Heath and Kai have surpassed everyone in the 90s except Dorian and Ronnie.

[EH]

Prove me wrong

1. Ronnie, 98 Mr. O. or the Grand Prix show.
2. Dorian 96 Grand Prix
3. Heath 12 Mr. O(Night show)
4. Kai 12 Mr. O Night show.
5  Mr. O. Wheeler 93 Arnold Classic
6. Levrone 97 Grand Prix

Watch the video of the night show. Kai and Heath have taken shit to new levels. The conditioning is insane. This is special.

http://streaming.bodybuilding.com/2012-olympia-webcast/?q=mr-olympia-finals-routines-replay-2

1. Ronnie '03 MrO
2. Ronnie '98 MrO/NOC
3. Dorian '95
4. Levrone '97 Grand Prix
5. Flex '99 Mr O
6. Flex '98 Arnold
7. Heath '11 MrO
8. Vic Martinez '08 MrO

[hazbin]

before giving opinion on this, everyone should google 1999 british grand prix.   ronnie, kevin, flex, nasser, marcus. all amazing.

and if its because of the lighting, then why don't they hire that lighting guy for the olympia and the arnold.

dexter was in this contest, the same size and condition as now, and he looked tiny next to these guys.  yet he compares well size wise to heath and kai

[Jaime]

Dorian 93,96, Kevin 97. Vic 07, Ray, 93,94, flex 93,96, Ron 98,99 all surpass Kai and Phil, numerous other occasions too.

Someone like Dillet would make Phil and Kai look like pre schoolers.

[SF1900]

Dorian 93,96, Kevin 97. Vic 07, Ray, 93,94, flex 93,96, Ron 98,99 all surpass Kai and Phil, numerous other occasions too.

Someone like Dillet would make Phil and Kai look like pre schoolers.

sure, from the back he sucked. but this pic would make little phil heath non existent

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian 93,96, Kevin 97. Vic 07, Ray, 93,94, flex 93,96, Ron 98,99 all surpass Kai and Phil, numerous other occasions too.

Someone like Dillet would make Phil and Kai look like pre schoolers.

as much as I like Kevin's, Shawn's and Flex's physique in their prime, they would lose to the 12 Mr. O versions of Phil and Kai. The latter two men are just too big and conditioned for the older crop of bodybuilders.

[johnny1]

as much as I like Kevin's, Shawn's and Flex's physique in their prime, they would lose to the 12 Mr. O versions of Phil and Kai. The latter two men are just too big and conditioned for the older crop of bodybuilders.

Im not so sure there as in their Superior size would be a advantage, Kai and phil have Poses where they look outstanding and others woeful in Comparison to that Group just mentioned, Kai or Phil cannot Match a Prime Ray or Levrone in the Ab/thigh Both Kai and Phil have Trouble controlling their Mid sections carrying all that extra Muscle and Both those 2 get their Posing routines outs of a weeties box compared to the other 3 who actually could Control their Transitions holding their Stomachs in etc, Flex's back @ his best Comparable to ether of them, Rays BDB @ his Best is as Conditioned as ether of those 2 in 2012, Rays MM is nearly as Complete as it got Balance wise etc etc, Ray Never had Trouble beating Guys 50-60lbs Bigger nether did flex with Yates the exception, id see no reason why with the now Superior advances in Drugs etc they wouldn't have the same Results against ether Phil or Kai in 2012....both of those 2 are Great and in Certain Pose's Exceptional... but those 2 are not exactly a Prime Coleman or Yates Ray, flex, etc had to contend with in the 90s

[cheftim]

I believe if Kai had had shoulders level in this pose, it would be arguably one of the best pics in BB history. Very inspirational. Unbelievable show!

[johnny1]

I believe if Kai had had shoulders level in this pose, it would be arguably one of the best pics in BB history. Very inspirational. Unbelievable show!

Yip Kai looks Outstanding in that shot, thing is with Him is hes Inconsistent one year he looks Incredible....the next not so....he looked Great @ the 2012 Olympia however if you Compare say his ab/thigh, MM, etc to the year 09 or 10 he looked Bigger with outrageous Condition, if he ever Nails his Conditioning and size as one..... im not 100% sure if this mm was from 2010 or 11, whatever the case he looked alot fuller here with Crazy Condition too boot compared to 2012

[NeoSeminole]

Im not so sure there as in their Superior size would be a advantage, Kai and phil have Poses where they look outstanding and others woeful in Comparison to that Group just mentioned, Kai or Phil cannot Match a Prime Ray or Levrone in the Ab/thigh Both Kai and Phil have Trouble controlling their Mid sections carrying all that extra Muscle and Both those 2 get their Posing routines outs of a weeties box compared to the other 3 who actually could Control their Transitions holding their Stomachs in etc, Flex's back @ his best Comparable to ether of them, Rays BDB @ his Best is as Conditioned as ether of those 2 in 2012, Rays MM is nearly as Complete as it got Balance wise etc etc, Ray Never had Trouble beating Guys 50-60lbs Bigger nether did flex with Yates the exception, id see no reason why with the now Superior advances in Drugs etc they wouldn't have the same Results against ether Phil or Kai in 2012....both of those 2 are Great and in Certain Pose's Exceptional... but those 2 are not exactly a Prime Coleman or Yates Ray, flex, etc had to contend with in the 90s

Kevin Levrone and Shawn Ray would get absolutely destroyed by a prime Kai

[TK]

Incredible picture from the 2012 Olympia

[Jadeveon Clowney]

Incredible picture from the 2012 Olympia

lol his traps have no room

[Wiggs]

Incredible picture from the 2012 Olympia

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