Thinking about my first IGF-1 and Insulin cycle - any advice?

[Xfactormuscle]

I am a fairly advanced bodybuilder (superheavy), never done IGF-1 and/or insulin.

I just got 2 bottles IGF-1 in and I would like to try it out.

I am thinking about doing it in the middle of a regular cycle (with HGH). I d like to use this stuff as last resort as I have never been able to get above 275lbs.

I am currently 260lbs at 6'1, just started a cycle after longer break.

Love to have your input.

Thanks

[Xfactormuscle]

nobody? 

[Psychopath]

40mcg IM or subq, once or if you got the money, twice/day for 40-60days

Slin

Use humalog or humalin-R  with your breakfast and pre/post workout meal window.

I would work my way upto 20-25ius per shot, totalling 40-50iu's/day. Good starting dose is 10ius.


Run this for 6-8wks, then get off slin cuz your sensitivity will be horrible. Get off for 2-3wks and lower carbs to 120-150g/day for that time period to reset insulin sensitivity. Do lots of cardio and cut back on cals a bit.


preferably,IGF-1 and slin would be run together. 

[Xfactormuscle]

thank you.

what's better, IM or subcutaneous?

When do I take the IGF? I was told b4 a workout and the insulin after - correct?

How long will the 2 bottles of IGF-1 last? Paid a stiff price for them.

Plus I was thinking about doing them on the peak of a cycle, kind of as a turbo/hemi to boost the cycle and finally bring me up to 270+ - or should I do it at the beginning? My coach has not much experience with IGF I think it came out after his pro-days.

thanks for answering.

[godeep]

igf-1 is IM always, usually bilaterally into the muscles worked/about to be worked

Make sure you reconstitute with acetic acid and not just bac water

[Xfactormuscle]

The IGF I have (increlex) is premixed.
It says on the instructions that it is to be administered subcutaneously.

Is that different for BB purposes?

[godeep]

Not sure; I have only used/dealt with IGF that had to be reconstituted. Even with those there are differing schools of thought for the "best" way to take it

[Psychopath]

thank you.

what's better, IM or subcutaneous?

When do I take the IGF? I was told b4 a workout and the insulin after - correct?

How long will the 2 bottles of IGF-1 last? Paid a stiff price for them.

Plus I was thinking about doing them on the peak of a cycle, kind of as a turbo/hemi to boost the cycle and finally bring me up to 270+ - or should I do it at the beginning? My coach has not much experience with IGF I think it came out after his pro-days.

thanks for answering.

What does it say on the bottle? i tried googling your brand but couldn't get a proper close up on the bottle.

The bare minimum is 20mcg/day, and since your goal is mass gain, you can inject igf-1 and slin together, or back to back.

If you're tight on igf-1 supply, i'd start a blast first, then progressively increase the dose, then add slin, then add igf-1 at the end to top off your blast as you said.


-AAS
then...
-More AAS
then
-AAS + slin
then
-AAS + Slin + igf-1

[local hero]

20mcg is a teeny teeny dose of igf..... 80 and above is more realistic, still only good for a pump in my experience, altho never tried it with slin, it may be of more benefit

[Xfactormuscle]

am I injecting with insulin syringes into the muscle? That is what I was told.

[flpl88]

Yes use slin pins