Lunatic kills 12 at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Colorado

[NarcissisticDeity]

Chicago, DC, Detroit?

Exactly , don't forget Maryland

Fact: In 2000, 20% of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just six percent of the population
– New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Washington, D.C. – most of which have/had a virtual
prohibition on private handguns.
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[lovemonkey]

Exactly , don't forget Maryland

Fact: In 2000, 20% of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just six percent of the population
– New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Washington, D.C. – most of which have/had a virtual
prohibition on private handguns.
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What kind of homicides are those usually? Drug deals gone bad?

[NarcissisticDeity]

So if he drove a big rig through the front door in a theater and killed 45 people.  Would they ban big rigs?

The problem is he broke so many laws already , making news ones wont change a thing. new legislation wont stop people who intend on breaking all laws , they don't follow laws.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

What kind of homicides are those usually? Drug deals gone bad?

Who knows? doesn't matter as all of those states have some of the most restrictive gun laws in this country and at the time Chicago and D.C had an outright BAN on handguns !!

Criminals don't care about laws and the only punish law-abiding people looking to protect themselves. Chicago and D.C ban guns , only criminals have them and the murder rate skyrockets

bans NEVER work

the entire country ban so-called ' assault rifles ' from 1994-2004 it was a gigantic failure that's why it wasn't renewed.

[Raymondo]

The problem is he broke so many laws already , making news ones wont change a thing. new legislation wont stop people who intend on breaking all laws , they don't follow laws.

 

So what you're saying is don't make any laws, because lunatics who break laws will break them anyway

Makes sense  

[lovemonkey]

Who knows? doesn't matter as all of those states have some of the most restrictive gun laws in this country and at the time Chicago and D.C had an outright BAN on handguns !!

Criminals don't care about laws and the only punish law-abiding people looking to protect themselves. Chicago and D.C ban guns , only criminals have them and the murder rate skyrockets

bans NEVER work

the entire country ban so-called ' assault rifles ' from 1994-2004 it was a gigantic failure that's why it wasn't renewed.

Yeah I'm not arguing whether the laws work or not, I'm just curios if those homicides are mostly gang/thug vs. thug related... which would be a good thing I guess.

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah I'm not arguing whether the laws work or not, I'm just curios if those homicides are mostly gang/thug vs. thug related... which would be a good thing I guess.

Most are drug/gang related

Then you have family members like spouses killing each other.   

[El Diablo Blanco]

You can't just freely give away guns for centuries and then say, umm no,  guns are now illegal, turn them in.  Can you picture a line of black thugs lining up in compton to turn their guns in?  Umm no way.  If anything most of these thugs would KNOW that they are less likely to get shot breaking into someone's home or robbing them on the street.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Let's ban swimming pools 

Op-ed piece on swimming pools vs. guns as the most dangerous weapon

hat’s more dangerous: a swimming pool or a gun? When it comes to children, there is no comparison: a swimming pool is 100 times more deadly.

In 1997 alone (the last year for which data are available), 742 children under the age of 10 drowned in the United States last year alone. Approximately 550 of those drownings — about 75 percent of the total — occurred in residential swimming pools. According to the most recent statistics, there are about six million residential pools, meaning that one young child drowns annually for every 11,000 pools.

About 175 children under the age of 10 died in 1998 as a result of guns. About two-thirds of those deaths were homicides. There are an estimated 200 million guns in the United States. Doing the math, there is roughly one child killed by guns for every one million guns.

Thus, on average, if you both own a gun and have a swimming pool in the backyard, the swimming pool is about 100 times more likely to kill a child than the gun is.

Don’t get me wrong. My goal is not to promote guns, but rather, to focus parents on an even greater threat to their children. People are well aware of the danger of guns and, by and large, gun owners take the appropriate steps to keep guns away from children. Public attitudes towards pools, however, are much more cavalier because people simply do not know the facts.

