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« Reply #150 on: April 25, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »

the only way jon will ever win is if he never gambles again.

but he won't. it's an addiction as powerful as meth or crack. I hope he gets help before its too late cause he's red flag behaviors (industry talk for problem gamblers) all over the place. they lose everything. first it's the bank account. then it's cc debt. then the second and third mortgage in the house. then the wife leaves. after that... you don't hear a lot about. it's a shitty seedy industry and what you don't know would sicken you. why do you think you never hear from those guys/ women after all that happens to them. after they lose it all. why don't you hear about them anymore. you know why. nobody talks about it. god damn the gaming industry.

Hehe, that's why I must take the gaming industry down. Let's bankrupt the casinos, all of them, with my systems! Who's with me here? Grin
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« Reply #151 on: April 25, 2012, 10:15:53 PM »

Why is it so hard for you to keep your perseverance, and to not give up on the possibility of a genuine winning system? Don't let the big nasty casino get you down. Where's your never-say-die spirit? I'm certainly not a quitter.

My first real job was in the computer department for a big city newspaper, training editors how to use computers to compose the pages...During quiet moments I wrote programs to simulate casino games in order to test "systems"...Nothing worked.
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« Reply #152 on: April 26, 2012, 12:16:02 AM »

POLY,

That sounds like Diamonds Are Forever released in  1971 but I can recall the Las Vegas Strip ten years earlier when you could not find the road on windy days due to the desert sand covering it.

And the small two story hotel/motels were a half mile apart with 4x8 plywood boards on vacant desert lots in between those hotel/motels advertising Strip-front acreage at $300 each.

Much later on I was told that all that desert road-front property was owned by Mae West and W.C. Fields.

One hot day I got out of the car to take a closer look at some roadside dirt and the melting tarmac sucked off my shoe and fought my struggle to get it back.

Back then that road was just   desert dirt and a melting two lane roadway. I don’t recall if it was called The Strip back then. I sort of recall that it was known as the “Road to LA”, but I could be wrong.

Three or four of those early day casinos would have nice looking but non-electric , wooden sigms letting drive-bys know that it was cool inside and that you could eat all you wanted for 99 cents. I can’t recall if the word “buffet” was even used in those early days.

At Doc’s place (the Hacienda) you could drink cold Champaigne free of charge from a silver fountain which flowed all day long.

And each hotel/casino on that roadway to LA had greeters who would meet and greet you with open arms and hardy handshakes as soon as you entered the front door. Some of those greeters were major stars or sport personalities. I think George Raft bought us a few rounds one night upon our arrival at the Sands.

And if you wore your military uniform or had a Marine Corps haircut, you were treated as though you were royalty with a persomal escort to the bar where drinks were always on the house.

And soon enough the booz encouraged us to give Lady Luck a try while the Pit Bosses would always look over us and offer good advice and inform us when it was time to return to the bar to recharge our batteries befoe  our next assault on Lady Luck.

There was a war on someplace and we were active combat participants and this was the casino’s way of expressing there appreciation and gratitude ...... and a $60 to a $100 win due to the help of these casino civilians was big bucks back then and truly appreciated.,

And we never hit the rack without some major casino ‘boss’ giving us his card and informing us that arrangement had been made for us Marines at the next casino down the road.

Back in those days Las Vegas had the reputation of being a service town … and that was exceptionally evident to us  US service guys.

It can never be the same again but if I ever get the opportunity to show these hotel and casino owners how it was done back then, it would all change for the better for each of us.

Back then you could go downtown to Fremontr Street and tie your ass to hitching post if you could finf a vacant one or one that an old desert prospector was saddleing up to head back to God knows where to search for something that would be utterly worthless today.

One major thing that today’s casinos have forgotten to do …. Back then the casino owners or the major casino figurehead would walk the casino floor greeting his ganbling customers and slip a roll of nickels or a roll of dimes into their hands with a hardy, “Good luck!” and a. “Welcome to the Horseshoe! Thanks for coming in!”

That’s done no longer, but it sure as hell should be.

The last casino owner I’ve seen on the floor greeting his customers was Bob Stupak at the old Vegas World over ten years ago., but instead of a roll of nickles, he only offered a Polish hot-dog and a few words of encouragement.

Now-a-days it’s entirely different and Las Vegas visitors don’t expect too much when it cones to service. That’s most likely brcause they have no idea what kind of town Las Vegas use to be. They even play Blackjack where the casinos pay even money instead of 3-2. (A very dumb thing indeed!)

