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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 07:01:01 PM »
debunked only in your mind  ;D



Debunked in his mind, and in several papers, and reports. But, let's forget about that, because of this joke of a commentator, Martin Bashir, on the red-headed stepchild of cable news.  ::)

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2012, 07:02:43 PM »
again, so fucking what?   Romney was so fucking amazing at his job at Bain that they begged him to save the Olympics, which he did, and now they are attacking him over corporate filings ?  



Are you stupid liberal fucks amd incompetent illiterate morons so obtuse not to see the Romney is the guy we need now that obama has failed miserable?

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2012, 07:05:00 PM »
again, so fucking what?   Romney was so fucking amazing at his job at Bain that they begged him to save the Olympics, which he did, and now they are attacking him over corporate filings ?  



Are you stupid liberal fucks amd incompetent illiterate morons so obtuse not to see the Romney is the guy we need now that obama has failed miserable?

PLEASE!! This is Team Kneepadder that you're addressing, 333386.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2012, 07:07:55 PM »
were not going to change mcway view,shit he thought cain was going to win  :D :D :D,hey but when you get your news from rush and beck can you expect anything more  :D

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2012, 07:08:51 PM »
PLEASE!! This is Team Kneepadder that you're addressing, 333386.

I am beyond disgusted and revolted by these liberal piece of trash like blackass, 180, straw, etc.


Romney was not my first choice, but guy, he has a record of success!   Obama is a disaster and these leftists communist failures prefer fail instead of progress.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2012, 07:11:38 PM »
were not going to change mcway view,shit he thought cain was going to win  :D :D :D,hey but when you get your news from rush and beck can you expect anything more  :D

Look who's talking, the crackpot who gets his news from MSNBC, the biggest JOKE in the industry.

Let's see: The number one and three talk show hosts in the country or the laughingstock (red-headed stepchild) of cable news (heck, of news network, period). Gee....there's a tough one there.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2012, 07:11:52 PM »
Bain Capital wanted its clients to know that Mitt Romney wasn’t leaving the company when he went to the Olympics, as Romney now claims was the case.

The press release, which was obtained through a simple Nexis search…appears to contradict claims by both Romney and Bain that he had no involvement in the company’s day-to-day operations after February 11, 1999.

In his most recent financial disclosure form, Romney said he had retired from the firm in February of 1999. “Since February 11, 1999,” the document states, “Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.”

According to this press release, however, Romney was the firm’s part-time CEO at least through July of 1999, contradicting the Romney campaign’s claim that SEC filings listing him as the firm’s CEO and sole owner were simply a “quirk in the law.”

And a former executive, Mark B. Wolpow, says:

“I reported directly to Mitt Romney . . . You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, `I really don’t know what my guys were doing,’” Mr. Wolpow said of Mr. Romney role at the company during his leave.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2012, 07:13:39 PM »
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/07/13/romney_admitted_in_2002_he_never_cut_ties_to_bain.html


July 13, 2012

Romney Admitted in 2002 He Never Cut Ties to Bain


Politicker: "Back in 2002 when he was running for Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney and his aides had no problem admitting he retained his position as CEO of Bain Capital after 1999. Press articles from the time describe how Mr. Romney was on a 'leave of absence' after 1999 and had not fully cut ties with the private equity firm."

Dave Weigel quotes a Boston Herald article when Romney left the firm in February 1999: "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investment and key personnel decisions."

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2012, 07:14:28 PM »
Bain Capital wanted its clients to know that Mitt Romney wasn’t leaving the company when he went to the Olympics, as Romney now claims was the case.

The press release, which was obtained through a simple Nexis search…appears to contradict claims by both Romney and Bain that he had no involvement in the company’s day-to-day operations after February 11, 1999.

In his most recent financial disclosure form, Romney said he had retired from the firm in February of 1999. “Since February 11, 1999,” the document states, “Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.”

According to this press release, however, Romney was the firm’s part-time CEO at least through July of 1999, contradicting the Romney campaign’s claim that SEC filings listing him as the firm’s CEO and sole owner were simply a “quirk in the law.”

