Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED

[MCWAY]

but the gain of 6% is HUGE, even if the result is a tie.

Hardly, especially in light of the money that's being spent and given that most of that was simply to get prodigal Dems to return home vs. winning over independents or Republicans.

[Straw Man]

Gingrich did that in one state, South Carolina. And, he's known for being an excellent debater. Obama, off teleprompter, is quite pitiful.

Romney's been sharpened by his duels with Gingrich and Santorum. He'll be ready for Obama, who doesn't exactly have a record with which he can defend.

of course he has a record he can defend

Romney is the one who is going to sound like a programmed robot he will just give preplanned answers no matter what the question actually is and won't be able to go off script too far withouth getting totally lost

[240 is Back]

Obama, off teleprompter, is quite pitiful.

Did Obama outperform mccain and hilary?

[MCWAY]

of course he has a record he can defend

Romney is the one who is going to sound like a programmed robot he will just give preplanned answers no matter what the question actually is and won't be able to go off script too far withouth getting totally lost

8% unemployment or higher for 42 straight months
9% unemployment or higher for 33 months
Over half of college grads under/unemployed
Democrat party takes worst beating in 70 years
Only president to get us downgraded, credit-wise
Only president that will have a net LOSS of jobs after four years in office.
Tax hikes on the middle class via ObamaCare
Premiums up double to fourfold under ObamaCare

Yeah....Good luck with Obama, defending that mess.

[MCWAY]

Did Obama outperform mccain and hilary?

He struggled with Hilary and McCain treated him with kid gloves. Obama now has a horrible record around his neck.

[blacken700]

8% unemployment or higher for 42 straight months
9% unemployment or higher for 33 months
Over half of college grads under/unemployed
Democrat party takes worst beating in 70 years
Only president to get us downgraded, credit-wise
Only president that will have a net LOSS of jobs after four years in office.
Tax hikes on the middle class via ObamaCare
Premiums up double to fourfold under ObamaCare

Yeah....Good luck with Obama, defending that mess.

problem is  people still blame bush for the enconomy,sorry wrong again
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/14/gallup-more-people-still-blame-bush-for-poor-economy-than-obama/&sa=U&ei=hQEGUMubLYjZ6wHDvtDfCA&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGBPpiGtQOyI9TheThF2V48RF3qag

[MCWAY]

problem is  people still blame bush for the enconomy,sorry wrong again
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/14/gallup-more-people-still-blame-bush-for-poor-economy-than-obama/&sa=U&ei=hQEGUMubLYjZ6wHDvtDfCA&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGBPpiGtQOyI9TheThF2V48RF3qag

Bush ain't running for president. Obama is. Sorry, wrong again.

Furthermore, the 42 months of 8% or higher unemployment came AFTER the stimulus (which was to keep unemployment under 8%) was passed.

To top it all off, if people were still blaming Bush, explain that massacre the Dems took in 2010.

[blacken700]

you don't like the pole don't cry to me     who said bush was running,the poll says they blame bush more

[MCWAY]

you don't like the pole don't cry to me     who said bush was running,the poll says they blame bush more

Blaming someone who ain't running is rather pointless. And, as the poll states, they don't hold Obama completely blameless in this.

When you make specific promises but don't deliver, that's not on your predecessor; that's on YOU.

[blacken700]

Still, 68% of Americans say former President Bush should be given a great deal or a moderate amount of blame for the nation's economic woes -- substantially more than say the same about Obama. This suggests that Obama's argument that he is on the right track and needs more time to turn the economy around could fall on receptive ears, particularly those of independents.

[Straw Man]

Still, 68% of Americans say former President Bush should be given a great deal or a moderate amount of blame for the nation's economic woes -- substantially more than say the same about Obama. This suggests that Obama's argument that he is on the right track and needs more time to turn the economy around could fall on receptive ears, particularly those of independents.

but, but, but, ....McWay doesn't like Obama

doesn't that count for anything ?

[MCWAY]

Still, 68% of Americans say former President Bush should be given a great deal or a moderate amount of blame for the nation's economic woes -- substantially more than say the same about Obama. This suggests that Obama's argument that he is on the right track and needs more time to turn the economy around could fall on receptive ears, particularly those of independents.

Obama is bleeding independents like a stuck pig. The fact that the Dems got beat up in 2010 pretty much puts to rest the notion that America is blaming George Bush.

8% unemployment for 42 months straight (AFTER SPENDING nearly 800 billion on a so-called "stimulus") is hardly the right track. And considering that Team Obama doesn't count those who've stopped looking, the numbers are even worse.

Obama himself stated that, if he couldn't turn things around in three years, he should be a ONE-TERM president. It's been three and a half years. He's nowhere near turning this economy around.

[MCWAY]

but, but, but, ....McWay doesn't like Obama

doesn't that count for anything ?

8% unemployment or higher for 42 straight months
9% unemployment or higher for 33 months
Over half of college grads under/unemployed
Democrat party takes worst beating in 70 years
Only president to get us downgraded, credit-wise
Only president that will have a net LOSS of jobs after four years in office.
Tax hikes on the middle class via ObamaCare
Premiums up double to fourfold under ObamaCare


And, I am supposed to like Obama because.......OH, he's black. Never mind. 

[blacken700]

Obama is bleeding independents like a stuck pig. The fact that the Dems got beat up in 2010 pretty much puts to rest the notion that America is blaming George Bush.

8% unemployment for 42 months straight (AFTER SPENDING nearly 800 billion on a so-called "stimulus") is hardly the right track. And considering that Team Obama doesn't count those who've stopped looking, the numbers are even worse.