I recall driving from Camp Pendleton one summer afternoon in a little convertible sports car without the ‘roof' .... and reaching Baker when it was 115 degrees and purchasing a 100 pounds of ice which we dunped on the seats in an attempt to keep cool.

And driving the last 50 miles into town in first gear because the deserrt wind blew some desert dirt into our vacunn shift mechanism.

And many hours later we pulled into the fountain filled driveway of a brand bew hotel called Caesars Palace … hot and tire and dripping wet … and…

The valet guy sees us creeping up his beautiful fountain filled driveway first gear and says, “Having car problems, sir??

And before I can say, “Yes, you dumb shit” ….. he says, “It’ll be fixed and ready for you by 10 AM. Will you be needing transportation this evening, sir?”

That’s the kind of town Las Vegas used to be!

It’s got a lot to learn …. Once again.

Its gotta start over or it'll wither away like an old desert bone.
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« Reply #153 on: April 26, 2012, 01:53:17 AM »

REP, Thanks for understanding what I was trying to describe in one of my above posts ... i.e. "Take your small winnings and get the hell of the casino!"

I have friends who laugh when I am happy with a small win. Two in particular go to various casinos with me on a weekly basis and play max $3 on various slot machines and when and if they ever win (which is very seldom) , they claim bragging rights.

But in truth each of them loses more than most of you GetBiggers make in any given month when you total up the damages.

Just last night friend 'A' played some dumb machine in the Cosmopolitan that would pay off $22,000 if you hit the bonus. And over the next few hours after 4 to 5 trips to the ATM machine he had put roughly $2,000 into that damn machine without even ever coming close to a Bonus round.

He honestly thinks that the next turn of the reels will pay off his losses.

Same for another friend who lost $1,100 playing roulette with a 'system' he says he invented  .... cover the first and the last 12 numbers on the roulette table , but he lost it all because the middle 12 numbers were predominate.

He was devestated because that $1,100 was for his return trip home. and he had to call his family to carry him through.

A couple of hours ago I  was in the Orleans and won $5.60 and also  took a free pull on the $12,700,000 Megabucks slot machine at the Palms and managed to win $10.

That's a $15.60 profit for today's casino visits and that's better than a kick in the ass or a $2,000 loss.

My friends are greedy gamblers.

JON, It appears that I cannot convince you that there are no casino systems known to man that will make you wealthy. On some occasions you may be "LUCKY" and win some cash using a system but that stye of win  will never be consistent as these system sellers claim

But if you feel otherwise, I would suggest that you get the recommended bankroll in order and head off to the nearest roulette table and give it a go.

I can almost guarantee you that you'll come out empty handed.

Systems are 'invented' by gamblers who have lost all their money using their systems or someone else's system while spending too damn much time in a casino. They hope to regain that lost capital by selling you systems that never work.

Your friend should have covered the middle 12 of the roulette table once those particular numbers started coming up. I say be fluid like water as Bruce Lee so famously said and bet WITH the streak; since roulette's a game of streaks, it's very hard to lose that way. I've heard of a guy who kept betting on Black when Red kept coming up, but what if he went with the flow (instead of trying to defy it) instead? He would be jacked with cash!
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« Reply #154 on: April 26, 2012, 07:27:30 PM »

JON, When are you going to use one of these systems you so highly regard in real like in a real Las Vegas casino?
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« Reply #155 on: April 26, 2012, 07:35:04 PM »

JON, When are you going to use one of these systems you so highly regard in real like in a real Las Vegas casino?
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« Reply #156 on: April 26, 2012, 09:12:15 PM »

JON, When are you going to use one of these systems you so highly regard in real like in a real Las Vegas casino?

well that is where it get's a little tricky for most of these people  Grin
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« Reply #157 on: April 26, 2012, 11:58:53 PM »

JON, When are you going to use one of these systems you so highly regard in real like in a real Las Vegas casino?

I'll be using them in an online casino once I finish trialling all my methods. I can't wait!
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« Reply #158 on: April 27, 2012, 09:24:46 AM »

I'll be using them in an online casino once I finish trialling all my methods. I can't wait!

OMG  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #159 on: April 27, 2012, 11:08:57 AM »

OMG  Roll Eyes

Hehe, I'll probably be using the "Win Line" method. Of course you need to make the right selections too, and that's where my secret 'betting with the streaks' formula comes in. That's unbeatable, I tell you, because roulette, as I said, is a game of streaks.
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« Reply #160 on: April 27, 2012, 11:50:40 AM »

JON, Good luck at the game of Roulette and your system. If it works constantly in you favor, you could publish it and sell it and make a hell of a lot more money in the process  ..... much more than you'll ever make playing your system

And that will teach ya all about the many others who spend their time selling systems over the net and in a couple of Las Vegas gambler's book stores.

