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Author Topic: Nolvadex as a "natural" test booster  (Read 11199 times)
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« on: May 06, 2012, 03:23:25 AM »

I'm interested on how it compares to OTC test boosters such as DAA, tribulus etc.

Is there any benefit on taking 10-20mg/day of nolva to increase natural test?

I'm not talking about PCT, just as a supplement to increase natty test?

Will there be estrogen rebound if you stop using it?

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 03:28:59 AM »

I think it's a great product! I use it after I run HCG,real nolva and clomid then I run nolvadex,DHEA and trib.take 3 or 4 caps before bed and it will work. made with great raws knellers hookup on raws is always some of the best great product-IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 03:40:32 AM »

I think it's a great product! I use it after I run HCG,real nolva and clomid then I run nolvadex,DHEA and trib.take 3 or 4 caps before bed and it will work. made with great raws knellers hookup on raws is always some of the best great product-IMO.
Thanks, but I'm talking about it as a test booster, not post cycle. Do you have experience with it just as test booster? Sorry if its a stupid question.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 03:52:53 AM »

Thanks, but I'm talking about it as a test booster, not post cycle. Do you have experience with it just as test booster? Sorry if its a stupid question.

Yes I use it as a Test booster I use it as one of my off-cycle products. same with dhea and trib and vitargo(waxy starch maize) creatine mix. It is a great product I don't know what else to say ! Take 3-4 capsules a night and you will notice a increase in livido within a week or two. just keep taking it of a few months. It is made with great raws and is a great product. I use it and I think it is worth the cash. other good supps are DHEA  and a high grade trib product along with a good creatine such as vitargo or EAS phosphagen, and use some VPX redline it is a great OTC fat burner! The best OTC fat burner IMO.I use all those products after my PCT
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 05:04:49 AM »

Yes I use it as a Test booster I use it as one of my off-cycle products. same with dhea and trib and vitargo(waxy starch maize) creatine mix. It is a great product I don't know what else to say ! Take 3-4 capsules a night and you will notice a increase in livido within a week or two. just keep taking it of a few months. It is made with great raws and is a great product. I use it and I think it is worth the cash. other good supps are DHEA  and a high grade trib product along with a good creatine such as vitargo or EAS phosphagen, and use some VPX redline it is a great OTC fat burner! The best OTC fat burner IMO.I use all those products after my PCT
What dosage do you take of the Nolvadex for a good test increase?
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 05:15:23 AM »

What dosage do you take of the Nolvadex for a good test increase?

I was taking 3 caps before bed for a few weeks and then 4 caps before bed for a few weeks. just follow the instructions on the bottle. a good dose is 3 tabs before bed. I noticed a def libido increase. and with the other supplements involved I also stayed strong without having to bridge with gear. Vitargo def worked for me as does EAS Phosphagen and I love DHEA.I have used novedex solo after a PCT and it worked great my libido was great and I felt good on novexdex-xt
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 06:24:56 AM »

I was taking 3 caps before bed for a few weeks and then 4 caps before bed for a few weeks. just follow the instructions on the bottle. a good dose is 3 tabs before bed. I noticed a def libido increase. and with the other supplements involved I also stayed strong without having to bridge with gear. Vitargo def worked for me as does EAS Phosphagen and I love DHEA.I have used novedex solo after a PCT and it worked great my libido was great and I felt good on novexdex-xt
I think you are confusing Nolvadex with Gaspari Novadex.

I'm talkin about Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) as a test booster?
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 07:31:57 AM »

Use clomid instead.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 07:55:51 AM »

Use clomid instead.
Do you have experience with this?
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 08:54:37 AM »

IMO Nolva doesn't do that much for stimulation of test production. Clomid is far better (I feel it within days, ball sensitivity included)
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 08:56:21 AM »

What dosage of clomid would you suggest??
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 09:39:35 AM »

I'm interested on how it compares to OTC test boosters such as DAA, tribulus etc.

Is there any benefit on taking 10-20mg/day of nolva to increase natural test?

I'm not talking about PCT, just as a supplement to increase natty test?

Will there be estrogen rebound if you stop using it?

Thanks!

Use clomid... alot of actual hypogonadism specialist actually try putting patiens on clomid first, because it will keep your balls in tact, and increase your test as well.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 10:14:37 AM »

Yeah I did a bit of research and found this link:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00075.x/abstract

Sounds awesome because I had a below "normal" count of testosterone and this gives me real hope!

