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« Reply #250 on: October 11, 2017, 11:58:35 AM »

SF i dont particularly like you or your viewpoints but youre entitled  to them. why are you even in this thread? we know how you feel about guns. believe it or not im not agun nut. im fairly middle of the road o n gun control.... but i spent most of my life growing up in detroit and its far worse than the media lets on. where i grew up these precautions were a response to everyday events the happened in the nieghborhood. one of my buddies was shot and killed right in front of me. 9 or 10 of my friends were robbed at gunpoint. 4 or 5 of my frieds were involvex in shootings , meaning an exchange of gun fire, me included. my nieghbor killed a guy on his front lawn during a bar b Q. i dont know where you live or what enviroment you were raised in but i can tell thats this kind of inner city life is common in detroit, chicago and parts of new york it is totally foreign to you. you will never understand it. that is why you mock it - "we mock what we dont understand".

ESF, is that you?   Huh
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« Reply #251 on: October 11, 2017, 12:05:55 PM »

Yes, and yet a lot of college idiots have been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is evil and communism is righteous.

Our country is becoming more and more socialist by the minute because people refuse to accept the lessons of history.

the quality of life is most of these socialist leaning countries far outweigh america's

denmark,finland, netherlands,canada, sweden, norway, ireland, new zealand,belgium
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« Reply #252 on: October 11, 2017, 12:09:06 PM »

the quality of life is most of these socialist leaning countries far outweigh america's

denmark,finland, netherlands,canada, sweden, norway, ireland, new zealand,belgium

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« Reply #253 on: October 11, 2017, 12:55:59 PM »

the quality of life is most of these socialist leaning countries far outweigh america's

denmark,finland, netherlands,canada, sweden, norway, ireland, new zealand,belgium

Did you notice that you just named a bunch of countries that are pretty much all white people?
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« Reply #254 on: October 11, 2017, 01:38:21 PM »

I really do not care if you like me or my viewpoints. With that regard, you truly do not know my viewpoints on most issues, as I rarely discuss them here.

How do I feel about guns? I go skeet and target shooting with my friend all the time. Further, you realize this thread got bumped because I asked getbig what handgun I should get for home protection? My post is on page 5.  Thus, I support gun ownership by law abiding citizens, but I am also not a gun nut.

Reply #123: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=452773.100

Ummmmmm, I was born and raised in NYC and went to an all black high school, which is/was overrun by bloods, crips, and latin kings. I hung out on Jamaica Avenue and Sutphin Blvd in Queens (look them up). It is currently the 2nd worst ranked highschool in NYC. Even when I attended it, it was a horrible high school. I also did part of my training in South Central LA, working in gang ridden areas. So, please, tell me again, how foreign this environment is to me? lol.  But, hey, whatever you have to tell yourself about me.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy So, basically, your whole statement about me is false. I hope you're not this big of a dope in real life.  Undecided Undecided

hey look no hard feelings allright. the Jay picture was pretty funny but since you're  gonna resort to name calling......

i dont care enoug about you to tell myself anything about you. NYC is a different animal than Detroit. there are still loads of great nighborhoods in NYC. high priced nieghborhoods, real estate through the roof. Even with the masssssive difference in population Detroit has more murders ( im pretty sure at a flat rate too not per capita) by far. dont tell me about high school or that you "hung out" on Jamaica Ave. what a joke. thats your street cred? that you "hung out" on Jamaica Ave. so you and some of your candy ass friends drove down there one night to buy a bag of weed? Lol. great. my wife and all her girls "hung out" in Jamaica queens all the time when she lived in NY. LOL im gliad you survived to tell us about it. maybe you and my woman can get together with her girlfriends a compare notes on how tough it was "hanging out" on Jamaica Ave. if you had any street sense at all you wouldnt be asking getbiggers what kind of gun to get for home protection. but since you did- you can read my post again.
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« Reply #255 on: October 11, 2017, 04:12:45 PM »

hey look no hard feelings allright. the Jay picture was pretty funny but since you're  gonna resort to name calling......

i dont care enoug about you to tell myself anything about you. NYC is a different animal than Detroit. there are still loads of great nighborhoods in NYC. high priced nieghborhoods, real estate through the roof. Even with the masssssive difference in population Detroit has more murders ( im pretty sure at a flat rate too not per capita) by far. dont tell me about high school or that you "hung out" on Jamaica Ave. what a joke. thats your street cred? that you "hung out" on Jamaica Ave. so you and some of your candy ass friends drove down there one night to buy a bag of weed? Lol. great. my wife and all her girls "hung out" in Jamaica queens all the time when she lived in NY. LOL im gliad you survived to tell us about it. maybe you and my woman can get together with her girlfriends a compare notes on how tough it was "hanging out" on Jamaica Ave. if you had any street sense at all you wouldnt be asking getbiggers what kind of gun to get for home protection. but since you did- you can read my post again.

