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Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« on: January 04, 2013, 03:34:08 AM »
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-01/dci-smv010213.php

Some men voice complaints of shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment

Perceived reduction in penis size linked to regrets of treatment choice

BOSTON – A small percentage of men in a prostate cancer study complained that their penis seemed shorter following treatment, with some saying that it interfered with intimate relationships and caused them to regret the type of treatment they chose.

Complaints were more common in men treated with radical prostatectomy (surgical removal of the prostate) or male hormone-blocking drugs combined with radiation therapy, according to the study by researchers from Dana-Farber/Brigham and Women's Cancer Center (DF/BWCC). No men reported a perceived shortening of their penis following radiation therapy alone.

The study's findings, which are being published in the January issue of the journal Urology, are based on surveys completed by physicians of 948 men treated for prostate cancer and who had suffered a recurrence of the disease.

Twenty-five men (2.63 percent of the group) complained of smaller penises after treatment – 3.73 percent for surgery, 2.67 percent for radiotherapy plus androgen deprivation therapy (ADT), and 0% for radiotherapy alone. Radiotherapy included both radiation administered by an external x-ray machine, and brachytherapy – the implantation of radioactive seeds directly into the prostate.

The scientific team, led by Paul Nguyen, MD, a radiation oncologist, and medical student Arti Parekh, said it is the first study to link men's perceptions of a reduction in penis size to lowered life satisfaction, problems in emotional relationships, and misgivings about the specific form of prostate cancer treatment they chose.

Nguyen said that the potential side effect of a smaller penis is well-known among physicians and surgeons, said Nguyen, "but it's almost never discussed with patients, so it can be very upsetting to some men when it occurs. Patients can deal with almost any side effect if they have some inkling ahead of time that they may happen."

The report's authors said physicians should discuss the possibility with their patients so that they can make more-informed treatment choices.

There were no direct measurements of penis size either before or after treatment, said the researchers. Nor did the patients' physicians specifically ask about this side effect; the issue was brought up by patients in conversations with their doctors. For this and other reasons, the authors of the new study suggest that the problem is likely more common than reported in the survey.

"Prostate cancer is one of the few cancers where patients have a choice of therapies, and because of the range of possible side effects, it can be a tough choice," said Nguyen. "This study says that when penile shortening does occur, it really does affect patients and their quality of life. It's something we should be discussing up front so that it will help reduce treatment regrets."

The likelihood and magnitude of penis shortening as a consequence of treatment have not been well studied, said the researchers. However, Jim Hu, MD, a surgeon at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center and a co-author of the study, said "Previous studies have concluded that there is shortened penis length following prostatectomy. This is most common with non-nerve sparing surgery, as this may result in fibrosis and atrophy of erectile tissue due to damage to nerve and vascular structures." The present study did not find much difference on that score.

The study's subjects were men enrolled in a registry called COMPARE that collects data on patients whose prostate cancer shows signs of recurring after initial treatment. Of the 948 men in the study, 22 percent were younger than 60 and the majority were in their 60s, 70s and 80s. Just over half – 54 percent – had undergone surgery to remove their cancerous prostate, while 24 percent received radiation therapy combined with hormone-blocking treatment, and 22 percent had radiation therapy alone.

In an editorial comment accompanying the report, Luc Cormier, MD, PhD, of Dijon University Hospital in France said the study "is really of interest because of the number of patients and that it included other treatment methods in addition to radical prostatectomy."

The surveys of the men did not report on their sexual functioning. Cormier observed that "sexual activity needs to be thoroughly measured owing to the obvious relationship with the patients' perception of penile length."

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 03:36:41 AM »
I think Primemuscle went through this.  Maybe he can elaborate.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 03:38:10 AM »
I have noticed Coach's head is smaller recently, maybe he can give us the first hand details

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 03:44:20 AM »
Penises will be extinct in the near 150 years. Enjoy it while you can(no homo).



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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 03:55:05 AM »
I have notice Coach's head is smaller recently, maybe he can give us the first hand details

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 03:55:55 AM »
I think Primemuscle went through this.  Maybe he can elaborate.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 04:37:33 AM »
How many guys get testosterone blocking drugs due to prostate enlargement or cancer yet you still have guys doing steroids past 50. Remember anabolic steroids were created to avoid the adrogen problems of straight testosterone. In the late 50's and early 60's the Russians had so many weight lifters who had trouble urinating because of an enlarged prostate due to testosterone use. Dianabol the first anabolic steroid was created to retain and enhance the anabolic properties of testosterone and mitigate the androgen properties.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 04:41:53 AM »
How many guys get testosterone blocking drugs due to prostate enlargement or cancer yet you still have guys doing steroids past 50. Remember anabolic steroids were created to avoid the adrogen problems of straight testosterone. In the late 50's and early 60's the Russians had so many weight lifters who had trouble urinating because of an enlarged prostate due to testosterone use. Dianabol the first anabolic steroid was created to retain and enhance the anabolic properties of testosterone and mitigate the androgen properties.

can you elaborate on your thoughts here?  would any of this affect the shortened penis issue? (no homo)

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 05:32:21 AM »
I have notice Coach's head is smaller recently, maybe he can give us the first hand details

Haha yes coach is quite the nobhead!