And a former executive, Mark B. Wolpow, says:

“I reported directly to Mitt Romney . . . You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, `I really don’t know what my guys were doing,’” Mr. Wolpow said of Mr. Romney role at the company during his leave.


And the reason Romney shouldn't be president and Obama should get another four years would be.........

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2012, 07:14:35 PM »
LMFAO!!!!   So he was sp great at his job that they wanted investors to know he was still there right?b. Are you crazy leftists amd communists. Kidding me?  



Bain Capital wanted its clients to know that Mitt Romney wasn’t leaving the company when he went to the Olympics, as Romney now claims was the case.

The press release, which was obtained through a simple Nexis search…appears to contradict claims by both Romney and Bain that he had no involvement in the company’s day-to-day operations after February 11, 1999.

In his most recent financial disclosure form, Romney said he had retired from the firm in February of 1999. “Since February 11, 1999,” the document states, “Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.”

According to this press release, however, Romney was the firm’s part-time CEO at least through July of 1999, contradicting the Romney campaign’s claim that SEC filings listing him as the firm’s CEO and sole owner were simply a “quirk in the law.”

And a former executive, Mark B. Wolpow, says:

“I reported directly to Mitt Romney . . . You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, `I really don’t know what my guys were doing,’” Mr. Wolpow said of Mr. Romney role at the company during his leave.


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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2012, 07:16:06 PM »
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/07/13/romney_admitted_in_2002_he_never_cut_ties_to_bain.html


July 13, 2012

Romney Admitted in 2002 He Never Cut Ties to Bain


Politicker: "Back in 2002 when he was running for Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney and his aides had no problem admitting he retained his position as CEO of Bain Capital after 1999. Press articles from the time describe how Mr. Romney was on a 'leave of absence' after 1999 and had not fully cut ties with the private equity firm."

Dave Weigel quotes a Boston Herald article when Romney left the firm in February 1999: "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investment and key personnel decisions."


8% unemployment or higher for FORTY-TWO STRAIGHT MONTHS...under Obama. No wonder you and the other kneepadders keep trying to yap about Bain.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2012, 07:19:23 PM »
WASHINGTON -- Between 1999 and 2001, Mitt Romney, then the CEO of Bain Capital, signed at least six documents that the private equity firm filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The documents run in direct contradiction to a claim that Romney has made repeatedly: that he had nothing to do with Bain, and therefore no responsibility for Bain investments, during that period.

It's also a claim he made in August 2011 on the federal disclosure form he filed as part of his presidential bid. Romney didn't leave any wiggle room: "Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee [for the 2002 Winter Olympics]. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way."

That is false.

SEC files include at least six instances of Romney signing documents after February 1999, proving -- unless the signatures were forged -- that his claim to not have "been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way" is wrong.

Most of the documents reference Romney as the "reporting person." Most of the filings were first reported by Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, although he noted them in an opinion column otherwise dedicated to demonstrating that Kessler was correct weeks ago when he wrote that Romney had parted ways with Bain in 1999.

For instance, in April 1999, Romney signed documents related to a Bain deal with Pirod Holdings.



In November of that year, his signature appears on documents connected to a deal with Stericycle.

In January 2000, he signed paperwork for a deal with VMM Merger Corp.

His John Hancock appears on ChipPAC Inc. documents in February 2001.

That same month, Romney's signature can be found on paperwork connected to a Bain deal with Integrated Circuit Systems Inc.

In February 2000, he signed documents related to a deal with Wesley Jessen Visioncare Inc.

"There's no contradiction here," a Romney spokesperson told HuffPost in a statement. "He did not participate in the investment or management decisions on any of these or any other investments during this period, as has been said repeatedly by Bain Capital and as was unanimously determined by the bipartisan Massachusetts ballot commission in 2002."

That's not entirely true, either.