You stated that those environments were totally foreign to me: you were wrong. Then, you change by saying, "NYC is a different animal than Detroit" after I asserted that those types of neighborhoods were not foreign to me. Then, you assume that you know how often I hung out in those neighborhoods and with who. Wrong again. I hung out practically every day in those neighborhoods, as well as different neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Harlem. Either way, you were wrong, you just don't want to admit. You made an assumption about me and likely assumed I grew up in a small town in Arkansas with 100 white people (just an example). No matter what I say, you're going to try and discredit me. You didn't hang out there long enough, you didn't hang out with this person, blah, blah, blah. Like most kids in big cities, I've seen similar stuff as you. Does it give me street credit? Nope, not at all. I am 36. I dont want street credit. I mean, how old are you? lol. I never said it did give me street credit. It just proves you wrong that those neighborhoods are foreign to me by providing you with anecdotal evidence. Nothing more, nothing less.

As for having street sense, of course I have street sense, just in different ways. I am 36 now. At my age, does it really matter what area I hang out in? Even if I learned about guns during my younger days, its not something that would stick me. Further, there have been gun advances in the last, say, 20-25 years, thus asking for gun advice.

Ill most likely go with a standard 9 millimeter glock.
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« Reply #256 on: October 11, 2017, 04:42:03 PM »

so heres how SF's time in the streets went....

SF: hey boys if we're going to this party tonight we should bring some weed. my friend Jamal from my social justice class sells weed on Jamaica Ave.

candy asses: Gulp, Jamaica Ave!!!??? are you serious we could get kkkkkilled.

SF: relax, I grew up on the streets. i know how to handle this. Crips used to go to my high school.

candy asses: yeah but your parents sold the house and you moved to Staten Island the next day.

SF: shut up! thats not the point. I know what Im doing. Jamals my main man. I hang out with him all the time.

a few minutez later on Jamaica Ave.....

SF: hey check out those girls over there. they're pretty hot.

candy asses: oh I wouldnt mess with them if I were you. that one is dating a real bad ass from Detroit.

SF: (getting more frustrated) stop it. how many times do i have to tell you Im a product of the streets.

candy passes:(in unison) yeah yeah yeah... we know.

a few minutes later....

SF: hey look theres my boy Jamal.

SF what up Jamal, can I get a dime bag?

Jamal: shut the fuck up white boy! dont ever use my real fucking name when im doing work. thats 20 bucks.

SF: but i asked for a dime bag.

Jamal: i said give me 20 then get the fuck out of here.

SF: OK buddy rwenty it is. thanks, see you monday at class.Thanks again.

later at the party

SF: so like I was telling you my hood is hard as fuck. i hangout on Jamaica Ave all the time.

lolololololo hahahahaha lolololololo......

sorry dude I didnt recognize you wsrent one to be triffled with. My apologies. forgive me please next time I wont makes so many false assumptions.
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« Reply #257 on: October 11, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »

so heres how SF's time in the streets went....

SF: hey boys if we're going to this party tonight we should bring some weed. my friend Jamal from my social justice class sells weed on Jamaica Ave.

candy asses: Gulp, Jamaica Ave!!!??? are you serious we could get kkkkkilled.

SF: relax, I grew up on the streets. i know how to handle this. Crips used to go to my high school.

candy asses: yeah but your parents sold the house and you moved to Staten Island the next day.

SF: shut up! thats not the point. I know what Im doing. Jamals my main man. I hang out with him all the time.

a few minutez later on Jamaica Ave.....

SF: hey check out those girls over there. they're pretty hot.

candy asses: oh I wouldnt mess with them if I were you. that one is dating a real bad ass from Detroit.

SF: (getting more frustrated) stop it. how many times do i have to tell you Im a product of the streets.

candy passes:(in unison) yeah yeah yeah... we know.

a few minutes later....

SF: hey look theres my boy Jamal.

SF what up Jamal, can I get a dime bag?

Jamal: shut the fuck up white boy! dont ever use my real fucking name when im doing work. thats 20 bucks.

SF: but i asked for a dime bag.

Jamal: i said give me 20 then get the fuck out of here.

SF: OK buddy rwenty it is. thanks, see you monday at class.Thanks again.

later at the party

SF: so like I was telling you my hood is hard as fuck. i hangout on Jamaica Ave all the time.

lolololololo hahahahaha lolololololo......

sorry dude I didnt recognize you wsrent one to be triffled with. My apologies. forgive me please next time I wont makes so many false assumptions.

I've never smoked marijuana a day in my life. I always considered smoking to be something grotesque.

Thus, your story is not even remotely close.

