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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 06:51:25 PM »
Romney to Win Undecideds (Romney Creaming Obama 51-42 in Nationwide Poll)
The Hill ^ | Tuesday, May 15, 2012 | Dick Morris
Posted on May 16, 2012 8:35:58 PM EDT by kristinn

From May 5-11, 2012, I conducted a survey of 6,000 likely voters. On such a mammoth sample, the margin of error is less than 1 percent. I found that Romney has amassed a sizable lead over Obama of 51-42, far in excess of what published polling and surveys of registered — as opposed to likely — voters are indicating.

If Romney were to win 51 percent of the vote, the election would, of course, be very close. But if he could hold Obama to 42 percent, it would be a landslide. So the obvious question is how Romney should go about winning the voters in between.

To answer this question, I drilled down in my sample to these undecided voters, none of whom voted for Romney in the survey. I added to their ranks those who voted for Obama but indicated that they only “somewhat” approved of his performance in office. This left me with a sample of 1,500 likely voters who are in play. The data in this column reflects their views. If Romney can win a quarter or a third of their votes, he will win by a landslide margin of 10 points.

On the economy, 46 percent of these swing voters do not believe that there is any recovery. Twenty-three percent say the economy is the same as when Obama took office and an additional 23 percent say it is worse. Thirty-nine percent say the jobs situation has not improved. Twenty-five percent say it is the same and 14 percent say it is worse. And 37 percent agree with the statement that “if we look around, there isn’t real evidence that we are actually making progress.”

Specifically, swing voters do not believe that the unemployment rate drop Obama heralds is real.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 08:56:29 PM »
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 09:04:52 PM »
Wisconsin is now in play and has become a true tossup state.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/16/warning-signs-in-wisconsin-for-obama/tab/comments/

Skip to the comments. You will find some dude who says his sister is an uber liberal who is working in the effort to recall Scott Walker. She beleives Walker will win and is very worried about November.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 09:06:55 PM »
Wisconsin is now in play and has become a true tossup state.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/16/warning-signs-in-wisconsin-for-obama/tab/comments/

Skip to the comments. You will find some dude who says his sister is an uber liberal who is working in the effort to recall Scott Walker. She beleives Walker will win and is very worried about November.

MM2k.  The issue is not only obama!   It's holder, kagan, Hillary, Chu, lahood, Biden, Perez, Lisa Jackson, etc.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 09:27:05 PM »
Whenever you have momentum swings like this, you always want to be careful to not get too excited, because usually in politics there are ups and downs. But this momentum swing feels different. Obama, the Democrats, and thier incompetence are sorta like this big pink elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. The independents didnt want to believe he was a failure (particularly the ones who voted for him). Now, the indpendents have gotten rid of thier denial and are finally talking about the big elephant in the room, and are flat out rejecting Obama. That is what we are both seeing and feeling in the polls the past 2 or 3 weeks.
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2012, 03:25:19 AM »
New Wisconsin poll: Walker by six among likely voters, Romney tied with Obama at 46
Hotair ^ | 05/16/2012 | AllahPundit
Posted on May 16, 2012 5:22:05 PM EDT by SeekAndFind

The last Marquette poll, which had Walker leading Barrett by one thin point, made me want to drink whiskey in the daytime. This one makes me want to drink champagne. Yesterday's dKos/PPP poll had nearly identical numbers so it's safe to say this really is the state of the race in Wisconsin at this moment.

I can’t believe I'm asking this, but are we headed for a Scott Walker landslide?

Republicans are more likely to say they are “absolutely certain” to vote on June 5, at 91 percent, than are Democrats and independents, both at 83 percent. In other areas of participation, Republicans also have an advantage. Sixty-two percent of Republicans say that they have tried to persuade someone to vote for or against a candidate, compared to 54 percent among Democrats and 48 percent among independents ...

