Weird biceps pain

[doriancutlerman]

Gents,

In certain positions, I feel a searing sensation in my right biceps, inner head, about two inches shy of the insertion point in the elbow.

I can't reproduce the pain accurately.  That is, I can move my arm all around, but it doesn't hurt in the same position twice ...

Well, that's not quite right:  my fat ass is seated in my computer chair.  I dropped something on the floor, just beside my right foot.  Without bending tons at the waist, if I reach for this item dildo gay porn DVD buttplug (just to get that nonsense out of the way ... I figure this subforum runs with all of the homo jokes, too), I feel the aforesaid pain.  It almost feels like my biceps is TEARING.  Yeow.

On the other hand, there's no discoloration.  I can flex my biceps in various positions and it looks and feels normal.  Front double-biceps?  BAM.  Markus Ruehl would be green with envy ... hahahaha, yeah, right

Perhaps strangest of all, due to taking care of my insane grandfather, I've consistently missed back and bis day for a couple of weeks now.  I realize heavy chest and shoulder presses stress the bicipital tendon, but beyond that ... *shrugs shoulders*  I'm an editor and writer, guys.  Anatomy isn't my strong point.

Thanks for any reasonable feedback. 

P.S. -- FWIW, yes, I've been "on" for a few months.  Nothing really too crazy, seriously.  Test, EQ, brief run of Dbol at the beginning, now starting third week of tren ace.  I have made extensive strength gains but they've been rather conservative on a week-to-week basis; it's not as if I've gone hog-wild and started throwing 20 lbs. on my inclines every week.

[doriancutlerman]

?  Anybody?

[chaos]

Maybe you overextended it and you have a little strain. Give it some time and maybe ice it a bit.

[Montague]

?  Anybody?

Do you remember what you were doing when you first noticed it?
How long has it been bothering you?

[jpm101]

If feeling the pain when the arm/bicep is outstretched, it may be a beginning of a rupture/tear or even nerve damage to the area. Not just the muscle but the tendon/ligament. If hanging from a chinning bar, cable pulls, any type of rows, etc, the feeling/tear should be quite noticeable, because the muscle is being pulled/stretched away from the position of the joint.

If it was a major tear (not the slight beginning of one) there would be the darker skin tone, as with broken blood vessels under the skin. A complete tear, the bicep would be rolled up towards the upper inserts, with the skin looking pretty ugly..

This might sound dumb, but do you get that feeling when doing standard curls, either BB or DB, I wonder. You had not mentioned that response to any arm exercise.

Ice is suggested for holding down swelling to/on an area. While heat is suggest for bring a steady new flow of blood into an injured area. Blood also carries healing elements to the region.  Even too much ice or heat may cause more damage than good, in the long run. Even a professional sports massage may help with any muscle/tendon/ligament. All depending on the degree of  potential injury.

If not seeking medical treatment, waiting perhaps to see how thing go, than keep the area warm at all times. Even away from the gym, giving the area a chance to begin to heal within. Let common sense rule, and try not doing any extensive pulling movement in workouts (including direct bicep work, which is a pulling movement) , at least for a couple to three weeks at the most. Slight tears have a habit of repairing and healing themselves with a good dose of time and rest.

Just to note: some drugs can affect the muscle inserts, mainly the biceps, triceps, pecs and sometimes the hams. Even in smaller measures. Any drug does not always work the same for everyone. Good Luck.

[doriancutlerman]

I appreciate all of the feedback.  JPM -- your reputation precedes you   Same said for Chaos.  And I appreciate your question, Montague.  Visit my area near Charlotte, NC and I owe each of you steak dinners

I can't remember doing anything that caused the pain.  As noted, it's been while since I trained biceps and back directly (upwards of two weeks).  I've not done any form of deadlift in that time either.  I've managed to train pecs/delts/tris hard once weekly and I've made time for break-in sessions for abs and legs here and there but, as noted, a lot of my schedule has to do with how normal/not my paternal grandparents are on a daily basis.

I've not had the opportunity to hang from a chinning bar yet, but I've stretched my right biceps hard, including in a simulated "hang," and felt no pain.  A couple of days ago, I also picked up and curled a DB at home; while somewhat heavy, I didn't rush the positive and, after several reps, didn't feel any pain. 

I've only felt any kind of pain maybe two or three times today.  About the only constant is that, when my biceps does feel like it's tearing (or, at least, it feels very hot, like the area has a local fever! ), it lasts perhaps .5 seconds whilst I lean over and quickly reach out with my right arm. 

Strangely enough, if I try to duplicate the pain, I can't :|

I know that's about as articulate as a retarded artichoke.  The best way I can describe it is to say that, if I went bowling, my right-handed self would probably feel the burning/tearing sensation at least once or twice before the night was over.

One thing I should emphasize is the intermittent nature of the pain.  It hurts, sure enough -- but only for about a half-second at a time and, apart from bending over and reaching for things, it does not register.

Weird, nay?

[chaos]

Maybe what you're experiencing is a shoulder issue and not a bicep one? When you lean and extend your arm like that you are probably rolling your shoulder forward. Any issues overhead pressing? Or bench pressing?

I get a weird twinge in my left trap while doing any kind of heavy overhead pressing, just kinda got used to it.

[jpm101]

Weird, but perhaps it may be a pinched nerve. Reason the suggestion was made to have a deep massage to the whole area, including the traps, neck and spine.. Though I'm not sure why the tearing feeling, unless there is a tightness which might be confused with a tear, due to nerve impulse displacement.

Chaos getting that twinge in the trap area may also hint of nerve displacement or interference with the nerve impulses. Most sports minded people get massages treatment fairly often. Chiropractor and acupuncture sessions can also help greatly. The main channel for the CNS is the spine, which most people forget about, until problems develop. The neck and traps become prime area that can block normal nerve function to the upper body. Good Luck.

[chaos]

Yeah my trap has twitched for a few years now......been meaning to get one of them deep massages.

[Obvious Gimmick]

yeah, some form on tendonitis. happens to me sometimes too. stop wanking (or at least use the other arm) for a bit and ice it, youll be fine

[Montague]

In certain positions, I feel a searing sensation in my right biceps, inner head, about two inches shy of the insertion point in the elbow.

The location of your pain discourages me from considering the likelihood of a shoulder problem. (As a side: many trainers mistake bicypital tendonitis for "shoulder pain" due to location of the symptoms.)

Also - and, this is not my area of expertise; perhaps Chaos or JPM would know better - I believe that most biceps ruptures occur in the tendons at the bone attachment site. Both bicypital heads insert below the elbow on the bones of the forearm. If you're feeling pain above the elbow, I don't know how likely it is that you have a torn muscle. Perhaps some type of sprain is more likely.

Finally, I don't consider two weeks to be all that long to have a pain - even from something minor. I've often had simple aches last longer than that. For what it's worth (and, it's merely my opinion), I wouldn't get too worried just yet.

[doriancutlerman]

Montague, Airosol, Chaos, JPM,

I just wanted to thank you gentlemen for your feedback.  Things seem to be a-OK. 

[Montague]

Montague, Airosol, Chaos, JPM,

I just wanted to thank you gentlemen for your feedback.  Things seem to be a-OK. 

Awesome!
Thanks for the update!!