Beakdoctor: Yo, man, I grew up in detroit. I got mad street credit.
Guy: But, you grew up in the good area of detroit.
Beakdoctor: Yo, DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT!!
Guy: What have you experienced?
Beakdoctor: Yo, I saw a friend get shot.
Guy: Um, I know of that shooting and it was a bibigun.
Beakdoctor: YO, yo, DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT! I saw a buddy of mine get shot, for real.
Guy: Yeah, that didn't happen. I heard that your friend got his wallet picked and the guy ran.
Beakdoctor: Yo, you don't know where I grew up in. DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT! I was robbed at gunpoint! Straight up!! DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT!
Guy: I know the guy that robbed you. He approached you, pushed you to the ground and stole your wallet.
Beakdoctor: I got mad STREET CREDIT STILL!! DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT!!
Guy: So, basically, all of these minor events that have happened to you, have happened to a lot of inner city kids. Great!!
Beakdoctor: YO, DETROIT, DETROIT, DETROIT!!
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« Reply #258 on: October 11, 2017, 04:53:17 PM »

hey i dont know you at all. maybe i got you all wrong. its Getbig. just fucking around. no hard feelings.
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« Reply #259 on: October 11, 2017, 04:55:54 PM »

hey i dont know you at all. maybe i got you all wrong. its Getbig. just fucking around. no hard feelings.

Well, for all I know, your stories are total bullshit.

For all you know, I did grow up in a small town in Arkansas.

And yes, it's getbig, after all.
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« Reply #260 on: October 11, 2017, 05:05:16 PM »

you know what though......

 Seeing a buddy get shot and killed is not a minor incident. (well maybs in your neck of the woods)  just because people get robbed and shot everyday doesnt make it meaningless or "minor."

by th way your story wasn't good....at all.
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« Reply #261 on: October 11, 2017, 05:09:50 PM »

you know what though......

 Seeing a buddy get shot and killed is not a minor incident. just because people get robbed and shot everyday doesnt make it meaningless.

by th way your story wasn't good....at all.

Of course my story was good.

Like you said, this is getbig, after all. For all I know, your stories could be total lies and I could be lying about parts or all of my story.

I really don't care what you experienced in Detroit. You chose to divulge that you lived in Detroit and seemed quite proud of it! You chose to tell me you lived in Detroit because I posted a picture of Jay Cutler lol. Strange! Anyway.....
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« Reply #262 on: October 11, 2017, 05:37:27 PM »

Of course my story was good.

Like you said, this is getbig, after all. For all I know, your stories could be total lies and I could be lying about parts or all of my story.

I really don't care what you experienced in Detroit. You chose to divulge that you lived in Detroit and seemed quite proud of it! You chose to tell me you lived in Detroit because I posted a picture of Jay Cutler lol. Strange! Anyway.....

i dont expect you to care about me or my experiences. Having a cavalier or dismissive attitude about violent crime  lets me know it was never anything you had to worry about.....

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« Reply #263 on: October 11, 2017, 05:45:40 PM »

i dont expect you to care about me or my experiences. Having a cavalier or dismissive attitude about violent crime  lets me know it was never anything you had to worry about.

You were dismissive about my experience (you even wrote a "funny" skit about it), hence I gave it right back to you. Don't whine when someone dishes it back to you.

Again, all I did was post a picture of Jay Cutler and you went into this tirade about how you're from Detroit.  Huh Huh
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« Reply #264 on: October 11, 2017, 05:51:18 PM »

hey man you're the guy online asking about guns and home safety. i give you a solid response and you mock me with Cutler pic. i gave you some background on me figuring you might go back and re-read my post and learn something. i should've known that was pointless because your a dumbass white liberal with no life experience who already knows everything.
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« Reply #265 on: October 11, 2017, 05:52:54 PM »

Beakdoctor schooling sf on what it means to be OG. Grin
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« Reply #266 on: October 11, 2017, 05:55:23 PM »

Beakdoctor schooling sf on what it means to be OG. Grin

Not what you said via text.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #267 on: October 11, 2017, 05:58:44 PM »

hey man you're the guy online asking about guns and home safety. i give you a solid response and you mock me with Cutler pic. i gave you some background on me figuring you might go back and re-read my post and learn something. i should've known that was pointless because your a dumbass white liberal with no life experience who already knows everything.

Hmmm, more attacking, because you attacked me first, then I give it back to you, then you cry that I am being dismissive.

Yes, I read your statement and was posted the Cutler pic as a joke. Geez, get a drip dude. That pic is posted tons of times on here whenever we discuss war or guns here. Again, a joke.