It takes thirty seconds for a child to drown. Infants can drown in water as shallow as a few inches. Child drownings are typically silent. As a parent, if you let your guard down for an instant, a pool (or even a bucket of water) may steal your child’s life.

The Consumer Products Safety Commission offers a publication detailing some simple steps for safeguarding pools (available on the internet at http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/359.pdf). The advice is mostly common sense. Included among the suggestions are installing fences that entirely surround the pool, putting locks on the gates, keeping house doors locked so toddlers cannot slip out of the house unmonitored, and installing power safety covers for the pool.

If every parent followed these steps, perhaps as many as 400 lives per year might be saved. This would be more lives saved than from two of the most successful safety-interventions in recent decades: the use of child car seats and the introduction of safer cribs. Potential lives saved from pool safety are far greater than from child-resistant packaging (an estimated 50 lives saved per year), keeping children away from airbags (less than 5 young children a year have been killed by air bags a year on average since their introduction), flame retardant pajamas (perhaps 10 lives saved annually), or safety drawstrings on children’s clothing (two lives saved annually). Simply stated, keeping your children safe around water is one of the single most important things a parent can do to protect a child.

As a father who has lost a son, I know first-hand the unbearable pain that comes with a child’s death. Amidst my grief, I am able to take some small solace in the fact that everything possible was done to fight the disease that took my son’s life. If my son had died in a backyard pool due to my own negligence, I would not even have that to cling to. Parents who have lost children would do anything to get their babies back. Safeguard your pool so you don’t become one of us.

[NarcissisticDeity]

So what you're saying is don't make any laws, because lunatics who break laws will break them anyway

Makes sense  

Thanks for speaking for me.  No what I am saying is we already have over 20 thousand that cover just about everything

http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=gunrights_faq#7

7. How many gun laws are there?

This depends wholly on what state you are living in. Because of our federal system of government, each state has a different set of laws regarding firearms. Some are very restrictive, others are not. There are also federal laws that apply to all of us, particularly regarding what types of weapons one can purchase, who can sell guns, and who is allowed to buy them. However, according to gun authority Bruce B. Biggs, there are roughly twenty thousand gun control-laws in the United States.

And yes pass more ' feel-good ' legislation that criminals don't ever intend to follow , makes perfect sense   

[Kulutues]

If a product exists, the consumer will get to it regardless of the law.  Governments have never been able to evaporate markets.

[lovemonkey]

Let's ban swimming pools 

Op-ed piece on swimming pools vs. guns as the most dangerous weapon

hat’s more dangerous: a swimming pool or a gun? When it comes to children, there is no comparison: a swimming pool is 100 times more deadly.

In 1997 alone (the last year for which data are available), 742 children under the age of 10 drowned in the United States last year alone. Approximately 550 of those drownings — about 75 percent of the total — occurred in residential swimming pools. According to the most recent statistics, there are about six million residential pools, meaning that one young child drowns annually for every 11,000 pools.

About 175 children under the age of 10 died in 1998 as a result of guns. About two-thirds of those deaths were homicides. There are an estimated 200 million guns in the United States. Doing the math, there is roughly one child killed by guns for every one million guns.

Thus, on average, if you both own a gun and have a swimming pool in the backyard, the swimming pool is about 100 times more likely to kill a child than the gun is.

Don’t get me wrong. My goal is not to promote guns, but rather, to focus parents on an even greater threat to their children. People are well aware of the danger of guns and, by and large, gun owners take the appropriate steps to keep guns away from children. Public attitudes towards pools, however, are much more cavalier because people simply do not know the facts.

It takes thirty seconds for a child to drown. Infants can drown in water as shallow as a few inches. Child drownings are typically silent. As a parent, if you let your guard down for an instant, a pool (or even a bucket of water) may steal your child’s life.

The Consumer Products Safety Commission offers a publication detailing some simple steps for safeguarding pools (available on the internet at http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/359.pdf). The advice is mostly common sense. Included among the suggestions are installing fences that entirely surround the pool, putting locks on the gates, keeping house doors locked so toddlers cannot slip out of the house unmonitored, and installing power safety covers for the pool.

