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« on: November 06, 2012, 08:56:01 PM »

Or the death of the Republican Party?  Seems like the time is ripe for there to be some serious third option, as the Democrats will never change, but there needs to be another party to keep them in check.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 08:59:14 PM »

Or the death of the Republican Party?  Seems like the time is ripe for there to be some serious third option, as the Democrats will never change, but there needs to be another party to keep them in check.
We should start our own Party , Ron Avidan for president.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 09:01:21 PM »

Yes a getbig party could "do damage".
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 09:03:53 PM »

Wiggs on the ticket would draw all of the pertinent minorities. Throw in a dime piece tranny as VP candidate, and we've got this thing sewn up. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 04:47:05 AM »

Libertarian and socialist are's needed.

Won't happen though, the people that actually own america won't let it happen.

It's amazing how naive people are to this. Unless you got some folks with some serious dollars, who aren't afraid to loose some powerful friends, there will never be 3rd party politics.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 05:12:06 AM »

Or the death of the Republican Party?  Seems like the time is ripe for there to be some serious third option, as the Democrats will never change, but there needs to be another party to keep them in check.

Great idea, split the conservative vote to moderates and tea partiers

20 years of democratic government

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 05:27:32 AM »

capitalism leads us straight to hell
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 06:47:53 AM »

Great idea, split the conservative vote to moderates and tea partiers

20 years of democratic government

See Canada genius  Tongue

Hey man, it may be the sign of the times. Our thought process is not with that of the populous. It seems whether you like it or not, our society is changing.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 11:55:53 AM »

Republicans just need to get in a time machine and go back to pre 1980 before the time when they let fundies (and much later tea baggers) hijack their party and also before the time when they believed that tax cuts paid for themselves

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 12:04:15 PM »

Republicans just need to get in a time machine and go back to pre 1980 before the time when they let fundies (and much later tea baggers) hijack their party and also before the time when they believed that tax cuts paid for themselves



As I said to Adonis, the Dems didn't go compromise or go back to a time before they left liberals (and much later neo-socialists) hijack their party. They went far left.

Therefore, the call is going to be for the GOP to go far right.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 12:06:53 PM »

As I said to Adonis, the Dems didn't go compromise or go back to a time before they left liberals (and much later neo-socialists) hijack their party. They went far left.

Therefore, the call is going to be for the GOP to go far right.

You think them dem is far left Huh

Have you ever been outside the US Mcway?
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 12:11:59 PM »

You think them dem is far left Huh

Have you ever been outside the US Mcway?

Yep!
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 12:15:33 PM »

Yep!

So how can you say they are left?

Compared to what?
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 12:17:01 PM »

As I said to Adonis, the Dems didn't go compromise or go back to a time before they left liberals (and much later neo-socialists) hijack their party. They went far left.

Therefore, the call is going to be for the GOP to go far right.

Todays Dems are probably closer to the ideological ground of early 1980 repubs

Saying the dems are too far to the left is just another one of those fairy tales that Repubs like to tell each other
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 12:19:16 PM »

Todays Dems are probably closer to the ideological ground of early 1980 repubs

Saying the dems are too far to the left is just another one of those fairy tales that Repubs like to tell each other

Not even close. Those Dems got sacrificed in 2010 for standing against ObamaCare.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 12:22:23 PM »

Not even close. Those Dems got sacrificed in 2010 for standing against ObamaCare.

So you believe  the centrist dems were in voted out in 2010?
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 12:22:33 PM »

Todays Dems are probably closer to the ideological ground of early 1980 repubs

Saying the dems are too far to the left is just another one of those fairy tales that Repubs like to tell each other

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 12:27:16 PM »

no 3rd party.   

but i think the repubs will oust either the moderates, or the extreme far right people who make embarassing headlines.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 12:34:18 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 12:35:07 PM »

Todays Dems are probably closer to the ideological ground of early 1980 repubs

Saying the dems are too far to the left is just another one of those fairy tales that Repubs like to tell each other

Haha, nice joke. As polling consistently shows, the majority of Americans fall along more moderate lines than most of the Dems in Congress.

If this wasn't the case, then why are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the two leaders of the Dems in Congress, also the most hated members of said Congress (as polling shows)?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 12:47:24 PM »

Rush just agreed that a moderate is a lib who is ashamed to admit it.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 12:49:35 PM »

Haha, nice joke. As polling consistently shows, the majority of Americans fall along more moderate lines than most of the Dems in Congress.

If this wasn't the case, then why are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the two leaders of the Dems in Congress, also the most hated members of said Congress (as polling shows)?  Roll Eyes

Yeah that makes a lot of sense as usual

The dems are far left yet they were overwhelmingly voted into or back into office by a moderate electorate
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 12:56:15 PM »

Haha, nice joke. As polling consistently shows, the majority of Americans fall along more moderate lines than most of the Dems in Congress.

Don't let you partisan blinders dictate what you see. The majority of Americans fall along more moderate lines than most of the dopes we have up in Congress. Even when stirred into a partisan frenzy by pundits the fact is that most of us still fall in the somewhere between slightly-left and slighty-right, very often depending on the particular topic that's in question.


If this wasn't the case, then why are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, the two leaders of the Dems in Congress, also the most hated members of said Congress (as polling shows)?  Roll Eyes

There's plenty of reasons why that would be observed, beyond the simple fact that Pelosi and Reid are dumbasses. A big one might be the fact that they are the public face of the Democrats in Congress, and they are the ones most often attacked by pundits, which raises their profile substantially; couple that with the fact that most Americans are unlikely to be able to name more than a handful of members of Congress beyond Reid, Pelosi and Boehner, and it becomes quite evident why the effect you describe might be observed.

Besides with the approval ratings of Congress as low as they are does it really matter? Americans have disdain for anyone up in D.C. right now.
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