Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??

[Wiggs]

Gentlemen, for the sake of my time and sanity, I'll no longer argue this point. We'll have to agree to disagree...lol

[Jaime]

can you imagine the size of yates if he was as soft as rhonnie there?,, he'd be about 20lbs heavier at least, thats what you peoples forget about !!!!!!!

Ronnie always looked like a fucking marshmellow compared to Yates. I'm not Yates biggest fan but his structure from the back destroys Coleman, Ronnie had a very average/narrow structure with industrial amounts of muscle slapped on it, you are seeing that with his build now.

[OTHstrong]

Gentlemen, for the sake of my time and sanity, I'll no longer argue this point. We'll have to agree to disagree...lol

lol, Ya I am out too plus I had another debate going with you in another thread about something completely different    only on getbig.

[OTHstrong]

can you imagine the size of yates if he was as soft as rhonnie there?,, he'd be about 20lbs heavier at least, thats what you peoples forget about !!!!!!!

lol

[Parker]

No where near Dorian's density though

Bro Ronnie has got a crappy structure, it is more evident now then ever, watch him walking around the shows and you can see it for yourself, of course this can be camouflaged with a lot of muscle, but in that particular shot he looks very wierd

Ronnie had a small waist, and very good aesthetics, but once he started getting heavy, it blew his symmety and aesthetics, as the extra muscle/weight had nowhere to go. That is the karma of guys who have the small waist. Look at that pic of Dorian, Shawn and Ronnie from the back. Look at how small Ronnie's waist is relative to Dorian's, look at the shape, and see how he is closely matched up to Shawn. It's just his W African genetics. Just as Dorian's genetics have the blocky/wide waist look. Plus, he tended to walk around with his shoulders pinched back, instead of walking with his shoulders "square up".

[OTHstrong]

Ronnie had a small waist, and very good aesthetics, but once he started getting heavy, it blew his symmety and aesthetics, as the extra muscle/weight had nowhere to go. That is the karma of guys who have the small waist. Look at that pic of Dorian, Shawn and Ronnie from the back. Look at how small Ronnie's waist is relative to Dorian's, look at the shape, and see how he is closely matched up to Shawn. It's just his W African genetics. Just as Dorian's genetics have the blocky/wide waist look. Plus, he tended to walk around with his shoulders pinched back, instead of walking with his shoulders "square up".

I can agree that Ronnie had great shape to his muscle and a lot of his body parts had better shape then Yates but his structure was off

[jprc10]

Gentlemen, for the sake of my time and sanity, I'll no longer argue this point. We'll have to agree to disagree...lol

lol

[Jaime]

Ronnie had a small waist, and very good aesthetics, but once he started getting heavy, it blew his symmety and aesthetics, as the extra muscle/weight had nowhere to go. That is the karma of guys who have the small waist. Look at that pic of Dorian, Shawn and Ronnie from the back. Look at how small Ronnie's waist is relative to Dorian's, look at the shape, and see how he is closely matched up to Shawn. It's just his W African genetics. Just as Dorian's genetics have the blocky/wide waist look. Plus, he tended to walk around with his shoulders pinched back, instead of walking with his shoulders "square up".

He had a structurally small waist but his lines were horrible. He never had the aesthetics of a Buchanan, Paris, Oliva, among others. Although Dorians waist was wider, his shoulders were wider and squarer and his lat insertions better, so he looks structurally far more sound. Ronnie had a few freaky bodyparts and tons of mass on an average frame. Remember he lost to Levrone and Flex at nationals, they both looked better than him at lighter bodyweights.

[local hero]

thats what bothers me when all rhonnieys fans on here keep piping up about how he's so amazing, they totaly  look past the entire 1st half of his career

[jprc10]

Ronnie had a small waist, and very good aesthetics, but once he started getting heavy, it blew his symmety and aesthetics, as the extra muscle/weight had nowhere to go. That is the karma of guys who have the small waist. Look at that pic of Dorian, Shawn and Ronnie from the back. Look at how small Ronnie's waist is relative to Dorian's, look at the shape, and see how he is closely matched up to Shawn. It's just his W African genetics. Just as Dorian's genetics have the blocky/wide waist look. Plus, he tended to walk around with his shoulders pinched back, instead of walking with his shoulders "square up".