Another indication of Republican mobilization is a shift in the balance of Republican and Democratic partisanship over the past several months among all registered voters. In January there were two percentage points more Democrats than Republicans in the poll. That rose to eight points in February but has since declined to six points in March, three points in April and now just one point in May. When independents are asked if they feel closer to a party, the balance tips to a one-point Republican advantage in the May data. Such changes might be due to random variation from sample to sample, as the month-to-month changes are not large. However, polling by the Democratic polling firm, Public Policy Polling, finds a similar trend…

Collective bargaining continues to divide the electorate by single digits. Voters prefer to keep the current collective bargaining law rather than return to what it was prior to last year, by a 50-43 percentage point margin. Restoring collective bargaining is supported by 78 percent of Democrats and opposed by 81 percent of Republicans. Among independents, 53 percent want to keep the current law while 38 percent want to return to the previous law.

Last month Walker’s approval rating was 47/51. This month it’s 50/46. Some of that’s due to the good news on jobs in his first year in office and some of it’s surely due to Walker tapping his enormous war chest for the recall effort. But judging from that amazing split among indies on the collective bargaining law, Walker’s message that it’s been a net plus for the state has apparently penetrated. Back when the Madison protests were raging, I think big labor’s dream was to turn the Walker recall election into a referendum on public-employee unions. Then they got some unwelcome facts about the new law and clammed up about it, but it looks like they’re getting their referendum anyway. Hope they enjoy the results.

I don’t know what to make of that trend towards the GOP among the Wisconsin electorate generally, though. Two possibilities. One: Could be that the uptick in Republican identification is being driven partly by the presidential primaries that began in January and rolled on until April. Some of the anti-Obama rhetoric from Romney, Santorum, Gingrich et al. may have nudged fencesitters into the Republican column while O’s sat mostly silent on the sidelines. Two: Note that Democratic identification surged in February, shortly after Democrats announced they had the signatures needed to force a recall election. Maybe that woke up tepid Republicans and fencesitters to the possibility that Walker really might be removed and that labor would treat that as an epochal victory proving the righteousness of PEUs, resulting in a sustained pro-GOP backlash. Or, maybe this is all just the product of standard political forces at work. Walker’s spent a bunch of money to make his case and the national economy under The One continues to reek, so undecideds are reacting predictably. No wonder the DNC has apparently thrown in the towel.

All Romney needs to do now is figure out how to keep that GOP enthusiasm going and he can force O to spend a bunch of money on a state the Democrats never expected they’d need to protect. Speaking of which, Mitt’s favorable rating is now up to 40/44 from 33/46 in April, which was to be expected as hard feelings among Santorum and Gingrich fans after the bitter GOP primary start to soften. Obama will spend the next six months trying to knock it back down again. Quick, media — more stories about bullying that happened 50 years ago, stat.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 05:53:55 AM »
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 06:57:11 AM »
Everything will be great when this happens.. look at the bang up job they are doing in the house.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 07:04:55 AM »
Everything will be great when this happens.. look at the bang up job they are doing in the house.

The memory capacity of the members on this board is so fucked up

They have already forgot what 8 years of GOP control got us

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2012, 07:11:26 AM »
Everything will be great when this happens.. look at the bang up job they are doing in the house.

True - they passed three budgets and those thugs obama and reid are sitting on their asses. 


Can't wait till november comes and you leftist drones are completely refudiated on your failed ideaology  . 

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2012, 07:14:06 AM »
The memory capacity of the members on this board is so fucked up

They have already forgot what 8 years of GOP control got us

Yeah, those 8 years were horrible. Over 40 consecutive months of job growth, lower UE, lower amount of people in welfare, lower deficit, lower monthly expenses by the government, lower gas prices.

Dems had control for 3 years, Obama has been in office for 1 term, and every economic indicator is worse.

Yes, you are right. You have forgotten that the economy is worse under Obama. EVERYTHING IS WORSE UNDER THE DEMOCRATS.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2012, 07:20:49 AM »
Yeah, those 8 years were horrible. Over 40 consecutive months of job growth, lower UE, lower amount of people in welfare, lower deficit, lower monthly expenses by the government, lower gas prices.

Dems had control for 3 years, Obama has been in office for 1 term, and every economic indicator is worse.

Yes, you are right. You have forgotten that the economy is worse under Obama. EVERYTHING IS WORSE UNDER THE DEMOCRATS.

