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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #125 on: August 25, 2012, 09:13:21 AM »
You've been brainwashed spending too much time on that other site, take a step back and realize it just isn't that serious. ;)

What other site? I surf forums a lot less these days.

It is pretty serious for these athletes. Whole lives and legacies wrecked by positive drug tests.
Athletes crying like pussies when caught. Guys deciding to keep their mouths shut when questioned about drug use ending in jail. Sponsors want their money back from Lance, one sponsor wants their 5 million TdF-win bonus back. Yeah, Lance isn't sweating. How much has Lance spent on lawyers and bribes due to doping related issues? Because it isn't serious?


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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #126 on: August 25, 2012, 10:38:46 AM »
what kinda surname is Armstrong?

probably Anglo-Saxon ie. The Best of the Best 8)

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #127 on: August 25, 2012, 11:42:16 AM »
Once again for the retards....what proof is "there"?

So after passing 500-600 of the strictest, most sophisticated, random drug tests in the world of sports, he should go on Dr. Fucking Fraud Phil show and take a lie detector test to prove his undeniable innocence?

Sure.....Oprah should takeover drug testing for the Olympics, she seems kinda reputable. Fuck some of you people are chronically stupid. Seventeen fucking years later and he is still being tried and convicted in a court of public opinion without due process or a shred of physical evidence.

Meltdown.



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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #128 on: August 25, 2012, 11:42:29 AM »
Jesus fucking Christ in a chariot......

It does not matter what "you" or "I" think, it matters what can be proven in a court of law using legitimate physical evidence. A man's entire professional career is at stake. Some egotistical little prick in a taxpayer funded government agency doesn't get to decide guilt based on a biased witch hunt. There is no legitimate due process in what the USADA is doing. Of course cycling is strife with drugs, which makes the actions of the USADA and Lance's former teammates even more questionable. Tygart and the USADA need to catch a big fish to justify their continued existence - so the outcome of their kangaroo court will never be in question.

This discussion isn't about Armstrong breaking the rules of his sport during the time he competed, that has NEVER been proven. It is about seventeen years of witch hunting, and the total ignoring of the rights of a U.S. citizen by a federal government agency. Contrary to popular belief....it's still "innocent until proven guilty" in America, and for Chrissakes they've had numerous opportunities to convict and the doping charges have been dropped EVERY time.


Many people today are sitting in prison based on conspiracy to commit with absolutely no physical evidence whatsoever. Lance knows that many of his fellow ridings are lining up ready to tell the truth(to the feds if need be). I'm hearing over a dozen people are ready to swear under oath. Lance knows there was a serious shit storm coming and he is getting out of town for good before it really hits the fan.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #129 on: August 25, 2012, 11:52:06 AM »
Since the leader of the cycling mafia is finally getting his ass kicked, many of the big names(the ones that  have been kept silent due to fear of being off'ed out of the cycling world) who were hiding their secrets can now step forward and reveal the "real racing world".



It's going to get good.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #130 on: August 25, 2012, 12:18:37 PM »
If he beat worldclass athletes who were on PEDs while being natural, he must have superior, reptilian genetics. Should become an IFBB pro.

Can you imagine the pyramid shits Lance must take?  :o

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #131 on: August 25, 2012, 12:22:15 PM »

This is pretty messed up.  Lance Armstrong deserves to keep his titles.  The witch hunt continues SEVEN years after the won the titles.  Come on now.  He did not fail a drug test, and all others have dropped it after checking for years.  Even the International Cycling Association is fine with it.  Only the few people at the USADA are going crazy.


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« Reply #132 on: August 25, 2012, 12:26:47 PM »
I don't know, man. I think at that time the US was just so sick of losing to the countries with state-sponsored doping that they just let it slide. Doping by the Eastern European countries was so out of control at that time..."women" put up times that still haven't been broken 20+ years later. I mean, I have to laugh looking at the women in the sprints in the video you posted. Look at all of the white women in the sprint! Compare that to the most recent 100 meter women's final in London with far more rigorous drug testing...all the sprinters are black. FloJo just showed with all things being equal that American sprinters (particular those of African heritage) would mop the floor with any of the Eastern European women. In a similar vain, I think the witchunt against Armstrong is misguided. Of course he doped...but they all did. It was an even playing field really, and Lance was simply the best.

