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« on: November 01, 2012, 12:20:02 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 01:03:49 PM »

so how lean do you need to be before starting

absolutely dieted down? or just "lean"

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 01:12:24 PM »


wrong! you can easily see that he's gained some mass

edit: not that he looks any better  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 01:15:50 PM »

Dude is retarded - he looks way softer. Probably added a brutal fat/water combo that will further enhance his ILS.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 01:26:52 PM »

Looks better before!

This chap should have used test prop plus winny
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 02:23:08 PM »

The tan in the after pics adds to the illusion of having gained muscle.

In reality, he seems to have gained about 0 pounds, 0 pounds of muscle, but also 0 pounds of weight. I see no difference not taking into account the tan.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 02:32:13 PM »

That's the smallest 248 pounder I've ever seen.   I'm calling BS!  No way that's 248lbs unless he's 6'7"
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 02:33:02 PM »

he looks like a bigger version of his old self. I don't see how that's bad. He didn't magically transform his body composition but he grew thicket/bigger even though it may appear not that obvious in the pix unless u pay attention. He did gain some fat and bloat its obvious by his face too but...
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 02:38:11 PM »

So gay
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 02:44:11 PM »

That's the smallest 248 pounder I've ever seen.   I'm calling BS!  No way that's 248lbs unless he's 6'7"

this.

i thought that straight away. he said he is 6' 2 so tall but still doesn't look close to 250lb at 6' 2.
maybe BSing about 39lb gain too
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 02:47:49 PM »

Where are the 39lbs ?  In his hemorrhoids maybe.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 02:58:28 PM »

That's the smallest 248 pounder I've ever seen.   I'm calling BS!  No way that's 248lbs unless he's 6'7"

My first thoughts exactly.

Doesn't look that tall from the before photos, average height at best. Either way, looks like shit and should take up a new pursuit.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 03:03:04 PM »

Wtf @ all the compliments of "insane results mate".
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2012, 03:10:03 PM »

Wtf @ all the compliments of "insane results mate".

Probably the dudes who sell home brewing kits.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2012, 03:11:31 PM »

he looks like a bigger version of his old self. I don't see how that's bad. He didn't magically transform his body composition but he grew thicket/bigger even though it may appear not that obvious in the pix unless u pay attention. He did gain some fat and bloat its obvious by his face too but...
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This^^^ AAS just makes you a bigger version as you were prior to starting. Muscle shape and what not will not magically change. And the guy was plenty lean before starting with a good start point. He gained some fat and water, but you guys saying he just looks "bloofy" are holding him to too high a standard. In another week when he drops some water he will look much better. I think the kid did good.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 03:14:27 PM »

He looks the same to me, perhaps holding a little more water.  Maybe he forgot to train.

He also looks extremely unintelligent in the face.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 03:20:06 PM »

wrong! you can easily see that he's gained some mass

edit: not that he looks any better  Undecided


That's not a  39 pound difference I can guarantee that much.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 03:21:47 PM »


That's not a  39 pound difference I can guarantee that much.

Haha shit I missed the "39 pounds" part, no fucking way.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 03:28:33 PM »

things like this make me have second thoughts about starting roids

if you really need to be blasting grams a week to get big and lean

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Diet half of what u look like bud
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 03:33:41 PM »

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This^^^ AAS just makes you a bigger version as you were prior to starting. Muscle shape and what not will not magically change. And the guy was plenty lean before starting with a good start point. He gained some fat and water, but you guys saying he just looks "bloofy" are holding him to too high a standard. In another week when he drops some water he will look much better. I think the kid did good.

He is not bigger... at all.
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2012, 03:36:54 PM »

Steroids are not magical muscle-creating elixirs, sometimes I feel like there is this perception that they're like synthol except the muscle is real.  "Studies show" that if you take steroids and don't work out at all you will gain some muscle but it's a very small amount.  If you take steroids and work out exactly the same and eat exactly the same as when you were not taking steroids I suspect you will look almost exactly the same, which seems to be the case with this fellow.
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2012, 03:39:28 PM »

He is not bigger... at all.

Maybe not 39 pounds bigger, but he definitely gained size, be it muscle,fat or water. If you can't see he is bigger, you need your eyes checked.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 03:43:26 PM »

Epic water bloat.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 03:48:06 PM »

Maybe not 39 pounds bigger, but he definitely gained size, be it muscle,fat or water. If you can't see he is bigger, you need your eyes checked.

Can someone put the pictures alongside and on here?

By the way, who are you to disagree with me? Were you not informed I am the local Führer? One click from me and your ass will get some good ol' Zyklon-B gas.
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 03:54:23 PM »

Here is the problem. A leaner version of oneself in a picture always looks bigger and better, so he was leaner at the start so you guys are comparing pictures of a guy that is lean to a picture of him with an added 15 lb of fat and water, so it will not look as impressive. I suspect out of the 39 lb he gained 24 lb of muscle, now if he sheds those 15 lb you guy will realize that he did gain a lot after all.
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