Israel vs. Hamas

[tbombz]

thank you for representing my idea correctly shockwave. 

ahmed,  there is a difference between spiritual idealism (religion) and physical pragmatism (rational behavior). 

when you start to speak about god and religion, we are speaking about the realm of spiritual idealism.  in that place, where we talk about the after life and eternal justice/salvation as if we are absolutely certain that they exist, then we no longer view "death" as a bad thing. we no longer view the evils and oppression committed by sinners as something to fight against with violence.  we now view death as the entrance into gods kingdom and thus welcome it with open arms. we now view the behavior of sinners as sorrowful and taking into account god's own handling of the situation (obviously laizzes faire) we should imitate gods actions and let them sin and kill and oppress as they wish. and show them love as they do it


when we start to speak about the physical world, we now enter the realm of pragmatism and self preservation and viewing death as the end of life. in this real, we now see self defense and utilitarianism as righteous and necessary.


do not mix up these two ideaologies.

[tbombz]

if you wish to know the nature of god, look to the sun.  it shines just as brightly on the murderers as it does on the saints.  if you turn your back and close your eyes and ignore and blaspheme the sun for 20 years, when you decide to turn back around and open your eyes there the sun will be still shining as brightly as ever. if you decide to plot against the sun and cover the entire earth from its brightness, it will continue to shine on as if you were loving it with all your heart.


that being said, consider the difficulties found within defining what violence is acceptable when you adopt the philosophy that violence in self defense and against oppression is acceptable.  what exactly constitutes a threat to your self, what exactly constitutes oppression?  i think youll find that once you adopt this philosophy you will easily be able to rationalize that violence for just about any reason concievable is acceptable.