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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2012, 09:27:57 AM »

Do you understand what socialism is?

its clear from his earlier posts he doesn't. he thinks socialism is some form of private business regulatory system, when in fact socialism is an economic ideology that doesn't believe in private enterprise in the first place.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2012, 02:09:51 PM »


the point of socialism is not the acquisition of wealth

socialism works

welcome to canada

your concept of socialism appears to be..... capitalism?
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2012, 04:09:39 PM »

Capitalism allowed guys like Bill Gates, Ted Turner and Warren Buffet to become extremely rich and powerful. And now these three men(among others) are using their money and power to impose depopulation agenda(agenda 21) on the world. Regardless what you think of the depopulation movement, something just doesn't seem right that men like this would be the ones heading the charge. These people are absolutely cut throat in the business world. A win at all cost attitude.


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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2012, 04:22:32 PM »

I just don't buy the whole redistribution of wealth school of thought. I know most here are reasonably intelligent folks and think that the real reason people are poor is because some robber baron at the top is holding everybody down, but that's not the truth. Some people are not as intelligent and are meant to be ditch diggers/burger flippers etc. It's not pretty, but it is the truth. I get that you may feel sorry for people that you deem underprivileged, but most are there because of their own poor decisions. I get it, but life is just not fair, and you can't restrict/hinder someone else because you don't want a class gap to develop.
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2012, 04:25:45 PM »

Yea bill gates? The guy spending hundreds of millionz to help save the lives of people in Africa, is trying to depopulate the world
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2012, 04:36:18 PM »


the point of socialism is not the acquisition of wealth
socialism works

welcome to canada

Exactly,  I don't know why people think they ever have to be a billionaire. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2012, 04:39:02 PM »

Yea bill gates? The guy spending hundreds of millionz to help save the lives of people in Africa, is trying to depopulate the world

Putting these people on a pedestal because of the amount of money they are spending is dangerous imop
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2012, 04:40:13 PM »

Exactly,  I don't know why people think they ever have to be a billionaire.  

They're sociopaths who want to rule the world. When we see a human who weighs 500+ pounds, we see that the person is mentally sick. Can't stop eating etc. No different imop with people who never have enough.
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2012, 04:50:22 PM »

Its not about the money its about the support of a cause. If your actively putting slot of effort into something, I find it less likely your going to he consciously putting effort into another cause that is coontee productive to the first
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 05:01:39 PM »

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, former IMF head and Socialist Party member seeking France's presidency, was staying at the ritzy Sofitel New York Hotel in NYC when allegations arose that he had sexually assaulted a maid.  This socialist was staying at a room that cost nearly $3000 a night.  Some socialist.
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2012, 05:03:24 PM »


the point of socialism is not the acquisition of wealth

socialism works

welcome to canada

Canada doesn't even matter on the map

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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2012, 05:30:35 PM »

Canada doesn't even matter on the map

Hope this helps

 Grin Reminds me of that pic that says at the bottom "how Texas sees the rest of the world" and shows Texas, then the rest of the US is labeled as "Canada"
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2012, 05:37:09 PM »

your concept of socialism appears to be..... capitalism?

moderate socialism allows for capitalism.... with lots of regulation and taxation


Canada doesn't even matter on the map

Hope this helps

we live happier lives than american'ts... that's all that matters


Grin Reminds me of that pic that says at the bottom "how Texas sees the rest of the world" and shows Texas, then the rest of the US is labeled as "Canada"

texas is a nice state full of awful people...

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« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2012, 05:46:10 PM »

That last clip of Gates is mildly unsettling...

"With the help of new vaccines, health care, and reproductive services, we can lower that (population) by 10-15%" - Straight from Bill Gates' mouth.

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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2012, 05:48:44 PM »

Canada doesn't even matter on the map

Hope this helps
Lol as if anyone up here cares. When the internet age hit people stopped giving  fuck about the states.
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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2012, 05:56:35 PM »

The problem isn't capitalism, it is corporate greed .
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« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2012, 06:12:41 PM »

The problem isn't capitalism, it is corporate greed .
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2012, 06:40:54 PM »

moderate socialism allows for capitalism.... with lots of regulation and taxation


we live happier lives than american'ts... that's all that matters


texas is a nice state full of awful people...




Hey don't talk about walker texas ranger that way aka chuck norris Angry
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2012, 03:39:22 AM »

They're sociopaths who want to rule the world. When we see a human who weighs 500+ pounds, we see that the person is mentally sick. Can't stop eating etc. No different imop with people who never have enough.

I wonder if the 80,000 or so Bill Gates employed would agree? wealth creators are also job creators
Pure socialism is completely at odds with human nature, we are naturally competitive ,socialism takes away the carrot(wealth) to compete. Rather than drag those at the bottom up it drags everyone down to the bottom.


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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2012, 03:53:41 AM »

Good point conker.