I'm not buying it.  She was more decorated than Marion Jones, so they were running extra test to bring her down, esp after her olympic qualifiers.  Like I said, it's more body design and training.  She was a 400 - 800 meter runner like Alison Felix.  Both adjusted their game for 100-200 meters, and have the same body, short ass torso and all legs similar to anja langer.  Also, watch their races.  Along with better endurance than natural 100-200 meter runners, they cover a lot of real estate with each stride.  I'm taking bets Felix and FloJo take the least amount of steps but cover the most ground.  You can see they both close ground with long strides vs a juiced up ben johnson with crazy steriod turnover vs carl lewis.  it's all good, since she's the best ever, even more than that swimming douche.

 


no real difference between her physique and the other girls.   



 real feminine 2012 100 meter runners, especially jeter ::)

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #133 on: August 25, 2012, 01:13:51 PM »



 
Report: Armstrong warned before all doping controls
By: Cycling NewsPublished: August 25, 19:45, Updated: August 25, 19:46

Lance Armstrong


American said to have been given time “to cover his tracks”

Lance Armstrong was “warned before all planned doping controls,” an adviser to the French anti-doping agency AFLD has said. Michel Rieu, scientific adviser to AFLD, said this was only one of the methods the American used to escape detection of his doping.

"The inspectors encountered many difficulties in making unannounced checks. Armstrong was always informed in advance, so he still had twenty minutes to cover his tracks. He could thin his blood or replace his urine. He used the EPO only in small quantities, so it was no longer there to detect. We were powerless against this way of working,” Rieu told the Le Monde newspaper.

He also claimed that Armstrong used a large network to help him with his doping, and his avoidance of positive doping controls. "Armstrong let himself  be surrounded by many physiologists. Also in the logistics field, everything was possible. The rumor was that his private jet was flying blood in from the United States.”

Armstrong was on Friday given a lifetime ban by the USADA, with all his results since August 1998, disqualified, including his seven Tour de France victories. He had chosen not to challenge doping charges which the American agency had brought against him.

French attorney Thibault de Montbrial, who defended the paper in a suit filed by Armstrong against LA Confidential authors David Walsh and Pierre Ballester, thinks the cumulative pressure of authors such as these and the SCA Promotions lawsuit that followed contributed to the downfall of Armstrong.

He also believes riders are still showing suspicious signs.

"Work together with Antoine Vayer [LeMond columnist], the performance specialist, helped show the implausibility of the power generated in watts on the climbs. Moreover, it is interesting to note that the UCI has banned the publication of such real-time statistics in 2012. And we can understand why when you see that the power production by [Bradley] Wiggins and [Chris] Froome (first and second of the Tour) is comparable to the turbulent times of the late 1990s and early 2000s."

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #134 on: August 25, 2012, 01:50:14 PM »
Can you imagine the pyramid shits Lance must take?  :o

Well, if he is a shape shifting reptilian, which he most likely is, his pyramid shits are influenced by a life form much more intelligent than humans. Thus, his pyramid shits must be of another dimension!
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #135 on: August 25, 2012, 01:54:37 PM »
Yes. The whole notion that "anything is possible" is entirely implausible. Beethoven was conducting symphonies at 5 years old. All the hard work and will in the world wont make 99.9% of the population accomplish this. As much as we do not want to admit, there are some people who are born with an innate ability for sports, arts, science, etc. We do not all possess these traits and even with all the hard work, will most likely never possess these them. We should be happy with what we can accomplish given our limitations, both physical and mental.

Exactly

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #136 on: August 25, 2012, 02:02:03 PM »
shit like this makes my blood boil

"Mr. Tygart has allegedly caught several other cyclists doping, and offered them immunity in exchange for their testimony against Lance. Shouldn't the credibility of such a witness be at least considered?"

of course they will say lance was full of peds when they dont have to do it in public. this is so fucking wrong. amazing that this fruitdick tygart can do this
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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #137 on: August 25, 2012, 02:05:10 PM »
Failing blood doping is STILL AGAINST THE RULES. And he did fail EPO. All those cyclists do that..I know marathon runners that do that.

Glad he's getting what he deserves. May the 'witch hunt' continue.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2012, 02:09:41 PM »
Because he has one nut. Which would stand to reason since thats the usual when it comes to post-cancer therapy. For God's sake, the dude had something like a less than 10% chance to live. I could careless what he was on or how much he took, he fucking lived through hell and still came back to win Tour De Frances. Even if he has one ball, most don't have have the "ball" he has.

Lance Armstrong was quoted by ET Magazine as saying "If there was a god, I'd still have both nuts."