Who gives a shit? The economy is shit and its gonna continue whoever the president is. Do you think Romney has a magic Wand to fix the economy?

Atleast Obama is trying to enable Health care for everybody and he is killing AQ a lot more effective than the repub who got us into Iraq with lots of dead soldiers being the prize.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2012, 07:23:48 AM »
Who gives a shit? The economy is shit and its gonna continue whoever the president is. Do you think Romney has a magic Wand to fix the economy?

Atleast Obama is trying to enable Health care for everybody and he is killing AQ a lot more effective than the repub who got us into Iraq with lots of dead soldiers being the prize.




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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2012, 07:28:44 AM »
True - they passed three budgets and those thugs obama and reid are sitting on their asses. 


Can't wait till november comes and you leftist drones are completely refudiated on your failed ideaology  . 

Wait wait..i said that in jest... You really think the Republicans are doing a great job over here...like in real life?

Your answer will be very telling.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2012, 07:31:30 AM »
Wait wait..i said that in jest... You really think the Republicans are doing a great job over here...like in real life?

Your answer will be very telling.


Not really since they have not issued contempt of congress against holder and shut the govt down so gaybama cant spend any more, but they have at least stopped the crazy shit. 


They passed repeal of NaziCare, 3 budgets, etc. 


Not perfect, but way better than do nothings like Gaybama and Reid

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2012, 12:36:48 PM »
What Scott Walker’s Victory Signals


Peter Wehner | @Peter_Wehner 06.06.2012 - 10:40 AM




Governor Scott Walker’s victory last night – his seven-point win against Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett was by a greater margin than in 2010 – will have profound national ramifications. It was a historic defeat for organized labor, and most especially public sector unions. They chose Wisconsin as the ground on which they would make their stand and make an example out of Walker. Instead, they were decimated. In addition, Walker instantly becomes a dominant political player in the GOP, as well as a model to other reform-minded governors. The loss will also drive a wedge between President Obama and organized labor, which cannot be pleased at the indifference Obama showed toward this race. (Tom Barrett was one of Obama’s earliest supporters in 2007.) The president wasn’t there when organized labor needed him. They are likely to return the favor in November.
 
When combined with the dismal jobs report on Friday, the news Monday that new orders for U.S. factory goods fell in April for the third time in four months, and the downward revision of economic growth in the first quarter (to 1.9 percent) – all of which signal that our weak economy is growing still weaker – Democrats must feel as though the walls are beginning to crash down around them.
 


The epic 2010 mid-term election was foreshadowed by three races in particular – the victories by Bob McDonnell in Virginia and Chris Christie in New Jersey in November 2009 and Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts in January 2010. They were clear signals of what awaited Democrats in November 2010.
 
Scott Walker’s crushing win in Wisconsin – which occurred only 154 days before the presidential election — has a similar feel to it. Wisconsin ain’t Utah; it is the home of Robert La Follette and a state with a strong progressive tradition. Barack Obama carried Wisconsin by 14 points in 2008 and it hasn’t gone Republican since 1984. For Governor Walker to win by the margin he did, based on the agenda he’s enacted, is a sign that the political currents in America strongly favor conservatism and the GOP. Even in Wisconsin.
 
Intelligent Democrats know that. Which is why panic is spreading throughout their ranks this morning. They see another huge wave forming and growing. And right now, they have no idea how to avoid it.
 

Topics: Democrats, GOP, Obama, Scott Walker, Tom Barrett, Wisconsin recall election



http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/06/06/what-scott-walker-victory-signals



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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2012, 01:07:05 PM »
Whenever you have momentum swings like this, you always want to be careful to not get too excited, because usually in politics there are ups and downs. But this momentum swing feels different. Obama, the Democrats, and thier incompetence are sorta like this big pink elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. The independents didnt want to believe he was a failure (particularly the ones who voted for him). Now, the indpendents have gotten rid of thier denial and are finally talking about the big elephant in the room, and are flat out rejecting Obama. That is what we are both seeing and feeling in the polls the past 2 or 3 weeks.

pendulum effect.  every 4 or 6 years, the middle 20% change how they feel.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2012, 01:59:35 PM »
Obama, Democrats Face Cruel June

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WASHINGTON — Just one week old, June already is proving a cruel month for President Barack Obama and the Democrats – and it could get a lot worse.

