Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED

[blacken700]

Perhaps, if you ask for a government-issued clue, some sense might register in your head (though I wouldn't bet on it).

The story's been shot down by multiple sources, multiple times.

But please deluding yourself and encouraging Obama to waste millions on this crap, just to remain tied with Romney. I haven't laughed this hard in months.

i can't argue with you no more ,santa's real,everyting rush and beck say is 100% true,palin is brillant,and they made a boat to carry 2 of every animal  

[240 is Back]

the same people who heard the 4th Cain accuser and still said "He still seems innocent to me...."

are the same ones trying to "debunk" the statements made by romney and his team himself showing he was still with Bain.

So really, soon they'll all get as quiet as they did when Cain admitted paying that woman for 11 years of secrecy

[MCWAY]

i can't argue with you no more ,santa's real,everyting rush and beck say is 100% true,palin is brillant,and they made a boat to carry 2 of every animal 

You could never argue with me in the first place.

Multiple news sources and multiple Bain execs have BACKED Romney's statement. Posting a zillion smiley faces doesn't change that fact, genius. Neither does making pointless statements about Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, or the Ark.

And, considering you get your gibberish from the laughingstock of cable news, you are in no position to criticize anyone, regarding where they get their information.

the same people who heard the 4th Cain accuser and still said "He still seems innocent to me...."

are the same ones trying to "debunk" the statements made by romney and his team himself showing he was still with Bain.

So really, soon they'll all get as quiet as they did when Cain admitted paying that woman for 11 years of secrecy

You mean the same accusers that, two of whom to this day, STILL HAVE YET to say what Cain supposedly did to them (despite being given permission by the company that waived the confidentiality clause)?

Or the blonde, whose rep was about as valid as monopoly money, whose story had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese?

Or that last woman, who GOT SUED IN COURT for libel and slander and LOST, whose friends and associates have absolutely NO recollection of any alleged affair with Cain?

You want to talk about first-class hypocrisy. 240, YOU ARE FULL OF IT!!

YOU are the main one, bleating and whining about people and media not focusing on the economy.

Yet, when the economic news keeps coming and it's getting worse, YOU (and your kneepadder-in-crime, Blacken) COMPLETELY DODGE the economy and generate thread after thread after thread of debunked gibberish like this.

So, spare us your feigned outrage.

No one is trying to debunk these statements. They've been debunked, repeatedly by Romney's former associates and by numerous fact-checking accounts.

Only the kneepadders like you and Blacken keep floating this story, all to deflect from Obama's pathetic record. The saddest part is that all this money is being burned by Team Obama. Yet, he can't pull past Romney to save his life.

[blacken700]

You could never argue with me in the first place.

Multiple news sources and multiple Bain execs have BACKED Romney's statement. Posting a zillion smiley faces doesn't change that fact, genius. Neither does making pointless statements about Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, or the Ark.

And, considering you get your gibberish from the laughingstock of cable news, you are in no position to criticize anyone, regarding where they get their information.

You mean the same accusers that, two of whom to this day, STILL HAVE YET to say what Cain supposedly did to them (despite being given permission by the company that waived the confidentiality clause)?

Or the blonde, whose rep was about as valid as monopoly money, whose story had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese?

Or that last woman, who GOT SUED IN COURT for libel and slander and LOST, whose friends and associates have absolutely NO recollection of any alleged affair with Cain?

You want to talk about first-class hypocrisy. 240, YOU ARE FULL OF IT!!

YOU are the main one, bleating and whining about people and media not focusing on the economy.

Yet, when the economic news keeps coming and it's getting worse, YOU (and your kneepadder-in-crime, Blacken) COMPLETELY DODGE the economy and generate thread after thread after thread of debunked gibberish like this.

So, spare us your feigned outrage.

No one is trying to debunk these statements. They've been debunked, repeatedly by Romney's former associates and by numerous fact-checking accounts.

Only the kneepadders like you and Blacken keep floating this story, all to deflect from Obama's pathetic record. The saddest part is that all this money is being burned by Team Obama. Yet, he can't pull past Romney to save his life.

i can't argue with you no more ,santa's real,everyting rush and beck say is 100% true,palin is brillant,and they made a boat to carry 2 of every animal                       

[Soul Crusher]

i can't argue with you no more ,santa's real,everyting rush and beck say is 100% true,palin is brillant,and they made a boat to carry 2 of every animal                       

Palin is a genius relative to Obama who is the dumbest, most incompetent, illiterate, idiot ever to hold office. 