If every parent followed these steps, perhaps as many as 400 lives per year might be saved. This would be more lives saved than from two of the most successful safety-interventions in recent decades: the use of child car seats and the introduction of safer cribs. Potential lives saved from pool safety are far greater than from child-resistant packaging (an estimated 50 lives saved per year), keeping children away from airbags (less than 5 young children a year have been killed by air bags a year on average since their introduction), flame retardant pajamas (perhaps 10 lives saved annually), or safety drawstrings on children’s clothing (two lives saved annually). Simply stated, keeping your children safe around water is one of the single most important things a parent can do to protect a child.

As a father who has lost a son, I know first-hand the unbearable pain that comes with a child’s death. Amidst my grief, I am able to take some small solace in the fact that everything possible was done to fight the disease that took my son’s life. If my son had died in a backyard pool due to my own negligence, I would not even have that to cling to. Parents who have lost children would do anything to get their babies back. Safeguard your pool so you don’t become one of us.

For some reason Freakonomics tends be relevant in a lot of these threads.

[tu_holmes]

For some reason Freakonomics tends be relevant in a lot of these threads.

I wish everyone would read and follow those guys... Shame that the nation of sheep forgot how to read more than:

cant w8 4 2nite

[Nails]

he wanted to be safe and clear from the dec. 21 2012 Zombie apocalypse

[lovemonkey]

I wish everyone would read and follow those guys... Shame that the nation of sheep forgot how to read more than:

cant w8 4 2nite

Nah, the books are a fun read but I have read way too much criticism from people "in the know" to take them seriously anymore.

They might be right about a thing or two, but they are in no way conducting groundbreaking research.

[tu_holmes]

Nah, the books are a fun read but I have read way too much criticism from people "in the know" to take them seriously anymore.

They might be right about a thing or two, but they are in no way conducting groundbreaking research.

It's not about being "right", it's about critical thinking... Looking outside the box... Seeing things from a different perspective.

There's no guarantees on a lot of things, but if you take the time to think, maybe you'll see things from a different light... That's why I appreciate them.

[Nails]

doctors probably had this dude on prozac since he was 12yrs old

[Griffith]

Yeah - lets trust the same govt who armed mexican drug cartels resulting in the deaths of 200 mexicans and 2 dead border agents to ban civilian owning of weapons. 

Sounds really smart right there.    

Not to mention the bringing in of illegal guns and drugs across their OWN borders...

And who arm 'liberation' fighters across the world while being allies with some of the worlds worst absolute monarchies and dictatorships and then working together with these regimes by arming terrorists to cause a bloodbath in order to pave the way for 'democracy'.

All the while keeping a straight face.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not to mention the bringing in of illegal guns and drugs across their OWN borders...

And who arm 'liberation' fighters across the world while being allies with some of the worlds worst absolute monarchies and dictatorships and then working together with these regimes by arming terrorists to cause a bloodbath in order to pave the way for 'democracy'.

All the while keeping a straight face.

Exactly but people who question their government are paranoid 

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Big Chiro Flex]

Why do this terrible thing and not go the suicide route?

[Soul Crusher]

Why do this terrible thing and not go the suicide route?

He should have offed himself. 

[Nails]

Why do this terrible thing and not go the suicide route?

the microchip in his brain must have been damaged during the shooting and the mind control gps device lost connection



look at those eyes, that mothafucker is wired beyond his mind, fucking eyes about to pop out of their sockets

[Shockwave]

Definitley looks a little off.

Plus the slightly lazy eye, yup. Crazy. Condemn him.

[mesmorph78]

He should have offed himself. 

agree.....
where im from the police would have shot him INSTANTLY...
no waisting time in court...
I hope he gets the gas chamber.... now this is what i like about america they dont fuck about with criminals
if he was in england they would put him in an institution where he would be looked after for the rest of his life...
food gym ps3 x box360.....TV... the only thing missing would be a woman....