Any long term side effects?
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2012, 01:53:15 PM »

for what it's worth, my ex-urologist originally wanted to treat me with clomid instead of test for lowish test level. He said it has been shown in some to raise natural test levels. However, if you truly have low test level why not get on trt?
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 05:35:45 PM »

Yeah I did a bit of research and found this link:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00075.x/abstract

Sounds awesome because I had a below "normal" count of testosterone and this gives me real hope!

Any long term side effects?

any reason you dont get on TRT and use testosterone instead of beating around the bush? i think if you are SMART, and not GREEDY, and can actually stick to low trt doses and not get  tempted to up the doseage, in that case, TRT doses of testosterone IMO is your safest bet. At low doses, you dont need to worry about side effects ( yeah you might get oily skin and a lil hair, but makes your more manly lol)

if you want to PM me, i can send you my lab work.. my test was at 87... then i got started on 150mg/week test E, and after 6 weeks my test levels were 1090 or something... so in your case, you might only need 125mg week.


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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2012, 07:30:36 PM »

I think you are confusing Nolvadex with Gaspari Novadex.

I'm talkin about Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) as a test booster?

My bad-lol. I don't know why you would want to use nolva so I assumed you meant nolvadex. I think DHEA is very underestimated it can raise your natural Test level nicely along with some clomid. use clomid 50mg daily for 3-4 weeks and use DHEA for 3 months and your Nat Test level will be way above average.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2012, 10:47:11 PM »

any reason you dont get on TRT and use testosterone instead of beating around the bush? i think if you are SMART, and not GREEDY, and can actually stick to low trt doses and not get  tempted to up the doseage, in that case, TRT doses of testosterone IMO is your safest bet. At low doses, you dont need to worry about side effects ( yeah you might get oily skin and a lil hair, but makes your more manly lol)

if you want to PM me, i can send you my lab work.. my test was at 87... then i got started on 150mg/week test E, and after 6 weeks my test levels were 1090 or something... so in your case, you might only need 125mg week.


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They main thing is I don't want to mess with my fertility. Exogenous test messes with it and our docs over here are so full of shit, they won't even prescribe TRT to me. So Clomid sounds like a better and "safer" option for me at this point with lesser hassle and it may even improve fertility.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2012, 02:00:41 AM »

They main thing is I don't want to mess with my fertility. Exogenous test messes with it and our docs over here are so full of shit, they won't even prescribe TRT to me. So Clomid sounds like a better and "safer" option for me at this point with lesser hassle and it may even improve fertility.

go with the clomid and try a little DHEA.
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2012, 04:58:58 AM »

They main thing is I don't want to mess with my fertility. Exogenous test messes with it and our docs over here are so full of shit, they won't even prescribe TRT to me. So Clomid sounds like a better and "safer" option for me at this point with lesser hassle and it may even improve fertility.

yeah if fertility is a concern, then stick to clomid
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2012, 05:49:00 AM »

Do you have experience with this?

Yes. I used nolva as treatment to gynecomastia for several protocols, like 10mg a day for 3 months or 20mg for a month or two.

When i use clomid or tribulus or even zma i have constant boners and occasioally light acne i the back. Never had that kind of symptoms with nolva. That's why i strongly believe that it is a mediocre substance to boost test levels. Clomid on the other and is very powerfull even at half a pill a day.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2012, 07:35:06 AM »

Yes. I used nolva as treatment to gynecomastia for several protocols, like 10mg a day for 3 months or 20mg for a month or two.

When i use clomid or tribulus or even zma i have constant boners and occasioally light acne i the back. Never had that kind of symptoms with nolva. That's why i strongly believe that it is a mediocre substance to boost test levels. Clomid on the other and is very powerfull even at half a pill a day.

Hope this helps.
Thanks!
Yes it helps a whole lot! Thanks for the good answer. I'm gonna give clomid a shot and see how it goes! Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2012, 10:24:11 AM »

Nolva will increase your testosterone. However, it will also increase your estrogen. I think an AI, especially one like aromasin (aka exemestane) is a better bet, since it will increase your natural testosterone production by decreasing your estrogen.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2012, 12:02:47 PM »

Nolva will increase your testosterone. However, it will also increase your estrogen. I think an AI, especially one like aromasin (aka exemestane) is a better bet, since it will increase your natural testosterone production by decreasing your estrogen.

Besides liver toxicity aromasin is EXTREMELY expensive in comparison with nolva.

I am talking about 150 for a month supply of aromasin instead of 8 for dufine or 17 for the nolva for a month supply. Even anastrozol is cheaper. But if the price were right i would give it a shot Wink!
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2012, 02:22:58 PM »

Do you have experience with this?

clomid is a test booster???
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2012, 03:39:39 PM »

clomid is a test booster???

short answer, yes
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