[MCWAY]

Another reality check for TK members:



Are Obama’s Bain Attacks Getting Traction?



Over the next few days, we will no doubt see news stories trumpeting some poll or other purporting to show that President Obama’s disgraceful attacks on Mitt Romney’s years at Bain Capital have been effective. The problem, of course, is that many polls bounce around in a more or less random manner, so it will be easy to find one or two that look as though Obama is making significant gains. How meaningful they are is another question.

I follow Scott Rasmussen’s polling more closely than others, for three reasons: 1) his track record is as good as anyone’s; 2) he samples only likely voters, which most other pollsters don’t do until the last days of the campaign; and 3) he uses a consistent methodology so that his results don’t bounce around meaninglessly in response to the composition of the respondents on a given day.

So I have watched Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking poll with interest since the latest round of attacks began. So far, Rasmussen’s numbers don’t show that the Bain attacks have had a perceptible impact. As of this morning, Romney leads Obama 46%-44% among likely voters. Here is the history of the head-to-head matchup from January 2012 to the present:

The days since Obama launched his Bain attacks don’t look significantly different from those that preceded. Rasmussen explains how consistent his polling has been in recent weeks:

    Over the past 20 days, the candidates have been within three points of each other every single day. During that stretch, Romney has held the advantage 11 times, Obama has been on top four times, and they were tied on five days. Over that 20-day period, the president’s support has stayed between 44% and 46% every single day. Romney has stayed in the 44% to 47% range.

It seems reasonable to conclude that so far, at least, the Bain attacks haven’t had perceptibly more impact than everything else that has been happening in the campaign on a day to day basis. Two caveats, however, are appropriate. First, Obama has spent an enormous amount of money attacking Romney in a small number of swing states. It is possible that state-by-state polling could show more impact from the Bain attacks in a particular state. Second, most voters who are undecided at this point are low-information voters. It often takes some time for campaign themes to sink into the consciousness of such voters, so it is possible that the effects of the anti-Bain campaign could appear over time.

For the moment, however, the Rasmussen data suggest that Obama’s Bain attacks have not been especially effective in the context of everything else going on in the campaign. More broadly, Obama has spent large amounts of money on attack ads; far more than Romney has spent. Romney has been raising money and has mostly been keeping his resources in reserve for later in the campaign. So, if one wants to be optimistic, it is reasonable to conclude that Romney is surviving Obama’s onslaught quite well so far. Obama’s strategy is to “kill Romney,” but at the moment, Romney is very much alive.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/07/are-obamas-bain-attacks-getting-traction.php

[Straw Man]

Multiple news sources and multiple Bain execs have BACKED Romney's statement.  

and mutiple sources, especially Bain documents (memos, letter, SEC filings, payments to Romney etc) and statements by Romney himself when he was trying to prove his residency when running for governor support the claim that Romney had not completely left Bain when he said he did

[blacken700]

In a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of swing states, an overwhelming majority of voters remember seeing campaign ads over the past month; most voters in other states say they haven't. In the battlegrounds, one in 12 say the commercials have changed their minds about President Obama or Republican Mitt Romney — a difference on the margins, but one that could prove crucial in a close race.

At this point, Obama is the clear winner in the ad wars. Among swing-state voters who say the ads have changed their minds about a candidate, rather than just confirmed what they already thought, 76% now support the president, vs. 16% favoring Romney.

"We gave them new information," says Obama campaign manager Jim Messina. "Romney had been out there claiming success as governor," but Democratic ads have prompted voters to "take a look at his record" on job creation and as head of the private-equity firm Bain Capital. Messina also credits a $25 million buy for a positive ad "about the challenges the president inherited and what we had to do to move this country forward."

To be sure, Obama's ads have done more to win back Democrats than to win over independents or Republicans: Thirteen percent of Democrats say their minds have been changed by ads, compared with 9% of independents and 3% of Republicans.

Romney pollster Neil Newhouse calls the findings unsurprising. "It is expected to find that more voters say their views have changed about Mitt Romney; they simply don't know him all that well," he says. "On the other hand, there are few voters who are going to say their views have changed about President Obama. They know him pretty damned well."

