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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2012, 07:26:52 AM » |
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Is that his speech at the Nobel prize awarding ceremony  |
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2012, 07:32:34 AM » |
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Wiley Coyote-super genius
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 07:37:23 AM » |
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I have read his "Nautilius Bulletin #1" and he is clearly missing several facts which are crucial to optimise your training.
First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads. That is not true due to:
- central nervous system adaptations required to control heavier weight
- building balance through adapting supporting muscles
Also, increasing muscular strength through constant attempts to best your previous results is suboptimal. In order to increase strength CNS must be your primary concern, not hypertrophy. Adaptation of CNS through deloads, progression and periodization is crucial for maximum strength.
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2012, 08:06:18 AM » |
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First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads.
this isn't true he prescribed that one keep the rep range @ 6-20 reps, and for upper body to keep the rep range @ 6-12 reps, and he also said that one can go as low as 4 reps (occasionaly), but to be very careful with that, because of the increased likelyhood of injury due to using heavier training loads |
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 08:38:30 AM » |
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this isn't true
he prescribed that one keep the rep range @ 6-20 reps, and for upper body to keep the rep range @ 6-12 reps, and he also said that one can go as low as 4 reps (occasionaly), but to be very careful with that, because of the increased likelyhood of injury due to using heavier training loads
It has nothing to do with what I stated. |
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2012, 08:44:47 AM » |
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It has nothing to do with what I stated.
how do you figure? you said... "by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads" AJ was all about increased training loads, that was his major gospel in fact |
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2012, 09:02:32 AM » |
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One system out of many. it all comes down to genetics, they ultimately determine how big you will be
AJ was a smart guy who marketed his product very wisely
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2012, 09:04:28 AM » |
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how do you figure?
you said... "by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads"
AJ was all about increased training loads, that was his major gospel in fact
You haven't read what he wrote, have you? He stated that after reaching point of strength when increasing loads becomes dangerous you should start increasing repetitions to achieve more strength. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2012, 10:13:41 AM » |
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Hmm... so Jones could have been a liar too?
Everyone lies, that's a given when it involves humans  |
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2012, 10:41:45 AM » |
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I've always liked AJ. I don't know if he was a genius, but he was definitively very smart in a training world full of dumb asses.
I've read plenty of his writings and they definitively influenced the way I train.
Good video.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2012, 03:04:18 PM » |
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looks like a turd
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2012, 04:01:12 PM » |
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2012, 04:42:59 PM » |
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deceiver and dj, two studs discussing "what aj really said" with 0 references between them
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2012, 11:35:02 PM » |
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Bodybuilding is the ultimate prisoners dilemma, the perfect Liars Game.
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2012, 11:58:15 PM » |
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deceiver and dj, two studs discussing "what aj really said" with 0 references between them
it's Ironical for me, because I used to think dj181 was the biggest moron on this site, until I had the pleasure of "debating" deceiver for a bit, and he revealed an even more idiotic view of life |
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2012, 12:29:37 AM » |
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he did say that
he said humans are rotatory animals
and there for barbell weightlifting movements destroy your skeleton
and the only safe way is nautilus equipment
What he said is Humans need nautilus machines, because he doesn't get paid if you buy a barbell |
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2012, 03:01:52 AM » |
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A throw back to the Industrialists of the 19th century such as Williams Randolph Hearst in that Arthur Jones earned huge sums of money and spent huge sums of money.
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2012, 03:33:19 AM » |
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one of greatest guys ever
more education listening to him than 10 phd
he went in school to 9th grade but then was self educated
make 100s of millions
steroid and weider idiots continue to sell protein powder and other shit 7 day 4 hour workouts and magazines
most money in shows goes to weider idiots not to the guy who lifted
stanrdards of course goto max size roids protein guy no longer to in shape symmetry guy like arnold or serge
sell sell sell
arthur just told it as it is
his only mistake was marraige
I wish there were more vids of arthur I couldnt find this one b4 thanks for posting
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2012, 04:39:38 AM » |
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one of greatest guys ever
more education listening to him than 10 phd
he went in school to 9th grade but then was self educated
make 100s of millions
steroid and weider idiots continue to sell protein powder and other shit 7 day 4 hour workouts and magazines
most money in shows goes to weider idiots not to the guy who lifted
stanrdards of course goto max size roids protein guy no longer to in shape symmetry guy like arnold or serge
sell sell sell
arthur just told it as it is
his only mistake was marraige
I wish there were more vids of arthur I couldnt find this one b4 thanks for posting
no worries mate, when i find more i'll post them up as well 7 of his immediate family members were medical doctors you should read his autobiography "and God laughs" great stuff there  |
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2012, 11:45:32 AM » |
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Did Aurthor Jones have any sons?
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« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2012, 11:50:26 AM » |
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Did Aurthor Jones have any sons?
i think that he had 2 his son Gary invented the Hammer machines |
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« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2012, 11:59:11 AM » |
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i think that he had 2
his son Gary invented the Hammer machines Nice. I was just checking- I went to several of Gary's seminars and have been to the "shop". He's a good dude. He has some great Dad stories.  |
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« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2012, 12:25:21 PM » |
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Nice. I was just checking- I went to several of Gary's seminars and have been to the "shop". He's a good dude. He has some great Dad stories. cool man are you able to share some of those stories with us? |
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« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2012, 12:28:01 PM » |
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cool man are you able to share some of those stories with us? I'll simply say that Gary and Author DID NOT get along. . . or at least that's the way it sounds when Gary talked about "lawsuits" etc. |
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