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Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds
 Fortune (CNN) ^ | July 12, 2012 | Dan Primack


http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/12/mitt-romney-bain-exit


FORTUNE -- Mitt Romney did not manage Bain Capital's investments after leaving to run the Salt Lake City Olympic Games, according to confidential firm documents obtained by Fortune.

The timing of Romney's departure from Bain became a lightning rod earlier today, when The Boston Globe published an article suggesting that Romney remained actively involved with the firm longer than he and his campaign have claimed. The sourcing is largely SEC documents that list Romney as Bain Capital's CEO and sole shareholder through 2002 -- or three years after Romney officially left to run the Salt Lake City Olympic Games.

These claims are very similar to ones made last week by David Corn in Mother Jones, which we disputed at the time.

Now Fortune has obtained new evidence that supports Romney's version of events.

Bain Capital began circulating offering documents for its seventh private equity fund in June 2000. Those documents include several pages specifying fund management. The section begins:

Set forth below is information regarding the background of the senior private equity investment professionals of Bain Capital. Also listed are certain investment professionals responsible for the day-to-day affairs of the Brookside and Sankaty funds, which are affiliated funds of Fund VII.

It then goes on to list 18 managers of the private equity fund. Mitt Romney is not among them. Same goes for an affiliated co-investment fund, whose private placement memorandum is dated September 2000.

Then there is Bain Capital Venture Fund -- the firm's first dedicated venture capital effort -- whose private placement memorandum is dated January 2001. Romney also isn't listed among its "key investment professionals," or as part of its day-to-day operations or investment committee.

All of this could prove problematic for the Obama campaign, which has spent the day crowing over the Globe story...


"When Mitt Romney ran for governor and now as he's running for president, he consistently claimed he could not be blamed for bankruptcies and layoffs from Bain investments after February 1999 because he departed for the Olympics," said Obama spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter, according to the Globe. "Now, we know that he wasn't telling the truth."
 
But the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain -- which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm.
 
As Fortune wrote earlier, Romney left Bain suddenly -- rather than as part of an organized transition plan -- after being asked to lead an Olympic organizing committee that had spiraled out of control. Moreover, it was unclear in February 1999 if Romney's leave of absence would be permanent, or if he would return (as he had in 1994, after losing a U.S.Senate race to Ted Kennedy). He didn't formally give up his title and firm ownership until 2002, once the Games had been successful and he was interested in other elective office. In the interim, he continued to fulfill legal obligations such as signing certain documents -- but actual investment and managerial decisions were being made by others.
 

After being informed of the Bain Capital documents, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt emailed over the following statement:
 

"Mitt Romney either misled the American people or misrepresented himself to the SEC.  Romney has said he had no authority or responsibility for managing Bain since 1999, but that has been proven false. Regardless of whether he was on the management committee for this particular deal, he remained  President, CEO, and Chairman of the Board and he was legally responsible for every investment and decision made by Bain."
 
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Fortune is an anti-obama rag if there ever was one

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The problem with these kinds of things, is that the people, and the media, dont give a shit about reality - once the 1st story is out there, even if its a lie, people are going to run with it.
They dont care that on buried 4th page is a blurb about how Romney really didnt do what was the headline on page 1 two days ago.

Thats the shitty thing about media politics - they can post bullshit articles and people will store that in their mind - and no matter how many times you debunk it, their minds wont change.

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Fortune is an anti-obama rag if there ever was one


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please define "left" Bain.

DId he really leave if he was still making $?
DId he really leave if he was still CEO?
I guess you can believe "left" means he shirks all responability but enjoys all profit and title while taking no blame for the mean shit they did at that time.

is that accurate?

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As Fortune wrote earlier, Romney left Bain suddenly -- rather than as part of an organized transition plan -- after being asked to lead an Olympic organizing committee that had spiraled out of control. Moreover, it was unclear in February 1999 if Romney's leave of absence would be permanent, or if he would return (as he had in 1994, after losing a U.S.Senate race to Ted Kennedy). He didn't formally give up his title and firm ownership until 2002, once the Games had been successful and he was interested in other elective office. In the interim, he continued to fulfill legal obligations such as signing certain documents -- but actual investment and managerial decisions were being made by others.