Obama and his allies have outspent Romney's side on ads so far by almost a third. Although the TV spots didn't start earlier than in recent elections, there have been more than ever before — including a negative flood from the new breed of super PACs — and they are continuing without the traditional summertime letup.

[240 is Back]

You mean the same accusers that, two of whom to this day, STILL HAVE YET to say what Cain supposedly did to them (despite being given permission by the company that waived the confidentiality clause)?
Or the blonde, whose rep was about as valid as monopoly money, whose story had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese?
Or that last woman, who GOT SUED IN COURT for libel and slander and LOST, whose friends and associates have absolutely NO recollection of any alleged affair with Cain?

1) Cain said he had never done anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage.

2) Cain later admitted he had secretly given $ to the woman for 12 years without telling his wife (lots of 4 AM texts too...)

Cain lied.  Maybe we never saw proof of 5 affairs, but ONE is all you need to know the MFer is a MFing liar.  Which he is.


In this case,

1) Rommney claained NO AFFILIATION with Bain from 99-2002.

2) We see he attended board meetings and was paid well during that time.


So there is nothing to argue about.  Doesn't matter if someone who made $100 mil with romney backs him up.  ALl that matters is that romney lied about no affiliation.  Period.  You can pull out all the people you want (people who worked FOR him lmao)....

[MCWAY]

In a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of swing states, an overwhelming majority of voters remember seeing campaign ads over the past month; most voters in other states say they haven't. In the battlegrounds, one in 12 say the commercials have changed their minds about President Obama or Republican Mitt Romney — a difference on the margins, but one that could prove crucial in a close race.

At this point, Obama is the clear winner in the ad wars. Among swing-state voters who say the ads have changed their minds about a candidate, rather than just confirmed what they already thought, 76% now support the president, vs. 16% favoring Romney.

"We gave them new information," says Obama campaign manager Jim Messina. "Romney had been out there claiming success as governor," but Democratic ads have prompted voters to "take a look at his record" on job creation and as head of the private-equity firm Bain Capital. Messina also credits a $25 million buy for a positive ad "about the challenges the president inherited and what we had to do to move this country forward."

To be sure, Obama's ads have done more to win back Democrats than to win over independents or Republicans: Thirteen percent of Democrats say their minds have been changed by ads, compared with 9% of independents and 3% of Republicans.

Romney pollster Neil Newhouse calls the findings unsurprising. "It is expected to find that more voters say their views have changed about Mitt Romney; they simply don't know him all that well," he says. "On the other hand, there are few voters who are going to say their views have changed about President Obama. They know him pretty damned well."

Obama and his allies have outspent Romney's side on ads so far by almost a third. Although the TV spots didn't start earlier than in recent elections, there have been more than ever before — including a negative flood from the new breed of super PACs — and they are continuing without the traditional summertime letup.

Thank you for making my point (while simultaneously sticking your foot in your mouth). Basically for all that money, time, and effort spent by the Obama crew, about SIX PERCENT of swing-state voters switched from Romney to Obama. And, that's with criticism on Romney that he's not fighting the charges as aggressively as he should.

That is PATHETIC. And, at the end of the say, Obama is STILL tied with Romney. Talk about getting almost no bang for your buck. Three and a half months out from an election for an incumbent, against the winner of the "worst GOP field in history", blowing all that dough on negative (and demonstrably false ads). Yet, he is still TIED.

[blacken700]

Thank you for making my point (while simultaneously sticking your foot in your mouth). Basically for all that money, time, and effort spent by the Obama crew, about SIX PERCENT of swing-state voters switched from Romney to Obama. And, that's with criticism on Romney that he's not fighting the charges as aggressively as he should.

That is PATHETIC. And, at the end of the say, Obama is STILL tied with Romney. Talk about getting almost no bang for your buck. Three and a half months out from an election for an incumbent, against the winner of the "worst GOP field in history", blowing all that dough on negative (and demonstrably false ads). Yet, he is still TIED.

i can't argue with you no more ,santa's real,everyting rush and beck say is 100% true,palin is brillant,and they made a boat to carry 2 of every animal                        

[240 is Back]

Thank you for making my point (while simultaneously sticking your foot in your mouth). Basically for all that money, time, and effort spent by the Obama crew, about SIX PERCENT of swing-state voters switched from Romney to Obama.

