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« Reply #150 on: October 11, 2012, 09:25:04 PM »


Biden did what Obama didn't do....he got in the 47% comment Romney makes, made Paul Ryan admit to asking for stimulus money, cut him off in conversation, mocked him, laughed at his comments, and made some nasty unanswered backhand remarks.

I know that. Unfortunately for the left, that 47% comment has had virtually NO EFFECT on Romney, as it relates to his surge. As Charles Krauthammer put it last week, Romney destroyed hundreds of millions of dollars of Obama attack ads in a span of 5 minutes, during their debate.

As for Ryan taking stimulus money, he works for his constituents. They ASKED for the stimulus and, what a surprise  Roll Eyes , the lion's share of it went to Obama's cronies in the public sector, particularly the unions. Very little went to the private sector.

The liberals keep deluding themselves into thinking the 47% comment will sink Romney's campaign. It's done nothing of sort. And if 3 of 4 polls I've seen to date have Ryan winning, DESPITE Biden's nastiness, that's more money and political capital down the drain for Team Obama.

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« Reply #151 on: October 11, 2012, 09:26:42 PM »

hahaha your base should already be fired you you dip shit, ITS 3 WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!!

youre vying for the undecided voters

speaking of the neighborhood drunk, how much you been drinking tonight?

I read earlier today (or technically yesterday) that Obama is trying to rally BLACK voters in North Carolina. Since WHEN did Obama need to pump the African-American masses?

When Obama has to energize a demographic that would normally vote for Satan himself, if a "D" is by his name, you KNOW he's got major problems.
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« Reply #152 on: October 11, 2012, 09:29:14 PM »

I read earlier today (or technically yesterday) that Obama is trying to rally BLACK voters in North Carolina. Since WHEN did Obama need to pump the African-American masses?

When Obama has to energize a demographic that would normally vote for Satan himself, if a "D" is by his name, you KNOW he's got major problems.

What obama has done to black americans is cRIMINAL!   

I truly feel bad for good decent black people who were conned by obama.   I know many.  He lied to to them in 2008 and put them in an untennable position 
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« Reply #153 on: October 11, 2012, 09:33:23 PM »

What obama has done to black americans is cRIMINAL!   

I truly feel bad for good decent black people who were conned by obama.   I know many.  He lied to to them in 2008 and put them in an untennable position 

Have you heard what the left-winged goofies did to actress Stacey Dash, who supports Romney now but voted for Obama in 2008?
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« Reply #154 on: October 11, 2012, 09:36:00 PM »

Have you heard what the left-winged goofies did to actress Stacey Dash, who supports Romney now but voted for Obama in 2008?

Yes - and guess what - made two donations asap - mia love and allen west.   

Funny too - West & love are the only two i am donating to this election. 



Allen West is to me the ideal person EVER to run and Mia Love is awesime 
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« Reply #155 on: October 11, 2012, 09:54:18 PM »

Speaking time: Biden 41mins 32secs / Ryan 40mins 12secs

How many times did each candidate say "fact" or "facts"? Biden 28 times; Ryan once.



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« Reply #156 on: October 11, 2012, 09:55:59 PM »

Speaking time: Biden 41mins 32secs / Ryan 40mins 12secs

How many times did each candidate say "fact" or "facts"? Biden 28 times; Ryan once.





Like a moron you kneepad Biden.   Par for the course.
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« Reply #157 on: October 11, 2012, 09:56:07 PM »

Speaking time: Biden 41mins 32secs / Ryan 40mins 12secs

How many times did each candidate say "fact" or "facts"? Biden 28 times; Ryan once.




Lol, 100 dollars says that Ryan actually spit more facts than Biden, just judging from people I know.
Generally when someone says "fact" in relation to their comments, they are in fact, not facts.
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« Reply #158 on: October 11, 2012, 09:56:21 PM »


Independent voters will go whatever they go.....at this point, its best to get your base fired up.