You don't know anything about my life experience, nor my beliefs or ideals. I didn't care to know anything about you, but you chose to share some life experiences in response to a comical Jay Cutler pic. Geez.  Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #268 on: October 11, 2017, 06:10:05 PM »

best to have several different guns hidden through out the house...... you never know where you're going to be when someone comes through the door.

also its of benefit to have diffefent types of knives,  pepper sprays and/or batons stashed around as well. they are cheap and easy to obtain and could give you an added advantage.

revolvers dont malfunction....ever.  but have limited firing capacity.

semi autos offer greater firing capacity and are easier to reload but can malfunction , if gun is jerked during the firing cycle stove pipes double feed, coil springs break etc... and those kinds of things happen under stress: being in a shootout is much different than shooting at the range...
shltguns are also a good option. ability to shoot and kill through drywall, doors. powerfull advantage and relatively inexpensive option for a long gun of course gun nuts love their AR's.....

you also have to consider your backstop especially if you have children in the home. limited penetration expanding rounds are available but you shouldnt pull the triger unless you know exactly what your shooting at anyway so why use the most lethal round. limited penetration rounds are questionable. dont have to worry as muc about your backstop but it could allow the target to survive. if you know what you're shooting at and justified in doing so then you want to shoot kill and end it quickly.

best advice is to reinforce your doors and windows use larger screws in the frames and hinges, thicker glass etc.own a large dog too... it wont stop someone but it will slow them down long enough to muster and arm your family.

Revolvers do malfunction.  Hope this helps. 
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« Reply #269 on: October 11, 2017, 06:16:17 PM »

hint: take care of them and load the correct round. hppe this helps.
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« Reply #270 on: October 11, 2017, 06:21:26 PM »

Revolvers do malfunction.  Hope this helps.  

So, you're basically insinuating that someone with all this street credit (beakdoctor) does not know anything about guns by providing me with wrong information? haha lol.

And, yet, he told me that I would know about guns if I had street credit, yet he is giving me wrong information about guns.  Cheesy Cheesy

From an article: "Revolvers Donít Jam & Other Firearms Myths."

This is why I love getbig!! Everyone is a badass expert from the streets who knows everything, until they get proven wrong.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks Twaddle. I would not buy a revolver anyway.
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« Reply #271 on: October 11, 2017, 06:27:08 PM »

So, you're basically insinuating that someone with all this street credit (beakdoctor) does not know anything about guns by providing me with wrong information? haha lol.

And, yet, he told me that I would know about guns if I had street credit, yet he is giving me wrong information about guns.  Cheesy Cheesy

From an article: "Revolvers Donít Jam & Other Firearms Myths."

This is why I love getbig!! Everyone is a badass expert from the streets who knows everything, until they get proven wrong.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks Twaddle. I would not buy a revolver anyway.

Revolvers are simple tools, but they are not unfailing.  They can malfunctions just like any other firearm.  If beakdoktor thinks revolvers can't malfunction, he is mistaken.  I've had both Ruger and S&W revolvers malfunction. 
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« Reply #272 on: October 11, 2017, 06:30:20 PM »

Revolvers are simple tools, but they are not unfailing.  They can malfunctions just like any other firearm.  If beakdoktor thinks revolvers can't malfunction, he is mistaken.  I've had both Ruger and S&W revolvers malfunction. 

Well, I just watched quite a few youtube videos of people demonstrating how revolvers can in fact jam in certain ways.

But, I guess there are a multitude of ways that a gun can malfunction: jamming being one way.
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« Reply #273 on: October 11, 2017, 06:33:32 PM »

Well, I just watched quite a few youtube videos of people demonstrating how revolvers can in fact jam in certain ways.

But, I guess there are a multitude of ways that a gun can malfunction: jamming being one way.

Correct.  If you're truly serious about getting a firearm for the house, go to your local gun range, and rent several pistols and revolvers.  Decide what you like best, and what you shoot the easiest. 
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« Reply #274 on: October 11, 2017, 06:38:30 PM »

So, you're basically insinuating that someone with all this street credit (beakdoctor) does not know anything about guns by providing me with wrong information? haha lol.

And, yet, he told me that I would know about guns if I had street credit, yet he is giving me wrong information about guns.  Cheesy Cheesy

From an article: "Revolvers Donít Jam & Other Firearms Myths."

This is why I love getbig!! Everyone is a badass expert from the streets who knows everything, until they get proven wrong.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks Twaddle. I would not buy a revolver anyway.

yep thats exactly what hes saying and thats why hes wrong. if hes had not one but two revolvers malfunction then he doesnt know what hes doing. he either doesnt know how to take care of it, shoot it pr load it. of course nothing is infallible but it is highly unusual for revolvers to malfunction. if yors malfunction repeatedly, lord only knows how the fuck youre handling them.......so SF please take your advice from the guy whose guns always malfunction. you two make a good team.

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