As HuffPost reported Thursday, Romney sat in on the board meetings of at least one Bain investment. And the SEC filings back up Romney's own earlier statements involving Bain. In February 1999, the Boston Herald reported that "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investments and key personnel decisions. But he will leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee."

In 2002, the Boston Globe quoted Bain employee Marc Wolpow saying, "I reported directly to Mitt Romney ... You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, 'I really don’t know what my guys were doing.'"

Romney later said that he became too busy organizing the Winter Olympics and couldn't fulfill even the basic responsibilities he had outlined to the Herald. Yet in a 2002 hearing in a dispute over whether he was a Massachusetts resident eligible to run for governor, he testified that he still attended board meetings for at least one Bain-affiliated company.

Also in that hearing, he claimed to have taken a temporary leave of absence from Bain to helm the Salt Lake City Olympics.

As part of running for governor, Romney was required to submit personal financial disclosure statements to Massachusetts' State Ethics Commission under threat of perjury. In his 2001 disclosure statement, he listed himself as "Former Executive" for both Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. But in his 2002 disclosure statement, he provided a different answer, listing himself as "Executive" of Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. The latter may be one instance in which Romney and the SEC filings agree on his role.



"It is beyond belief that three years went by and this was some sort of clerical mistake," said Charlie Baker, a Democratic political operative who worked on the residency case against Romney.

The Massachusetts Democratic Party is jumping on these latest Bain revelations. "Clearly Mitt Romney isn't telling the truth about when he left Bain Capital. It’s clear he's either lying to the American People or lied to the SEC,” said Kevin Franck, the state party's communications director, in an email.

Perjury before the Massachusetts ethics commission can lead to civil penalties, although the bar for proving perjury is high and, in Romney's case, the statute of limitations has passed.

These latest twists in the Bain narrative look like vindication for Democrat Shannon O'Brien, who lost to Romney in the 2002 governor's race. The former state treasurer had made Romney's role in Bain an issue in the campaign. But at the time, Romney deflected her attacks by denying any involvement in the firm once he joined the Olympic planning effort in Utah, much as he is doing today, with less success.

"Ten years ago, when I ran against Mitt Romney for Governor, my campaign was attacked for misstating the truth about Romney's tenure at Bain Capital. Massachusetts voters were told that Romney was absolutely not the leader of Bain at a time when bankruptcies and layoffs were devastating workers at companies in their portfolio," O'Brien told HuffPost in an email. "Recent news stories now present clear evidence that Mitt Romney didn’t tell the truth to Massachusetts when he ran for Governor in 2002 and he's not telling the truth to the American people today."

O'Brien continued, pushing for the presumptive GOP presidential nominee to release his tax returns and settle issues over his finances now.

"I released my tax returns when I ran for Governor in 2002, and encouraged Mitt Romney to do so as well, but he refused to comply," she wrote. "He should follow the inspiration of his father, George Romney, and other presidential candidates and release 12 years of tax returns so that the American voters have a chance to learn more about the background and ethics of the man who wants to be their president."

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2012, 07:30:48 PM »
WASHINGTON -- Between 1999 and 2001, Mitt Romney, then the CEO of Bain Capital, signed at least six documents that the private equity firm filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The documents run in direct contradiction to a claim that Romney has made repeatedly: that he had nothing to do with Bain, and therefore no responsibility for Bain investments, during that period.

It's also a claim he made in August 2011 on the federal disclosure form he filed as part of his presidential bid. Romney didn't leave any wiggle room: "Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee [for the 2002 Winter Olympics]. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way."

That is false.

SEC files include at least six instances of Romney signing documents after February 1999, proving -- unless the signatures were forged -- that his claim to not have "been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way" is wrong.

Most of the documents reference Romney as the "reporting person." Most of the filings were first reported by Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post, although he noted them in an opinion column otherwise dedicated to demonstrating that Kessler was correct weeks ago when he wrote that Romney had parted ways with Bain in 1999.

For instance, in April 1999, Romney signed documents related to a Bain deal with Pirod Holdings.