Wrong....no...incorrect. ..not the way to go.  If you're "firing up your base" at this point you're toast.  Besides...polling suggests that majority of voters have made up their minds and not open to changing them..it's the late undecideds and leaners who'll decide this race (as they usually do) coming off as the drunk, loud uncle and alienating the people you have to get to fall your way is suicide
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« Reply #159 on: October 11, 2012, 10:09:29 PM »

Romney got Billy Graham's blessing today during a swing through NC...Graham's pledge to "do whatever I can to help you " should bolster Romney's standing with conservative christians who may have been hesitant to support Romney on religious grounds...

NC ad FL were Obama's best hopes to win a soouthern state (although I don't how "southern" FL really is).  Neither look good for him right now...
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« Reply #160 on: October 11, 2012, 10:26:28 PM »

240's posts lately are worse than ever.  The level of kneepadding has gotten even beyond anything i thought he was capable of. 


your ability to be objective is nonexistent
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« Reply #161 on: October 11, 2012, 10:47:57 PM »

240's posts lately are worse than ever.  The level of kneepadding has gotten even beyond anything i thought he was capable of. 

i hope romey wins this election.  but i can be honest with myself that ryan underachived tonight.  Biden shouldn't have kept it this close.  Biden is the biggest joke in american politics.   period. 

I admitted obama was demolished in debate #1.  is that kneepadding?
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« Reply #162 on: October 11, 2012, 11:55:36 PM »

i hope romey wins this election.  but i can be honest with myself that ryan underachived tonight.  Biden shouldn't have kept it this close.  Biden is the biggest joke in american politics.   period. 

I admitted obama was demolished in debate #1.  is that kneepadding?

Ryan underachieved? Really? I thought his performance was pretty damn good.
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« Reply #163 on: October 12, 2012, 05:22:31 AM »

Ryan underachieved? Really? I thought his performance was pretty damn good.

It was good, not great.

My point is that he's among the smartest in the GOP.  Biden is highly revered as a damn fool.

it shouldn't be close enough that we're arguing if it's a tie or not.  Ryan should have trampled him.

If you put chris christie up there - woah - biden is still looking for his false teeth this morning lol.

Ryan did a fine job, and probably didn't do any damage - biden told some whoppers (particularly about benghazi), but ryan did also, about the middle class deductions (impossible to cut debt that much without going after them).   Biden outlied him for sure. 


I think it's the eiptome of the 2012 election Underachievement. 


Romney should have whooped that field, not needed to outspend santorum 6-to-1 to win.
Romney should be up by 12 points nationally against a failure like obama.
Paul Ryan should have wrecked a mess like Biden.

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« Reply #164 on: October 12, 2012, 05:31:56 AM »

Ed Gillespie on morning joe - refusing to accuse biden of LYING about the request for more security for embassy.

This is the PERFECT CHANCE to attack obama/biden for ignoring their request for more help - we KNOW they asked for more security.

come on romney, grow a pair!
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« Reply #165 on: October 12, 2012, 05:33:24 AM »

240 is a fucking loser and a weasel.
This is your toughest thread ever.

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« Reply #166 on: October 12, 2012, 05:36:10 AM »

hahaha your base should already be fired you you dip shit, ITS 3 WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!!

youre vying for the undecided voters

speaking of the neighborhood drunk, how much you been drinking tonight?
Ooh, you really got him good there.

I like this post because it shows what a tough guy you are.

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« Reply #167 on: October 12, 2012, 06:29:23 AM »

Lol, 100 dollars says that Ryan actually spit more facts than Biden, just judging from people I know.
Generally when someone says "fact" in relation to their comments, they are in fact, not facts.

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« Reply #168 on: October 12, 2012, 06:32:58 AM »

Ooh, you really got him good there.

I like this post because it shows what a tough guy you are.



Let it go already.
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« Reply #169 on: October 12, 2012, 06:46:19 AM »

Fact Check: Top Ten Worst Lies by Joe Biden in VP Debate

by Joel B. Pollak

12 Oct 2012, 5:28 AM



Once again, Joe Biden lied his way through a Vice Presidential debate--just as he did in his contest with Sarah Palin in 2008. This time, the media caught a few of Biden's worst "malarkey" moments--as did his opponent, Paul Ryan, when he could get a word in edgewise.
 
