seems like he doesnt know much, indeed.
i reached this level by many years of training on and off steroids,low doses, very high doses, with time off training inbetween and i would do everything the same again, it was very much worth it to me.
this idiot reclifter seems to be misinformed on what is possible naturaly and what most will get out of a cycle.he thinks with the right dosage everyone would be a coleman copy, including him.
reclifter, have you ever done steroids?if no, stfu.
actually, reclifter, seriously, DO YOU EVEN WORK OUT?dead serious question, i have my doubts about it.
hulkotron, btw, before you say im all drugs or something retarded like that, i even dwarf and outlean you when im off gear for 6 months.
hahaa yeah he's one of those guys

Lot of misinformation when it comes to juice on the internetz. People read first cycle experiences and see all these guys gaining over 20 pounds in 12 weeks and think its pure muscle tissue. That's why guys like him think that after a couple cycles they'll be the next ronnie coleman....lol.
Maybe if you've never lifted a weight in your life, far away from your genetic potential or just an extremely hyper responder will anyone see this kind of gain.
It takes some time/hard work to accomplish a physique like yours even with the help of juice and if the "recreational lifter" had any real experience with steroids he would know this.
Nothing wrong with staying natty but you have to come to terms with the fact that once you've reached that limit there will be no going past it. You wanna go beyond that you have remember that nothing in life comes without a cost....