They write those pamphlets and publications in an attempt to regain the money lost using their system.

For your sake I hope you don't learn this the hard way.
 
Only risk what  you can afford to lose. And if it works once, don't expect it to keep on working.

If it does keep on working, consider it to be a miracle.

Can you please give me a good idea of your idea of what a STREAK is?

Does it mean something like the following?

A "streak" of Ten consecutive even numbers? Or ten consectutive odd numbers?
A 'streak' of ten odds or ten evens? A 'streak' of consectutive reds  and blacks?
Etc.

Today I'll stand by a roulette table and write the numbers down as they come up and pass those numbers to you in an effort to see  if a 'streak' is evident.

I think 20 numbers should be sufficient to determine if there is some form of streak. But if I have the time, I'll stay longer.

And most important .... How far into a 'streak' must you "travel" before you start placing your bets?

Amd don't be surprised if that 'streak' changes the moment you place a sizable bet.
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« Reply #161 on: April 27, 2012, 12:23:52 PM »

JON, Good luck at the game of Roulette and your system. If it works constantly in you favor, you could publish it and sell it and make a hell of a lot more money in the process  ..... much more than you'll ever make playing your system

And that will teach ya all about the many others who spend their time selling systems over the net and in a couple of Las Vegas gambler's book stores.

They write those pamphlets and publications in an attempt to regain the money lost using their system.

For your sake I hope you don't learn this the hard way.
 
Only risk what  you can afford to lose. And if it works once, don't expect it to keep on working.

If it does keep on working, consider it to be a miracle.

Can you please give me a good idea of your idea of what a STREAK is?

Does it mean something like the following?

A "streak" of Ten consecutive even numbers? Or ten consectutive odd numbers?
A 'streak' of ten odds or ten evens? A 'streak' of consectutive reds  and blacks?
Etc.

Today I'll stand by a roulette table and write the numbers down as they come up and pass those numbers to you in an effort to see  if a 'streak' is evident.

I think 20 numbers should be sufficient to determine if there is some form of streak. But if I have the time, I'll stay longer.

And most important .... How far into a 'streak' must you "travel" before you start placing your bets?

Amd don't be surprised if that 'streak' changes the moment you place a sizable bet.


A streak occurs if there 2 or more Reds or Blacks in a row, like Red, Red, Red or Black, Black, Black. The most for a particular colour I have seen appearing in succession at my online casino is ten Blacks. Another type of streak is Red, Black, Red, Black, Red, Black, and so on. Whichever streak comes up, simply bet WITH it. If there are 2 Reds or Blacks appearing, then a streak has already started, and you should bet. If 3 alternating numbers have appeared like Red, Black, Red, then that's another streak, and you should bet. Why don't you try combining this with the "Win Line" system below? Even with small stakes per try, you can win lots of money pretty soon. Another (less effective) method is to bet on only the first and second columns, switching to the third column (plus either one or both of the other 2 columns to be safest) after it strikes. Once the third column stops hitting, then revert to betting on the first and second columns only. Combine this with the 'streak' strategy as explained above, for best results. Give it a shot, and see how it goes.

http://www.playhard.co.uk/winning-roulette-system.php
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« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2012, 12:56:58 PM »

Probability is why the "Win Line" system is there, to defeat it. The mathematics in such a system defeats the house edge safely and easily.

Unless the mathematics are incorrect....

Just read this will ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette
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« Reply #163 on: April 27, 2012, 01:00:28 PM »

Unless the mathematics are incorrect....


What makes you think that?
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« Reply #164 on: April 27, 2012, 01:56:06 PM »

Jon. You can't change the 97.3% expected payout. So any system you use it'll always come down to negative expectations.

Sure you can make short term wins like using the martingale system or making single bet of 3500$ to win 100$ with 94.6% chance of winning(totally insane) but the fundamentals will stay. You can't win.
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« Reply #165 on: April 27, 2012, 02:06:38 PM »

Jon. You can't change the 97.3% expected payout. So any system you use it'll always come down to negative expectations.

Sure you can make short term wins like using the martingale system or making single bet of 3500$ to win 100$ with 94.6% chance of winning(totally insane) but the fundamentals will stay. You can't win.