In November of that year, his signature appears on documents connected to a deal with Stericycle.

In January 2000, he signed paperwork for a deal with VMM Merger Corp.

His John Hancock appears on ChipPAC Inc. documents in February 2001.

That same month, Romney's signature can be found on paperwork connected to a Bain deal with Integrated Circuit Systems Inc.

In February 2000, he signed documents related to a deal with Wesley Jessen Visioncare Inc.

"There's no contradiction here," a Romney spokesperson told HuffPost in a statement. "He did not participate in the investment or management decisions on any of these or any other investments during this period, as has been said repeatedly by Bain Capital and as was unanimously determined by the bipartisan Massachusetts ballot commission in 2002."

That's not entirely true, either.

As HuffPost reported Thursday, Romney sat in on the board meetings of at least one Bain investment. And the SEC filings back up Romney's own earlier statements involving Bain. In February 1999, the Boston Herald reported that "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investments and key personnel decisions. But he will leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee."

In 2002, the Boston Globe quoted Bain employee Marc Wolpow saying, "I reported directly to Mitt Romney ... You can’t be CEO of Bain Capital and say, 'I really don’t know what my guys were doing.'"

Romney later said that he became too busy organizing the Winter Olympics and couldn't fulfill even the basic responsibilities he had outlined to the Herald. Yet in a 2002 hearing in a dispute over whether he was a Massachusetts resident eligible to run for governor, he testified that he still attended board meetings for at least one Bain-affiliated company.

Also in that hearing, he claimed to have taken a temporary leave of absence from Bain to helm the Salt Lake City Olympics.

As part of running for governor, Romney was required to submit personal financial disclosure statements to Massachusetts' State Ethics Commission under threat of perjury. In his 2001 disclosure statement, he listed himself as "Former Executive" for both Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. But in his 2002 disclosure statement, he provided a different answer, listing himself as "Executive" of Bain Capital Inc. and Bain Capital LLC, with a gross income of more than $100,000. The latter may be one instance in which Romney and the SEC filings agree on his role.



"It is beyond belief that three years went by and this was some sort of clerical mistake," said Charlie Baker, a Democratic political operative who worked on the residency case against Romney.

The Massachusetts Democratic Party is jumping on these latest Bain revelations. "Clearly Mitt Romney isn't telling the truth about when he left Bain Capital. It’s clear he's either lying to the American People or lied to the SEC,” said Kevin Franck, the state party's communications director, in an email.

Perjury before the Massachusetts ethics commission can lead to civil penalties, although the bar for proving perjury is high and, in Romney's case, the statute of limitations has passed.

These latest twists in the Bain narrative look like vindication for Democrat Shannon O'Brien, who lost to Romney in the 2002 governor's race. The former state treasurer had made Romney's role in Bain an issue in the campaign. But at the time, Romney deflected her attacks by denying any involvement in the firm once he joined the Olympic planning effort in Utah, much as he is doing today, with less success.

"Ten years ago, when I ran against Mitt Romney for Governor, my campaign was attacked for misstating the truth about Romney's tenure at Bain Capital. Massachusetts voters were told that Romney was absolutely not the leader of Bain at a time when bankruptcies and layoffs were devastating workers at companies in their portfolio," O'Brien told HuffPost in an email. "Recent news stories now present clear evidence that Mitt Romney didn’t tell the truth to Massachusetts when he ran for Governor in 2002 and he's not telling the truth to the American people today."

O'Brien continued, pushing for the presumptive GOP presidential nominee to release his tax returns and settle issues over his finances now.

"I released my tax returns when I ran for Governor in 2002, and encouraged Mitt Romney to do so as well, but he refused to comply," she wrote. "He should follow the inspiration of his father, George Romney, and other presidential candidates and release 12 years of tax returns so that the American voters have a chance to learn more about the background and ethics of the man who wants to be their president."


And the reason Romney shouldn't be president and Obama should get another four years would be.........

