseballs, a misplaced elbow on the basketball court, falling off bikes. If, in fact, Zimmerman’s nose was broken, I expect that there will be medical documentation and probably pictures showing this injury in all its black-and-blue glory.

Scalp Wounds Are Notoriously Bloody




Scalp Wounds Are Notoriously Bloody
The other injury mentioned is a cut to the back of Zimmerman’s head, which his attorney described as “needing stitches”. They also claim that no stitches were used, because Zimmerman waited a day before seeking medical attention. This implies medical records that would document both the injuries and the fact that the wound could not be stitched.

But let’s think a little about a cut to the scalp. Scalp wounds are notorious for bleeding profusely, because the scalp has a rich blood supply and the blood vessels in the scalp don’t constrict. Between that cut to the scalp and the busted nose, there should have been a lot of blood on Zimmerman, and with a cut that needed 11-12 stitches it would likely be difficult to stop the bleeding without medical attention.

On March 28, ABC aired surveillance film from Sanford P.D. showing George Zimmerman on the night of the killing. There is no blood on Zimmerman’s clothing, his nose is not swollen, red, or mashed sideways, and there’s no blood on the back of his head. If Trayvon Martin had been on top of Zimmerman when the gun was fired, Treyvon’s blood should be on Zimmerman, but there’s no evidence of any blood in these video shots.

The initial police report states that an officer on the scene observed that “[Zimmerman's] back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head.” No grass, wet, or blood appears in the videos from the police station.



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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1289 on: March 29, 2012, 01:52:34 PM »
Hmm. Sorry, what I meant was, was there not an autopsy that would have addressed this!? Sending a body to the fixers without an autopsy, in light of this shitstorm, would be a grievous mistake, I be thinking.     
I don't know if they had an autopsy or not. If not, that is another knotch in the bedpost for this case

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1290 on: March 29, 2012, 01:54:03 PM »
George Zimmerman did not seek medical treatment until the next day, even after he allegedly had his nose broken and his head “slammed” into the sidewalk several times[/glow] (or, as his lawyer claims, simply fell down and hit the back of his head).
So, where areZimmerman's booking photos!? Those always leak. Should be a bit more enlightening.

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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1291 on: March 29, 2012, 01:54:15 PM »
There is no such thing as "race".

You americans are stupid. This shit only happens on america.

Im white, you black, hes latino, LOL

No everybody is mixed, there inst no pure white, no pure black whatsoever.

I love when I see Skinheads claiming "WHITE POWER", white power what? Are you some kind of scandinavian pureblood? NO you aren´t. Not even the German Nazi was Pureblood Caucasian. Not even Hitler was. Same for blacks or "mexicanos". We are all mixed at this point of humankind.

That´s just how stupid world is becoming. They just need a reason to violence.



You illustrate a good point.  There should be no such thing as race.  We should all judge each others as inherently equal and then let merit decide everything from then.

Unfortunately the US government uses race and ethnicity statistics and divides citizens into classes based on that.  Some races are "protected classes" and are treated differently by private businesses and colleges.  So the biggest prevention of Americans treating themselves is our government defining us as different.

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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1292 on: March 29, 2012, 01:55:28 PM »
There is no such thing as "race".

You americans are stupid. This shit only happens on america.

Im white, you black, hes latino, LOL

No everybody is mixed, there inst no pure white, no pure black whatsoever.

I love when I see Skinheads claiming "WHITE POWER", white power what? Are you some kind of scandinavian pureblood? NO you aren´t. Not even the German Nazi was Pureblood Caucasian. Not even Hitler was. Same for blacks or "mexicanos". We are all mixed at this point of humankind.

That´s just how stupid world is becoming. They just need a reason to violence.




Its Pandora's box the futher down the line you get away from the pure blood. Regardless if white or black or whatever. Anyone thinking we're all the same isn't paying attention to nature...

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1293 on: March 29, 2012, 01:55:40 PM »
So, where areZimmerman's booking photos!? Those always leak. Should be a bit more enlightening.

They do not exist. He was only detained for questions, never arrested or booked. Never. Not even for 30 minutes.
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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1294 on: March 29, 2012, 01:59:39 PM »

haha throw in some missing nukes, rogue soviet generals and cia conspiracy then you got a tom clancy novel
Let's play the NRA angle---a overzealous shooter who grew up approximately 23 minutes away from NRA headquarters...

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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1295 on: March 29, 2012, 02:00:39 PM »
A 1/3 of Russian immigrants are on welfare. 66% of elderly Russian immigrants are on welfare. All the Russians I've come across driving bmw's and Benz's are involved in car theft rings.  ;)

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In LA, that is 100% correct. IMO
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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1296 on: March 29, 2012, 02:01:18 PM »
They do not exist. He was only detained for questions, never arrested or booked. Never. Not even for 30 minutes.
Haha. That Chief is in such deep shit. Bring a shooting suspect to the station in cuffs, and not book him in!? He's f*cked.

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1297 on: March 29, 2012, 02:01:44 PM »
Let's play the NRA angle---a overzealous shooter who grew up approximately 23 minutes away from NRA headquarters...

That's a pretty damn close approximation.
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Re: How do we as whites protect ourselves from racial violence. Serious thread
« Reply #1298 on: March 29, 2012, 02:03:17 PM »
You illustrate a good point.  There should be no such thing as race.  We should all judge each others as inherently equal and then let merit decide everything from then.

Unfortunately the US government uses race and ethnicity statistics and divides citizens into classes based on that.  Some races are "protected classes" and are treated differently by private businesses and colleges.  So the biggest prevention of Americans treating themselves is our government defining us as different.

this is wishful thinking but in reality race does define your actions and nature to some degree, i am not native born have visited many countries, it's sort of a hobby of mine to observe various nationalities and races and trends in their behaviour

your comment is like saying "we shouldn't categorize dogs are chihuahuas or golden retrieves or huskies or jackals or wolves, they're all dogs right?" well on paper maybe but if you try to play with a wold a wolf like you do a chihuahua he will bite your face off

same with protected species, if there was no "protected classes" as you call it then it would be survival of the fittest and we could kill each other at will based on race

it's really no different with people.
and yes we are all just highly advanced animals

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Re: Zimmerman - Self Defense or Police Cover Up?
« Reply #1299 on: March 29, 2012, 02:03:57 PM »