The political blows from Tuesday's bitter loss in Wisconsin's gubernatorial recall and from last week's abysmal unemployment numbers, bad as they were, could multiply before the month is out.

The Supreme Court will pass judgment shortly on the president's signature legislative achievement – the 2010 law overhauling the nation's health care system – and also will decide on his administration's challenge to Arizona's tough immigration law. If Chief Justice John Roberts and the court strike down all or part of the health care law, it could demoralize Democrats who invested more than a year – and quite a few political careers – to secure the bill's passage.

And in Arizona, aside from the big immigration case, the Democrats are fighting to hold onto the House seat of Gabrielle Giffords, who resigned in January to focus on recovering from her gunshot wound. In next Tuesday's special election, former Giffords aide Ron Barber is locked in a close race with Republican Jesse Kelly, who lost to her in 2010 by just 4,156 votes.

Facing an election-year summer fraught with political peril, the Democrats are struggling to revive supporters' spirits and counteract developments that could energize Republicans and solidify public opinion that the country is on the wrong track and in need of new leadership.

In a video pep talk to supporters this week, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina acknowledged the challenge. "We need to stay focused, work hard and ignore the ups and downs," he said.

Even before the votes were counted in Republican Gov. Scott Walker's win over Democrat Tom Barrett Tuesday night, there was hand-wringing and second-guessing among Democrats on Capitol Hill.

_ The jobs numbers have them worried that they'll be running on a weak economy, with the White House – and them – getting the blame.

_ Wisconsin's implications for the general election and for organized labor in general have some asking why Obama didn't get more involved than an 11th-hour tweet.




_ The looming Supreme Court decision on the health care law has some Democrats insisting the White House and the party did a terrible job selling the overhaul to the American people.

There's no shortage of Democratic advice on how Obama should frame the message for voters in the next five months.

In Wisconsin, millions of dollars spent on Walker's behalf trumped labor's get-out-the-vote effort in a swing state that suddenly moves up on the battleground list in the presidential race. Republicans also have set their sights on the seat of retiring Wisconsin Sen. Herb Kohl in a race that probably will pit Democratic Rep. Tammy Baldwin against the winner of the Aug. 14 GOP primary. Tommy Thompson, a former governor who was secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services under President George W. Bush, faces former Rep. Mark Neumann, state Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald and millionaire hedge fund manager Eric Hovde.

Hours before Walker's win, Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., said Obama should have gone to Wisconsin to help Barrett.

"I don't understand what he stood to lose in Wisconsin. I can't make that make sense," Hastings said in an interview. He wondered if Obama had been overly worried about alienating the "3 or 4 percent Republicans that may have voted for him the last time," and added, "Nobody, nobody knows what so-called independents are going to do." In 2008, Obama won the state, 56-42 percent.

Labor is a core Democratic constituency, and Hastings fears that Walker's win will provide cover for efforts to undermine collective bargaining rights for unions.

On Wednesday, House Republicans emerging from their weekly closed-door meeting said the mood was clearly upbeat after the Wisconsin win and the task ahead will be keeping high political expectations in check.

Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, cast the message in economic terms and oft-repeated GOP arguments.

"The American people have had it with big government, high taxes and a regulatory system that knows no bounds, and they want elected officials to take control of the situation so the American job creators can go back to doing what they do best, creating jobs," Boehner told reporters.

The economy trumps all issues, and the worse-than-expected 69,000 jobs created in May and an uptick in the unemployment rate to 8.2 percent worry Democrats.

"That's a bad number so there's concern," said Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vt. "We can defend the Obama record. We've created jobs. The legacy of the Bush collapse is real. But what affects the mood, traditionally it's been the economy as perceived by voters about six months out. .... All of us are obviously hoping for better job numbers."