TIME magazine Sept 29, 2003 pg 8, "10 Questions for Lance Armstrong,"
Interviewer: "For a miracleman, you're not very religious."
Armstrong: "I don't have anything against organized religion per se. We all need something in our lives. I personally just have not accepted that belief. But I'm one of the few."

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #139 on: August 25, 2012, 02:11:30 PM »
Marion Jones never had a dirty test. :)

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2012, 02:31:18 PM »
Nike got his back
PORTLAND -- Nike is standing by Lance Armstrong after the U.S Anti-Doping Agency said it will strip his seven Tour de France titles and ban him from professional cycling.

In a statement released Friday the company said:

We are saddened that Lance Armstrong may no longer be able to participate in certain competitions and his titles appear to be impacted. Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors.

Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter USADA’s arbitration process—his last option—because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years.
For now.
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2012, 02:51:42 PM »
So the nation is ok with athletes doping for the sole purpose to entertain them? Do you at least realize what is implied by what you re saying?

This is the real debate. People want to see soccer players, fottball players, hokey players, baseball players, basketball players and so on do amazing stuff constantly, to be on top everytime they turn the TV on, this is why in these billions dollars industries everyone is on PED. So what is the real problem... these people cheating while pretending they dont, or the masses that dont want them to be boring to watch, condemn them when they re exposed, but act as if nothing was going on most of the time. Fucked up society.
You`ve doped yourself up on fictitious religion (redundant, I know!) in order to entertain your fear of death and explain your social short-comings.  Whats the difference other than you are a loser living in Canada with nothing to show for it whatsoever since you don`t own anything at all.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2012, 02:54:08 PM »
What other site? I surf forums a lot less these days.

It is pretty serious for these athletes. Whole lives and legacies wrecked by positive drug tests.
Athletes crying like pussies when caught. Guys deciding to keep their mouths shut when questioned about drug use ending in jail. Sponsors want their money back from Lance, one sponsor wants their 5 million TdF-win bonus back. Yeah, Lance isn't sweating. How much has Lance spent on lawyers and bribes due to doping related issues? Because it isn't serious?


For him it may be, but for you and your "burn down sports" "false idols...bla blah" sounds like rhetoric you would hear from a certain other board.


IMO, unless he tested dirty, all those twats testifying against him are just hearsay, absolutely no proof whatsoever.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2012, 02:59:47 PM »


Nike stood by Micheal Vick, so the might as well stand behind another dipshit.


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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2012, 03:01:48 PM »
For him it may be, but for you and your "burn down sports" "false idols...bla blah" sounds like rhetoric you would hear from a certain other board.


IMO, unless he tested dirty, all those twats testifying against him are just hearsay, absolutely no proof whatsoever.

actually, it sounds like a meeting with your Parole Officer.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2012, 03:19:16 PM »
For him it may be, but for you and your "burn down sports" "false idols...bla blah" sounds like rhetoric you would hear from a certain other board.


I'm not really a sports fan myself, but sports are tremendously important in society in general. You as an American should know that. Top athletes are gods. Sports is as serious as it gets.

On that other board all posts on this topic were pro-Lance and anti-USADA. I'm not pro either but I think it's a corrupt system. The public is sold a lie.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2012, 03:47:15 PM »
actually, it sounds like a meeting with your Parole Officer.
Statistically you are 10x's more likely to have a PO than I am. :)


I'm not really a sports fan myself, but sports are tremendously important in society in general. You as an American should know that. Top athletes are gods. Sports is as serious as it gets.

On that other board all posts on this topic were pro-Lance and anti-USADA. I'm not pro either but I think it's a corrupt system. The public is sold a lie.

I'm not a sports fan either, but for any organization to claim he has done something with only hearsay evidence is bullshit.

I mean look at "g_thing", been calling me a convict for years, but I bet my record is cleaner than his. :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2012, 04:08:42 PM »
Statistically you are 10x's more likely to have a PO than I am. :)

I'm not a sports fan either, but for any organization to claim he has done something with only hearsay evidence is bullshit.

I mean look at "g_thing", been calling me a convict for years, but I bet my record is cleaner than his. :D
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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #148 on: August 25, 2012, 04:26:41 PM »
How is the latest Pantera cd.  ::)

Pantera disbanded almost ten years ago ::)

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #149 on: August 25, 2012, 04:31:02 PM »
Pantera disbanded almost ten years ago ::)

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