Bank executive receives what the media would portray as disproportionate 1m bonus.

He goes home and tells his wife, (who naturally delays her plans to leave him for a few months at least) and she suggests they go out to buy the new bentley continental and 100k diamond necklace she wanted.

On the way to the jewelry store, they pop into the travel agents and buy a 10k holiday to barbados.

The bentley salesman is over the moon when they drive off the forecourt with their new 250k car, and he rings his wife to give her the good news that he's reached his commision target this month and has an extra 2000 so they can get the extension to the back of their house.

While the bank executive is getting a well earned BJ from his wife on the driveway, the car salesman is phoning a local builder to get a quote on the building work to his home, they agree a price of 5000 for the work to be done.

1 week later and the work is completed, their new playroom looks lovely and they spend 500 on a new PC for the kids to use in their new space.

The builder goes home and throws 5000 cash on the table, and his wife's eyes light up immediatley. Before she can utter a word, he places his finger over her lip and whispers "Yes sweetheart, that makes 20,000 we can afford the downpayment on our first mortgage with Halifax bank, i'll call the adviser in the morning"

"Why don't we get a takeaway tonight honey, what do you fancy?"

"Let's get indian" she replies.

30 minutes later a young indian appears at the front door with the food, and they generously tip him 20 and tell him to have a drink on them tonight.

Little do they know, he needs that 20 for a better reason than a drink. He finishes his last delivery at around 12:30am and heads home to get a well earned rest, but before he turns out the light to sleep he sends a text to his cousin simply reading "Don't worry about groceries this week, i'll drop some round in the morning my treat".

DONT TELL ME CAPITALISM IS BULLSHIT YOU GREEDY FREELOADING MOTHERFUCKERS.
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2012, 01:56:35 PM »

That last clip of Gates is mildly unsettling...

"With the help of new vaccines, health care, and reproductive services, we can lower that (population) by 10-15%" - Straight from Bill Gates' mouth.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

There are quite a few Doctors who won't use certain vaccines on their children. Dr. Oz is one of them however he never really comes out and says that. He says he stays out of it and leaves it up to his wife who is against it.
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2012, 02:00:47 PM »

Good point conker.

Bank executive receives what the media would portray as disproportionate 1m bonus.

He goes home and tells his wife, (who naturally delays her plans to leave him for a few months at least) and she suggests they go out to buy the new bentley continental and 100k diamond necklace she wanted.

On the way to the jewelry store, they pop into the travel agents and buy a 10k holiday to barbados.

The bentley salesman is over the moon when they drive off the forecourt with their new 250k car, and he rings his wife to give her the good news that he's reached his commision target this month and has an extra 2000 so they can get the extension to the back of their house.

While the bank executive is getting a well earned BJ from his wife on the driveway, the car salesman is phoning a local builder to get a quote on the building work to his home, they agree a price of 5000 for the work to be done.

1 week later and the work is completed, their new playroom looks lovely and they spend 500 on a new PC for the kids to use in their new space.

The builder goes home and throws 5000 cash on the table, and his wife's eyes light up immediatley. Before she can utter a word, he places his finger over her lip and whispers "Yes sweetheart, that makes 20,000 we can afford the downpayment on our first mortgage with Halifax bank, i'll call the adviser in the morning"

"Why don't we get a takeaway tonight honey, what do you fancy?"

"Let's get indian" she replies.

30 minutes later a young indian appears at the front door with the food, and they generously tip him 20 and tell him to have a drink on them tonight.

Little do they know, he needs that 20 for a better reason than a drink. He finishes his last delivery at around 12:30am and heads home to get a well earned rest, but before he turns out the light to sleep he sends a text to his cousin simply reading "Don't worry about groceries this week, i'll drop some round in the morning my treat".

DONT TELL ME CAPITALISM IS BULLSHIT YOU GREEDY FREELOADING MOTHERFUCKERS.

What's the endgame of Capitalism?
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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2012, 04:01:20 PM »

Without private property there can be no private life - Benjamin Tucker

Without private property "the people" become the new tyrannt". - Leo Tolstoy

Voluntary association is the only path to freedom.  Taxation is force.  Government is force.
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« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2012, 05:06:14 PM »

Without private property there can be no private life - Benjamin Tucker

Without private property "the people" become the new tyrannt". - Leo Tolstoy

Voluntary association is the only path to freedom.  Taxation is force.  Government is force.



Ted Turner owns over 2,000,000(million Shocked) acres of land in America. This is a guy who wants to cut 1/3rd of the population today.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313607,00.html
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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2012, 05:12:07 PM »



Ted Turner owns over 2,000,000(million Shocked) acres of land in America. This is a guy who wants to cut 1/3rd of the population today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner

He also gave 1 Billion dollars to the United Nations years ago. At the time, that was 1/3 his wealth. hmmm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner
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