Obama himself stated that, if he couldn't turn things around in three years, he should be a ONE-TERM president. It's been three and a half years. He's nowhere near turning this economy around.

you can type what you want but it doesn't change the poll

[Straw Man]

8% unemployment or higher for 42 straight months
9% unemployment or higher for 33 months
Over half of college grads under/unemployed
Democrat party takes worst beating in 70 years
Only president to get us downgraded, credit-wise
Only president that will have a net LOSS of jobs after four years in office.
Tax hikes on the middle class via ObamaCare
Premiums up double to fourfold under ObamaCare


And, I am supposed to like Obama because.......OH, he's black. Never mind. 

yep and still almost 70% of people think Bush gets most of the blame

I know that's tough for you to deal with

[MCWAY]

you can type what you want but it doesn't change the poll

Big deal. There were polls that said the Wisconsin recall race was "too close to call". Walker won going away.

Four years ago, in California, polls said Californians wanted gay "marriage" and Prop. 8 would fail to pass. How did that work out?

Yapping about a poll, blaming someone who ain't running in 2012, ranks right up there with your other pointless quips.

Were this all about blaming Bush, the Dems wouldn't have been bludgeoned in 2010.

[Straw Man]

Big deal. There were polls that said the Wisconsin recall race was "too close to call". Walker won going away
Four years ago, in California, polls said Californians wanted gay "marriage" and Prop. 8 would fail to pass. How did that work out?.


Yapping about a poll, blaming someone who ain't running in 2012, ranks right up there with your other pointless quips.

Were this all about blaming Bush, the Dems wouldn't have been bludgeoned in 2010.

polls on both were accurate at the time of the election

Romney is not going to lose because people blame Bush

Romney is going to lose because people don't like and and don't trust him

[MCWAY]

yep and still almost 70% of people think Bush gets most of the blame

I know that's tough for you to deal with

If Bush were running, I would care.

HE'S NOT. I know that's tough fact for YOU.

Obama made a bunch of promises and BLEW them big time. No amount of Bush-blaming is going to save him from having to answer for that.

Is unemployment under 8%, since his stimulus was passed? NO!

Did he cut the deficit in half? NO!

Did he run the most transparent administration in history? PLEASE!!!!

Is unemployment around 5.5%, as he said it would be? NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

Did he keep his promise not to raise taxes on the middle class? HARDLY!!

But, you keep deluding yourself into thinking that blaming Bush is going to save Obama.

[MCWAY]

polls on both were accurate at the time of the election

Just weeks before the Prop. 8 vote, the polls had the amendment failing. It passed by 4-5 points.

Mere days before the recall, we had polls with Walker up by three or less (which I suspected were bogus). I picked Walker by 6; he won by 7. The race was called less than an hour after the polls closed. That's not the sign of a race that's "too close to call".

Romney is not going to lose because people blame Bush

Romney is going to lose because people don't like and and don't trust him

I wouldn't bet my house on that, unless you have plenty of cardboard on standby.

Obama is tied with Romney, despite blowing tens of millions on negative ads. When it's time to defend that pitiful record of his, it could be even uglier. No incumbent president should be in the low-mid 40s in approval THIS LATE into an election.

[Straw Man]

Just weeks before the Prop. 8 vote, the polls had the amendment failing. It passed by 4-5 points.

Mere days before the recall, we had polls with Walker up by three or less (which I suspected were bogus). I picked Walker by 6; he won by 7. The race was called less than an hour after the polls closed. That's not the sign of a race that's "too close to call".

I wouldn't bet my house on that, unless you have plenty of cardboard on standby.

Obama is tied with Romney, despite blowing tens of millions on negative ads. When it's time to defend that pitiful record of his, it could be even uglier. No incumbent president should be in the low-mid 40s in approval THIS LATE into an election.

bet my house?

ok - I guess I'll take your advice and not do that

like I've said, Romney will lose all on his own and not because of a poll about Obama v Bush

[orion]

So seriously McWay, what is it about Romney that you identify with, other than him being white? I believe people vote more with their hearts than minds, generally they will choose the person that is most like them.  If you are just an average assembly line worker you will likely vote Obama than Romney, if you work as an investor, yeah your're going with Romney. It is really not that complicated. If you're a millionaire then I understand your position.

[Soul Crusher]

So seriously McWay, what is it about Romney that you identify with, other than him being white? I believe people vote more with their hearts than minds, generally they will choose the person that is most like them.  If you are just an average assembly line worker you will likely vote Obama than Romney, if you work as an investor, yeah your're going with Romney. It is really not that complicated. If you're a millionaire then I understand your position.

SIMPLE - under obama's economy if you are a line worker - the chances of your factory closing down or going out of business is far more likely than if under Romney.

Speaking of line workers - remember that one obama was pimping in the ad?

He hates Obama.

http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/13535/laid_off_steelworker_in_anti-romney_ad_says_he_is_not_voting_for_obama

[orion]

SIMPLE - under obama's economy if you are a line worker - the chances of your factory closing down or going out of business is far more likely than if under Romney.

 
 
 

Wasn't Romney against the auto bailout?  Even Bush thought it was agood idea.

[Soul Crusher]

Wasn't Romney against the auto bailout?  Even Bush thought it was agood idea.

I was against the bailout too.  GM could have gone through a normal bankruptcy Chapter 11 and restructured. 

Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, BMW, Honda, KIA, all who make cars here, didnt need a bailout. 

[Grape Ape]

Wasn't Romney against the auto bailout?  Even Bush thought it was agood idea.

I know it's an easy assumption to make, but not many independents / conservatives here were fans of Bush.