Obviously you've been suckered by the casinos into thinking that. The house edge is why you need brains to beat the system.
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« Reply #166 on: April 27, 2012, 02:51:37 PM »

Well, I guess I'll bite and feed the troll...

There's your problem: your premise is flawed. There's no "code" and no "system" because roulette is a game of chance. Playing more to "recoup your losses" will only serve one purpose: to prove you're stupid enough to go lose more money.

The only advice that's worth giving you -- although I doubt you'll take it -- is to stop gambling away money you obviously can't afford to lose.


I would point out that it's called gambling, and that should really answer your question. Although if I wanted to be super-accurate I could say that the answer depends on what "to lose" means in this context.

Frankly, it should be fairly obvious that in general the answer is "no of course it's not true!" But perhaps that's the mathematician in me speaking.

As for systems: no system out there can guarantee wins. Not even that retarded "double the bet whenever you lose" system that everyone seems to think will help them break the bank. Let me be very clear: that system could work in theory and then only if you had an infinite stack of chips. Alas, it doesn't work well in practice and not just because your stack of chips is finite but also because of table limits. The bottom line is that it's called gambling for a reason...

bingo. in first year uni as an engineering maths assignment we had to analyse all the games at the casino for odds. Blackjack came out on top at around 43% if i remember correctly.

pokie machines are the worst, as they are set to pay or not to, on top of the randomness..depending on the state's legislation.
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« Reply #167 on: April 27, 2012, 02:54:21 PM »

Obviously you've been suckered by the casinos into thinking that. The house edge is why you need brains to beat the system.

lol. u r one of the morons casinos rely on to keep them making guaranteed profits.

they firstly guarantee it by having no chance to lose, then they further guarantee it by dangling the carrot of temptation- that is, short term wins as a possibility.

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« Reply #168 on: April 27, 2012, 02:57:59 PM »

"pokie machines are the worst, as they are set to pay or not to, on top of the randomness..depending on the state's legislation."

That's OK, I only play Gumby machines.
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« Reply #169 on: April 27, 2012, 03:49:42 PM »

lol. u r one of the morons casinos rely on to keep them making guaranteed profits.

they firstly guarantee it by having no chance to lose, then they further guarantee it by dangling the carrot of temptation- that is, short term wins as a possibility.



I see you're one of the imbeciles who think winning's impossible. Your thinking is so childish it's laughable. I'm into high-powered casino schemes, not foolish child's play from ignorant kids. Casinos DO lose cash, a lot of it, but they win more than they lose, so they make profits. It' s all about expanding that 'losing' part of theirs so you, the patron, can win all the time. I've tapped the brains of a maths genius to deliver a foolproof strategy, you simpleton.
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« Reply #170 on: April 27, 2012, 03:52:03 PM »

bingo. in first year uni as an engineering maths assignment we had to analyse all the games at the casino for odds. Blackjack came out on top at around 43% if i remember correctly.

pokie machines are the worst, as they are set to pay or not to, on top of the randomness..depending on the state's legislation.


You must possess the wits of a llama indeed; I'm talking about roulette here. Don't tell me even your puny brain can't come up with something studying the roulette board and the numbers that come up.
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« Reply #171 on: April 27, 2012, 04:02:19 PM »

Jon enough talk already, all these system's, go out and use your real cash on these systems you so believe in and report back on the results.

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« Reply #172 on: April 27, 2012, 04:04:11 PM »

Obviously you've been suckered by the casinos into thinking that. The house edge is why you need brains to beat the system.

I know I can't change your point of view. Truth is however you can't mathematically explain a system that would turn profit because there is none. As been said the game is rigged from the get go.

I hope you won't lose any more money. All the best!



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« Reply #173 on: April 27, 2012, 04:05:16 PM »

Jon enough talk already, all these system's, go out and use your real cash on these systems you so believe in and report back on the results.



Yes yes, I'm eager for the cash too! Why don't all of you try out the systems I've mentioned as well, with small stakes?
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« Reply #174 on: April 27, 2012, 04:10:03 PM »

I know I can't change your point of view. Truth is however you can't mathematically explain a system that would turn profit because there is none. As been said the game is rigged from the get go.

I hope you won't lose any more money. All the best!





Ah, that's why it takes a mathematics genius to defeat a game that has been rigged from the get go as you say. You see, roulette is not a game wherein you have NO CHANCE to win, so any winning system exploits all the chances you DO have! For example, you've got a virtual 1 in 2 shot of winning if you go with either Red or Black, and 2 in 3 shots of winning if you pick any 2 of 3 columns. I hope this explains something, at least, to you. Thank you too for your good wishes.
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