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Obama was attending board meetings for those 3 years, including specifically those for Staples.


I guess you can 'leave' but still be CEO and attend the board meetins, huh?  ;)

33, will you concede that IF it is proven Romney (still ceo on paper) was actually ATTENDING BOARD MEETINGS, will you admit he didn't really "leave"?


If false, i'll accept he 'left' but left his name on paper.  BUT if he was attending board meetings, will you consider him still a part of Bain?

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Romney testified under oath that he was still attending board meetings for Bain companies in 2002.   This should put the issue to rest.



WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney's repeated claim that he played no part in executive decision-making related to Bain Capital after 1999 is false, according to Romney's own testimony in June 2002, in which he admitted to sitting on the board of the LifeLike Co., a dollmaker that was a Bain investment during the period.

Romney has consistently insisted that he was too busy organizing the 2002 Winter Olympics to take part in Bain business between 1999 and that event. But in the testimony, which was provided to The Huffington Post, Romney noted that he regularly traveled back to Massachusetts. "[T]here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth," he said.

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The opening statement delivered by Romney's lawyer in the 2002 hearing said Romney "continued to serve on the board of directors of a significant Massachusetts company and to return here for most of its board meetings."

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Haha, they can't even keep the Dems in line on this and Mr. Dipshit, 180 or Bust, thinks he's onto something. LOL. A man who ran for the senate as a Dem is saying Romney was out in 1999 but 240 in his trailer knows more.

Funny how Blacken and 240 have logged 30x the number of posts on this joke of a topic than they have on last week's atrocious job numbers. Even funnier that the jerk-off known as 240 was actually complaining about people being wrapped up on stupid topics. Pot meet kettle.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 02:15:05 PM »
As Fortune wrote earlier, Romney left Bain suddenly -- rather than as part of an organized transition plan -- after being asked to lead an Olympic organizing committee that had spiraled out of control. Moreover, it was unclear in February 1999 if Romney's leave of absence would be permanent, or if he would return (as he had in 1994, after losing a U.S.Senate race to Ted Kennedy). He didn't formally give up his title and firm ownership until 2002, once the Games had been successful and he was interested in other elective office. In the interim, he continued to fulfill legal obligations such as signing certain documents -- but actual investment and managerial decisions were being made by others.

Interesting...did he sign documents authorizing the decisions made by others?

This is a bit murky.  

Before you all get your conservative panties in a bundle.....  Just wondering.  

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 02:26:08 PM »
Interesting...did he sign documents authorizing the decisions made by others?

This is a bit murky.  

Before you all get your conservative panties in a bundle.....  Just wondering.  

He could have signed the minutes or the some other annual docs that are routine. 

I don't even see why this is a story. 

The due was doing so well at Bain that he was asked to leave to save thje Olympics and he didnt close everything down on his end first and its some national scandal? 


Really?  This is what the hacks like 180 want to crusade on vs EVER responding in a thread on the economy or the fiscal nightmare we are in? 


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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 05:15:07 PM »
I think what they are trying to do is show that he outsourced jobs and they are drawing the connection that he was still in charge and signed off on these decisions. 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 05:17:48 PM »
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Haha, they can't even keep the Dems in line on this and Mr. Dipshit, 180 or Bust, thinks he's onto something. LOL. A man who ran for the senate as a Dem is saying Romney was out in 1999 but 240 in his trailer knows more.

Funny how Blacken and 240 have logged 30x the number of posts on this joke of a topic than they have on last week's atrocious job numbers. Even funnier that the jerk-off known as 240 was actually complaining about people being wrapped up on stupid topics. Pot meet kettle.

Another dumb non-issue.  Romney is right that Obama owes him an apology.  Doubt he gets it. 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 05:31:58 PM »
Another dumb non-issue.  Romney is right that Obama owes him an apology.  Doubt he gets it. 