The only thing aesthetic about Ronnie was his small waist, but it didn't help him as his structure was not very good. Guys like Ray and Wheeler were far more aesthetic than Ronnie.
Even though Dorian's waist is slightly wider, so is his back, which actually makes him look better than Ronnie in that shot, structurally and shape wise.

[OTHstrong]

Epic backfire on posting that pic lol

Any bodybuilding judge on the planet will give the nod to Yates in that pic

[local hero]

huge backfire...... i know the point he was trying to make, as in 'look at how big his back is....'   but somehow forgetting or overlooking the fact he was like a water balloon

[RocketSwitch625]

Dorian Yates officially the G.O.A.T.

Who was the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time? Bodybuilding.com article from September 2006:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek94.htm

[jprc10]

And where is the original poster of the pic? That guy meso was saying Ronnie owned Dorian in that shot, but was rebutted and he disappeared.
That's something I've seen amongst Ronnie fans here, they say Ronnie would win against Dorian or wins a shot, etc. but never explain their points.

[local hero]

wait to hulkster reads this,,,, 100 pages later this will still be argued

[Ronnie Rep]

Ronnie always looked like a fucking marshmellow compared to Yates. I'm not Yates biggest fan but his structure from the back destroys Coleman, Ronnie had a very average/narrow structure with industrial amounts of muscle slapped on it, you are seeing that with his build now.

Have you ever seen Ronnie or Dorian in person?

[Jaime]

Have you ever seen Ronnie or Dorian in person?

Yes i fucked them both. Ronnie's glutes were more striated but he was holding water in his lower back, Dorian had more density but was lacking a bit of fullness but neither could compete with DLB in regards to pure schmoetastic muscularity and gummyness . No homo.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's from a contest where Dorian beat Ronnie  epic backfire. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

This is reality not some shot where Ronnie is closer to the camera and Dorian is off to the side, This is 1996 and Dorian is 257lbs and Ronnie is 250lbs , Dorian is wider with wider clavicles and 10X harder & drier

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly and way deeper lines

See that's the delusion of Ronnie fanboys they think Dorian is really losing that shot LMAO when the reality of the situation is Ronnie is NO WHERE near in not in density , dryness , thickness or balance & proportion

Dorian finished with straight firsts and Ronnie was SIXTH !!

[NarcissisticDeity]

The Ronnie fan boys live in a magical and special world , where facts don't exist and the Kool-aid flows like wine. A place where Ronnie is beating Dorian from the back in 96 and Dorian would be lucky to be even mentioned in the same sentence as Ronnie , where Ronnie was ' unbeatable ' and he ' dominated ' where he is the bestest ever in the whole wide world 

[El Diablo Blanco]

comparing young Ronnie to Old is just bullshit.  Young Ronnie was 15th at the Olympia, but for some fucking reason he found the drugs of Gods and turned into a mutant, that point Dorian was done but Ronnie morphed into something out of this world.  Now look at 2001-2006 Ronnie. 

[Nomad]

dumbass, that show was done on ronnie's home court, and he came in half-ass, thinking it was his show, no matter what.  i called this show the day before.  he should have stayed the fuck out of louisiana.  the red necks were going to do him in for this german white boy. &guy robbery than cutler winning in 2006.  it's amazing how branch can win shows with multiple tears and diseased looking little body, but ronnie can't defend his title vs vastly inferior white boys.

Coming from a non Caucasian that is clearly not racist at all, right?

[Parker]

This is reality not some shot where Ronnie is closer to the camera and Dorian is off to the side, This is 1996 and Dorian is 257lbs and Ronnie is 250lbs , Dorian is wider with wider clavicles and 10X harder & drier

Pose is decieving. Do the pose the Dorian is doing, you must bring your shoulders out, and flare out your elbows. This is diff than what Ronnie is doing--just standing.
Go to the mirror and do both and see the difference. you can change your illusion of width.

[bigmc]

lots of opinions with racist undertones in this thread