Obama won over mccain by 6%.  

Six percent is a landslide.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama won over mccain by 6%.  

Six percent is a landslide.

Obama is blowing his wad way too early.   

We still have 5 more disastrous jobs reports your thug messiah has to answer for.   

[MCWAY]

1) Cain said he had never done anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage.

2) Cain later admitted he had secretly given $ to the woman for 12 years without telling his wife (lots of 4 AM texts too...)

Cain lied.  Maybe we never saw proof of 5 affairs, but ONE is all you need to know the MFer is a MFing liar.  Which he is.

1) Cain was asked that, in the context of SEXUAL HARRASSMENT. He denied the charge and TO THIS DAY, those two women won't say what Cain supposedly did, despite all the legal hurdles being cleared for them to do so.

2) Cain said he helped her out; he never denied that. And the lion's share of those texts were to him, not from him. Furthermore, that woman is a PROVEN LIAR, busted in court for slander and libel. Yet, you're cracked enough to believe someone convicted of such behavior instead of Cain.

Then again, that's to be expected from an Obama kneepadder, especially in light of all the instances you've clammed up, regarding Obama's flagrant LYING.

In this case,

1) Rommney claained NO AFFILIATION with Bain from 99-2002.

2) We see he attended board meetings and was paid well during that time.


So there is nothing to argue about.  Doesn't matter if someone who made $100 mil with romney backs him up.  ALl that matters is that romney lied about no affiliation.  Period.  You can pull out all the people you want (people who worked FOR him lmao)....

There is nothing about which to argue. This story has been refuted more times than I care to count. And the reason you keep dredging it up is to do the very thing about which you constantly complain: DEFLECT FROM THE BAD ECONOMIC NEWS.

[240 is Back]

Cain was proven to be a liar.  Period.  No denying it.  Even if he was only busted on 1 of 100 claims - it only takes 1 to be a liar, correct?

[Soul Crusher]

Cain was proven to be a liar.  Period.  No denying it.  Even if he was only busted on 1 of 100 claims - it only takes 1 to be a liar, correct?

Amazing - as if you give a shit considering what you have kneepadded obama over?

[Straw Man]

Obama won over mccain by 6%.  

Six percent is a landslide.

yep and Obama will just keep running those ads and every time Romney cries about it and demands an apology the topic will just be refocused even more

I honestly can't wait for the debates.

They are going to be a hoot    

[240 is Back]

Amazing - as if you give a shit considering what you have kneepadded obama over?

I'm voting romney over obama in 2012.

But you know i'm right here.  Cain lied.  Romney lied.  Facts, nothing to deny.  Maybe we don't have proof cain did 50 things, but we do know he did that 1.

It just takes one lie - looking into the cameras and telling Americans somethign you know to be false - to be a bag o shite liar.

[Soul Crusher]

yep and Obama will just keep running those ads and every time Romney cries about it and demands an apology the topic will just be refocused even more

I honestly can't wait for the debates.

They are going to be a hoot    

True - can't wait to see obama make excuses for his failed record.  

[MCWAY]

Obama won over mccain by 6%.  

Six percent is a landslide.

Obama isn't up by 6%. He's tied.

He's spending way too much money for little-or-no effect.

[Straw Man]

True - can't wait to see obama make excuses for his failed record.  

I can't even believe you will be watching since you thought the Obama wouldn't even be on the ticket

[MCWAY]

yep and Obama will just keep running those ads and every time Romney cries about it and demands an apology the topic will just be refocused even more

I honestly can't wait for the debates.

They are going to be a hoot    

And, once Obama gets taken apart, then what's the excuse going to be?

[orion]

And, once Obama gets taken apart, then what's the excuse going to be?

You seriously think Mitt can defeat Obama in a debate?  Even Gingrich made him look like a fool.

[240 is Back]

Obama isn't up by 6%. He's tied.

He's spending way too much money for little-or-no effect.

but the gain of 6% is HUGE, even if the result is a tie.

[MCWAY]

You seriously think Mitt can defeat Obama in a debate?  Even Gingrich made him look like a fool.

Gingrich did that in one state, South Carolina. And, he's known for being an excellent debater. Obama, off teleprompter, is quite pitiful.

Romney's been sharpened by his duels with Gingrich and Santorum. He'll be ready for Obama, who doesn't exactly have a record with which he can defend.