Here are the top ten worst lies told by Biden during the debate:
 
10. "With all due respect, that’s a bunch of malarkey....not a single thing he said is accurate." At the outset of the debate, Biden tried to paint Ryan as a liar--when Biden, in fact, was the one lying. Ryan had pointed out: 1) that the White House had distanced itself from the Cairo embassy's apologies on 9/11; 2) that Obama had failed to speak up for Iranian protestors in 2009; 3) that the Obama administration called Syria's dictator a "reformer"; 4) and that the Obama administration is imposing defense cuts and projecting weakness. All of that is true.
 
9. "The president has met with Bibi [Netanyahu] a dozen times....This is a bunch of stuff." While they have met several times--not a dozen--that includes a meeting at which Obama made the Israeli prime minister enter the White House through a back entrance, refused to take a picture with him, and left him on his own for dinner. Specifically, Ryan had criticized Obama's refusal to meet Netanyahu in New York last month, and to tape talk show interviews instead--a clear snub that sent the wrong signal, again, to Israel's enemies.
 
8. "Just let the taxes expire like they’re supposed to on those millionaires." Biden's "millionaires" are actually households earning more than $250,000 a year, which includes many middle-class families with two earners, and small business owners in particular who report business earnings as personal income. Biden and Obama have repeatedly labeled those earning over $250,000 as "millionaires and billionaires," distorting the actual impact of their tax plan on the non-millionaires it would hit hardest, who create a vast proportion of small business jobs.
 
7. "You know, I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin. It seems that every vice presidential debate, I hear this kind of stuff about panels." Biden's cheap shot against Palin was an attempt to diminish both her and the man sitting across from him. But Palin never talked about "death panels" in her debate with Biden, for the simple reason that Obamacare had not yet been proposed. Nor did Ryan mention "death panels"--he had addressed the undeniable fact that Obamacare proposes a board to impose cost controls.
 
6. "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for." Biden's lie about Ryan's budget was an attempt to dodge responsibility for lax embassy security--and to cover up that the Obama called for new cuts to embassy security just days after the 9/11 attacks. Ryan's proposal, which called for a 19% overall decrease in non-defense discretionary spending, does not even mention embassy security--the Obama campaign merely made up that number by applying 19% across the board.
 
5. "No, they are not four years closer to a nuclear weapon." Biden's attempt to lie about the glaring reality of the Iranian nuclear program fell flat. Iran is indeed four years closer to a nuclear weapon, and the Obama administration--believing it knew better than its predecessors--tried to reinvent the wheel on talks with Iran, causing frustration to our allies in Europe and the Middle East. Meeting after meeting this year has failed to produce results, and the loophole-filled sanctions, while hurting Iran somewhat, are not stopping its nuclear program.
 
4. "No religious institution, Catholic or otherwise...has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact." No, it is not a fact--it is the opposite of a fact, and saying "that is a fact" does not make it any less a blatant lie. The Obama administration is forcing religious institutions to provide contraceptive and abortion drugs through their insurance policies. That is the reason several dozen religious institutions are suing the administration to defend their First Amendment freedom of religion.
 
3. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card...I was there. I voted against him." Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. He did not vote for George W. Bush's plan to extend coverage of Medicare to prescription drugs (though he voted for an earlier, similar proposal), nor did he vote for the Bush tax cuts. But he voted for both of the wars he derided last night. To quote Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention: "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."
 
2. "What we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back -- applied it to Medicare." Biden repeated the lie the Obama administration has been telling since before Obamacare passed in 2010: that cuts to Medicare today were savings that extend the life of the program. They would be--if the same $716 billion wasn't also being used to pay for Obamacare. As Ryan pointed out in 2010, and again last night, you can't double-count the same cuts. Taking $716 billion out of Medicare means exactly that--and hurts, not helps, the program's solvency.
 
1. "Well, we weren’t told they wanted more security again." Biden lied through his teeth about the fact that the administration--specifically, the State Department--had been told again and again that security on the ground in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular, was inadequate. The day before, in Congressional hearings on the Libya attacks, former regional security director Eric Nordstrom described his frustration with having those requests turned down by the government bureaucracy: "For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building."
 
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« Reply #170 on: October 12, 2012, 09:57:07 AM »

Let it go already.
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