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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2012, 01:37:46 PM » |
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Yes, he is REALLY narrow when compared to others. But his arms and overall conditioning got him the Mr. O
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2012, 01:40:54 PM » |
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Branch is to conditioning as Richard Simmons is to muscle mass.
I just don't see it. He doesn't nor has ever come in Dexter like conditioning. He may have some striations on bis quads, which are huge, but lack detail. I don't see the dryness with Branch.
He's dry and grainy but has no detail. The drug regimen, hardcore training BS plus numerous tears and the lack of great genetics= Branch, muscle density but week detail specially in the back. But when it comes to conditioning in general, that's more than Wolf and Kai have showed recently though they should still place higher than that troll. And don't compare him to a prime Dex, just not in the same league. |
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2012, 02:02:15 PM » |
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Phil is as close to perfection as a bodybuilder will get he has no weak bodyparts at this time he is unbeatable.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2012, 02:14:56 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2012, 02:30:48 PM » |
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The guy with the best overall mass, conditioning and balance should win. Based on this, he's the worst Mr 'O ever.
Agreed. Arms over power everything, too narrow, though his conditioning is good. If he had better width, I think we would be complaining less about him  |
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2012, 02:37:52 PM » |
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2012, 02:41:53 PM » |
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Agreed. Arms over power everything, too narrow, though his conditioning is good. If he had better width, I think we would be complaining less about him His frame simply wasn't build to carry +250 pounds. He would look better as a light heavy (just like tons of other pros). |
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2012, 02:43:29 PM » |
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Kai Greene filmed for the BFTO 2012, almost 290 lbs  |
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2012, 02:56:59 PM » |
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Phil's not too narrow it's just that others were too wide
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2012, 03:02:02 PM » |
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Kai Greene filmed for the BFTO 2012, almost 290 lbs alpha black male genetics  |
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2012, 03:02:09 PM » |
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haha remember how much people talked about phil before he won the O  now he's the "perfect bodybuilder," oh brother |
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2012, 03:08:58 PM » |
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doesnt look bigger than last year.  somuch shoop potential in this pic |
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2012, 03:19:11 PM » |
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2012, 03:20:51 PM » |
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Kai Greene filmed for the BFTO 2012, almost 290 lbs OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sucks that politics will keep him from winning |
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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2012, 03:25:31 PM » |
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2012, 03:28:08 PM » |
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omfg!! Looks like a bloated frog |
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2012, 03:30:19 PM » |
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« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2012, 03:34:08 PM » |
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« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2012, 04:29:48 PM » |
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Phil- amazing upper arms and forearms but so narrow
Kai- unfort. his prev narrow waist is ruined, fridge like taper now
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« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2012, 04:34:04 PM » |
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 Glad to know he relies on the drinking fountain... not bumbling around with the 2 gallon water jug. That's cool  Looks in great condition... no homo |
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« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2012, 04:44:11 PM » |
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Absurd extensor carpi radialis longus. (that muscle that looks like Dorian's calf on Heath's upper forearm)
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« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2012, 04:46:55 PM » |
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If Phil had a few inches wider clavicles and 10 more pounds he would be the greatest ever.. But if you really look at his physique he is so flipping narrow in his bone structure and he really has average body parts besides arms.. But his shape and conditioning is great.. But if he goes the way of "I don't need to add size anymore" route it will be the beginning of the end.. Once they start training to maintain all else suffers as well..
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« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2012, 06:10:51 PM » |
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Well, I guess anyone could get bigger, but on his frame, it wont look good. He doesnt have the skeletal structure to carry mass like ronnie. It will eventually look like shit.
Of course he will get bigger...its the IFBB way. So yes, it will happen. Phil will continue to add weight, develop a gh belly and end his career looking like shit. |
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« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2012, 06:52:23 PM » |
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Right now phil is the best
Kai is big ... mind blowing big in person but phil has a better shape, better physique, and the best condition of the top guys
great delts and arms.. inspiring arms...
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