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 05:54:05 AM »
How many guys get testosterone blocking drugs due to prostate enlargement or cancer yet you still have guys doing steroids past 50. Remember anabolic steroids were created to avoid the adrogen problems of straight testosterone. In the late 50's and early 60's the Russians had so many weight lifters who had trouble urinating because of an enlarged prostate due to testosterone use. Dianabol the first anabolic steroid was created to retain and enhance the anabolic properties of testosterone and mitigate the androgen properties.

yes please elaborate. sounds interesting.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 06:07:28 AM »
some men, like me, wished their penis was somewhat smaller, for those back pains from carrying the weight arent fun.

its all relative

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 06:28:20 AM »
Shortened crank versus dying from cancer...I can live with shorter given those options!

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 06:34:18 AM »
some men, like me, wished their penis was somewhat smaller, for those back pains from carrying the weight arent fun.

its all relative

Maybe you could simply ask Lulu to walk insead? ???

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 06:54:15 AM »
Shortened crank versus dying from cancer...I can live with shorter given those options!

I agree. But I'd like to avoid both issues.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 07:13:23 AM »
can you elaborate on your thoughts here?  would any of this affect the shortened penis issue? (no homo)

I'm no endocrinologist or any type of doctor. I would think that suppressing your testosterone along with the increase of estrogen from added fat, aromatase and naturally producing estrogen could cause a penis to shrink. I would assume your penis grows during puberty due to testosterone and taking it away could lead to a loss of size. Just like muscles shrink off steroids. 

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 07:17:43 AM »
I am a over 3 year prostate cancer survivor and the story is true. But to be honest that is the least of your worries with the removal of the prostate. Incontinence  and erectile dysfunction is the two normal side effects. It took over 2 years to completely get over both. I am a rare case to not suffer permanently from one or the other. I am still prescribed Cialis but it is not to get hard, more for duration. I have had 5 major back surgeries and they were nothing compared to this surgery. It will fuck you up for a long time. Like I said, I was lucky. As far as shorter dick, yea it happened but if you have enough to start with you don't sweat it. The other 2 side effects are much more concerning.
Now flame away but I wouldn't wish prostate cancer on anyone. But it was better than the alternative.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 07:18:55 AM »
What percentage of women complains if is too big, versus those who complain for being  too small ......


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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 07:29:25 AM »
Gym Rat thanks for the courage to speak up on your ill health. The alternative to prostate removal could be death. I'm sure many who go through that feel like they are alone.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 07:38:18 AM »
Gym Rat thanks for the courage to speak up on your ill health. The alternative to prostate removal could be death. I'm sure many who go through that feel like they are alone.

Yea, I was reluctant to post it in detail but WTF. It was a horrible thing to go through. There were even more complications like the 6" incision blowing open a week after surgery. I had to go back in and have it sewn shut after packing it with gauze for 2 weeks. The opening was 6" long, 2" wide, and over a inch deep. It was brutal. They said steroid abuse contributed greatly to the cancer. Probably did but who knows.

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 07:50:01 AM »
Fuckin' Damn! :o

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2013, 08:02:58 AM »
It is known that prostate removal kills the nerves in your cock causing erectile issues.  Could be the nerve damage that is the main issue. 

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 08:13:51 AM »
It is known that prostate removal kills the nerves in your cock causing erectile issues.  Could be the nerve damage that is the main issue. 

It is the surgeon that kills the nerves during removal. I did my homework and found the most successful surgeon in my area for successful woodies. I thought I made the wrong choice when shit want happening for a while but he kept telling me to be patient. And he wasn't lying. Woke up with wood tis morning. Bitch was the wife was already at work.   ;D

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2013, 08:15:16 AM »
My penis is close to 5 inches .....  (Ill say average)..... but let just hope I remain cancer free......

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Re: Shortened penis following prostate cancer treatment
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2013, 08:24:59 AM »
My penis is close to 5 inches .....  (Ill say average)..... but let just hope I remain cancer free......

I hope you do, for many reasons. I will say that was one side effect my urologists did not warn me about.