I'm sure it will happen right after Romney apologizes for his blatant lies about Solyndra or his completely misldeading first official campaign ad

If I've learned anythign from Repubs it's that pereception is reality and if there is even a speck of truth to something then it's fine to push ahead with a full blown lie and say it over and over and over again because eventually people will believe it and then it will be "true"

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 06:28:36 PM »
This is the basis for the OB charge that Romney is an outsourcer?

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 06:29:42 PM »
This is the basis for the OB charge that Romney is an outsourcer?

More distraction from Obamas record.   Isn't je running on his record again? 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2012, 06:32:16 PM »
More distraction from Obamas record.   Isn't je running on his record again? 

Yeah, I wonder what the plan is after this runs out?  It kind of lame to attack a guy for being successful and wealthy.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2012, 06:36:54 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Obama-took-bain-cash



LOL!!!!   

Obama took money fromvthe same people he is attacking! 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2012, 06:48:46 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Obama-took-bain-cash



LOL!!!!  

Obama took money fromvthe same people he is attacking!  

Omg lol

Did he take it from individuals wh worked for Bain or did he take it from Bain itself?

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 06:52:09 PM »
Omg lol

Did he take it from individuals wh worked for Bain or did he take it from Bain itself?


Obama is trying to run out the clock and avoid any discussion of his disastrous record.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2012, 06:56:10 PM »

Obama is trying to run out the clock and avoid any discussion of his disastrous record.

You are doing that thing again, where you avoid the discussion point I brought up, but instead bring up some blanket attack.  

Please try and have a focused "real" discussion with me from now on.  ;D


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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2012, 06:56:56 PM »
debunked only in your mind  ;D


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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 06:58:30 PM »
This is the basis for the OB charge that Romney is an outsourcer?

Yep.  Fail. 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2012, 07:01:00 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Obama-took-bain-cash



LOL!!!!   

Obama took money fromvthe same people he is attacking! 

Oh this is hilarious.   :)

Obama Took Cash From Bain Outsourcing Execs
by Ben Shapiro 13 Jul 2012
 
Barack Obama’s campaign has been quick to rip Mitt Romney for his association with Bain Capital, which outsourced certain jobs during restructuring of companies. There’s only one problem: many of the very executives who were running Bain Capital during the 1999-2002 period now under media scrutiny donated to Obama’s presidential campaign. And Obama was more than happy to cash the checks.

The same SEC form from February 2001 that lists Mitt Romney as “sole shareholder, sole director, Chief Executive Officer and President of Bain Capital … the controlling person of Bain Capital” also lists over a dozen other managing directors of Bain Capital, Inc. -- all of whom were undoubtedly more active than Romney was during this period. And President Obama took money from many of them.

Take Joshua Bekenstein. Bekenstein has been a managing director of Bain Capital since 1986. In 2008, he signed Barack Obama a $4,600 check. In 2004, he gave a $50,000 donation to the Democratic National Committee. That’s outsourcing money, plain and simple. And Obama was happy to take it.

Or how about Stephen Pagliuca? Last year, he cut a $35,800 check to Barack Obama’s Victory Fund. Then he cut another $30,800 check to the DNC. And another $30,800 check to the DCCC. Jonathan Lavine and Mark Nunnelly have both maxed out to Obama already, as well as to the DNC. Lavin was a bundler for Obama, and raised over $100,000 for him. Michael Krupka gave Obama $4,600 in 2008.

As we’ve seen, the leftist media thinks it’s a disaster if a private citizen, Mitt Romney, made money from an investment company that outsourced jobs to save companies. But the leftist media seems perfectly comfortable with Barack Obama cashing checks from the executives who actually made the decisions to outsource.

The truth is that there’s nothing wrong with a private company outsourcing. Democrats know it. Republicans know it. Everybody knows it. But the Obama campaign is hypocritically pointing to Romney’s pocketbook while zealously guarding its own. Apparently, it's fine to outsource so long as the name on the contribution check reads "Barack Obama."