I have no obsession with anyone just like to keep things real and I expected more from you. I explained myself when it came to others calling the shots for another to hang it up, that was my argument. You can't tell a bodybuilder when to quit. that is up to him/her.
You said he was being an asshole, what did I say? no argument there, that was my response so I can care less about the guy, I am not defending him I am calling out the shit talkers and forgive me for saying so but say Dana L Bailey is stronger then Wong is shit talking. You could have said he is weak for a bodybuilder that size, but no you had to say a girl is stronger then him, that is simply hating no matter how you slice it. Anyway I am not interesting in debating you as you are one of the best posters here and contribute a great deal, but just different views I guess.