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2012, 07:31:30 PM »
Got love this.    An amazing CEO is begged to take over TJE olypimcs on the brink of collapse and now 10 years later the communists are pissed off that certain formalities were not perfectly filed.  


Unfucking real.     We deserve to collapse with a communist asshole like Ghettobama at this point.  

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2012, 07:32:55 PM »
this is just starting, more to come, romney should just come clean now,just digging himself deeper  :D

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2012, 07:35:02 PM »
this is just starting, more to come, romney should just come clean now,just digging himself deeper  :D


Lol!!!     Yeah, he was so good at his job that he was begged to save the olypmics that he did and you communists attack him. 

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2012, 07:42:04 PM »

Lol!!!     Yeah, he was so good at his job that he was begged to save the olypmics that he did and you communists attack him. 

come on man come clean yourself, your no lawyer, ;D this has nothing to do with him doing a great job or the olympics,your just playing dumb ,right

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2012, 07:52:33 PM »
come on man come clean yourself, your no lawyer, ;D this has nothing to do with him doing a great job or the olympics,your just playing dumb ,right

Then what is it about?   

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2012, 07:54:07 PM »
come on man come clean yourself, your no lawyer, ;D this has nothing to do with him doing a great job or the olympics,your just playing dumb ,right

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/13/john_king_discusses_obamas_bain_allegations.html

This coming from you, who deserves and Oscar for playing dumb.

For all your blathering, you've yet to explain why ANY of this garbage means that Obama should get another four years vs. Romney taking his place.

Again, Obama: 8% unemployment (or higher) for forty-two straight months....enough said.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2012, 08:00:55 PM »
Im amazed that this gets so much conversation when the economy is tanking and job numbers are dismal.

So confused.

Must be the Obama camp desperately trying to shift focus and go on the offensive.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2012, 08:06:40 PM »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/13/john_king_discusses_obamas_bain_allegations.html

This coming from you, who deserves and Oscar for playing dumb.

For all your blathering, you've yet to explain why ANY of this garbage means that Obama should get another four years vs. Romney taking his place.

Again, Obama: 8% unemployment (or higher) for forty-two straight months....enough said.

what it shows is once again the repubs picked the wrong guy   :o

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2012, 08:08:37 PM »
"I did NOT have financial relations with that company!"  :D :D :D :D :D

now that's some funny shit

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2012, 08:09:53 PM »
Im amazed that this gets so much conversation when the economy is tanking and job numbers are dismal.

So confused.

Must be the Obama camp desperately trying to shift focus and go on the offensive.

Look at liars N frauds like 180 and blackass.     That is why we are done.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2012, 08:10:02 PM »

Romney's Got Nothing
Andrew Sullivan

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My italics. He had "no role with regards to" Bain Capital after February 1999 (a very broad statement) - except for being the CEO, and repeatedly returning to Massachusetts for board meetings of Bain-owned companies, which he "attended by telephone if I could not return".

A false SEC filing is a serious offense; to say so is not disgusting. So is potential perjury in 2002 when Romney detailed his continued involvement in Bain-owned enterprises in the period he retained the CEO title and now says he had nothing whatsoever to do with Bain. The SEC filing rules apply to everyone - except, it seems, to Romney, and his well-paid legal and accounting team. They may have so internalized this immunity from any accountability that Romney may indeed genuinely feel disgusted by being called to follow the normal rules, or called out on logical inconsistencies.

I'm getting the feeling that Romney thinks he is above the level of accountability required in a presidential candidate or even in an average ethical businessman. He seems genuinely offended to be directly challenged with facts - which he still won't address or rebut in detail. So he simply huffs and puffs and uses words like "disgusting" for a perfectly valid charge in the big boy world of presidential politics.

This does not seem to me to be like a candidate ready for prime time.

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Re: Documents: Romney didn't manage Bain funds - ANOTHER LIB LIE DEBUNKED
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2012, 08:11:17 PM »
what it shows is once again the repubs picked the wrong guy   :o

8% unemployment (or higher) for 42 straight months.....WHO picked the wrong guy again?