Welch said if the public perception is of an economy getting better, as it was until May, "then it's much more favorable to the election being a choice between Obama and Romney. My view, Obama wins that easily. If it becomes just a referendum on Obama, i.e., the economy, then we're playing more defense than we want to."

The next batch of jobs numbers comes out July 6.

The upcoming Supreme Court decision on health care is a painful reminder to Democrats that Americans favor some elements of the massive law aimed at extending medical insurance to more than 30 million Americans but the far-reaching overhaul has never gained broad approval.

"I'm amazed at the high negatives," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif. "Republicans have done a good job demonizing the bill, and evidently we haven't done a good enough job explaining it or people haven't paid enough attention because it's a complicated piece of legislation."

Democrats point to the more popular provisions – the law's banning denial of coverage for people with pre-existing medical conditions, allowing children to stay on their parents' insurance until age 26 and reducing Americans' Medicare prescription drug costs by closing the "donut hole."

The main issue for the court is the constitutionality of the individual insurance requirement. Opponents argue that Congress lacked the authority under the Constitution to force Americans to buy insurance.

If the court strikes down the law, many of the more popular elements are gone, said Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb. Asked if Americans are aware of that, he said, "Probably not, but they will be."

Former Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said the administration and the party's congressional leaders should have focused on a pared-back but bipartisan health care bill with the more popular elements.

"That would have been a game-changer," said Taylor, who lost in the Republican wave in 2010. "Just leave it simple like that, something you could explain to the public. But they missed that opportunity."

Obama's ambitious approach on health care turned the summer of 2009 into a cacophony of angry town hall meetings in which voters confronted lawmakers. In the summer of 2010, Obama struggled with the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Last summer, the president was mired in negotiations with Congress over increasing the nation's borrowing authority that pushed the country to the brink of default and provided fodder to critics who argued that Obama was weak.

Former Rep. Chet Edwards, D-Texas, said Obama and Democrats need to put the economic outlook in context – gone are the recession days of losing 700,000 jobs per month and a nation on the verge of a second Great Depression. The country is moving forward, he said.

He was reminded of something former President Bill Clinton once said: "Sometimes the problem with Democrats is that we don't know the difference between an issue and a message." Edwards said Democrats can't just debate the issue, they need to debate the broad message.

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2012, 08:48:59 AM »
Missouri Sen : McCaskill down to all 3 GOP challengers. Steelman by 12.
 Rasmussen Reports ^

Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 11:20:19 AM by sunmars

Missouri Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill’s three leading Republican challengers all now earn 50% or more of the vote in matchups with her.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Missouri Voters shows former State Treasurer Sarah Steelman with the widest lead. She’s ahead of McCaskill by 12 points, 51% to 39%


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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2012, 10:54:29 AM »
...then poor ole Rush and Sean;
they won't have any reason for their talk shows.
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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2012, 11:04:56 AM »
New Wisconsin poll: Walker by six among likely voters, Romney tied with Obama at 46
Hotair ^ | 05/16/2012 | AllahPundit
Posted on May 16, 2012 5:22:05 PM EDT by SeekAndFind

so 8 days after Barrett became the nominee the polls showed Walker leading by 6 points

less than 30 days after Barrett became the nominee he loses the  election by  7 points

so basically everyone saw this coming (again - almost certainly the reason why Obama didn't show up) but it hasn't stopped right wingers from acting like it equivalent of the US Hockey team beating the USSR in 1980 Olympics

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2012, 11:09:37 AM »
so 8 days after Barrett became the nominee the polls showed Walker leading by 6 points

less than 30 days after Barrett became the nominee he loses the  election by  7 points

so basically everyone saw this coming (again - almost certainly the reason why Obama didn't show up) but it hasn't stopped right wingers from acting like it equivalent of the US Hockey team beating the USSR in 1980 Olympics

LOL.   "Private Sector Doing Fine"

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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2012, 11:26:52 AM »
LOL.   "Private Sector Doing Fine"

who are you quoting?


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Re: The Republican Tidle Wave is coming
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2012, 11:27:46 AM »
who are you quoting?



Obama from his press conference today.   



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