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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2013, 01:35:40 PM »
fair enough

gotta keep in simple for the simpletons

Do you know what the name of the bill that just expired?

The Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011
FACT IS PPL ARE PAYING MORE IN TAXES THAN THE DID LAST WEEK..,

you know those middle class families everyone was talking about.

I'm sorry the govt shouldn't be asking anybody for more money while its as big and inefficient as it is

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2013, 02:28:38 PM »
FACT IS PPL ARE PAYING MORE IN TAXES THAN THE DID LAST WEEK..,

you know those middle class families everyone was talking about.

I'm sorry the govt shouldn't be asking anybody for more money while its as big and inefficient as it is

It's also a fact that the discount in payroll tax was temporary

again, simpletons can piss in their diapers about it

I wouldn't expect anything less

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2013, 04:19:41 PM »
so where the other tax cuts that were made permenant...

they could have done the same with this one, instead obama and congress elected to raise taxes on the sacred middles class by 3.5% in the middle of a recession.

you should be pissed about this straw. The bloated, ineffecient, wasteful piss of govt are taking more money away from you while spending more and more.

I hope this opens the eyes of a lot of the idiots who voted for bigger govt and more entitlements or didnt vote at all

sooner or later the middle class will end up footing the bill

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2013, 05:11:16 PM »
I voted for Ron Paul - dont blame me 

If only more had done the same.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2013, 05:14:31 PM »
so where the other tax cuts that were made permenant...

they could have done the same with this one, instead obama and congress elected to raise taxes on the sacred middles class by 3.5% in the middle of a recession.

you should be pissed about this straw. The bloated, ineffecient, wasteful piss of govt are taking more money away from you while spending more and more.

I hope this opens the eyes of a lot of the idiots who voted for bigger govt and more entitlements or didnt vote at all

sooner or later the middle class will end up footing the bill

I think it was only a 2% raise, but you are correct... Taxes on people like you and I got raised... That's true.

I do wonder and did wonder during all of this discussion why no one said "Hey, that payroll tax cut should be extended."

Why didn't anyone do that I wonder?


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2013, 05:25:17 PM »
I believe its 3.5 and also the employers have to pay the other half of that so they also pay 3.5% more per employee.

Imagine how that is going to hurt working capital and the bottom line for many companies...

you think they arent hiring now, it just got more expensive per employee...

way to go obama and congress, you FUCKED US AGAIN!!!!

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2013, 05:42:20 PM »
I think it was only a 2% raise, but you are correct... Taxes on people like you and I got raised... That's true.

I do wonder and did wonder during all of this discussion why no one said "Hey, that payroll tax cut should be extended."

Why didn't anyone do that I wonder?



Repubs weren't in favor of the original temporary cut

It as the FIRST TIME they found a tax cut they didn't like

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2013, 05:46:50 PM »
It doesnt take much to shock an Obama voter ::)

They will get over it.



apparently Repubs don't understand the meaning of the word Temporary even though it's right there in the title of the bill

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2013, 05:50:31 PM »
Repubs weren't in favor of the original temporary cut

It as the FIRST TIME they found a tax cut they didn't like

Money for obamphones , welfare, food stamps, UE, Muslim brotherhood, etc. Workers get fucked by o-pofs

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2013, 06:08:20 PM »
apparently Repubs don't understand the meaning of the word Temporary even though it's right there in the title of the bill
first this isnt a rep/dem thing this is a GOVT FUCKING ITS CONSTITUENTS thing

all the tax cuts were temporary strawman, why not make this one permenant?

FACT is ppl are paying more now than a week ago when all the tax cuts were temporary.


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2013, 06:17:17 PM »
The govt. will come for the the Upper-Middle Class on down to the Lower-Middle Class money soon enough and I really don't think it's up for argument. There will be no spending "cuts" or cuts to future growth, only more spending, printing and taxing.

Taxes will be raised and deductions will be closed. Only a matter of time.

This is what was voted for.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2013, 06:20:49 PM »
The govt. will come for the the Upper-Middle Class on down to the Lower-Middle Class money soon enough and I really don't think it's up for argument. There will be no spending "cuts" or cuts to future growth, only more spending, printing and taxing.

Taxes will be raised and deductions will be closed. Only a matter of time.

This is what was voted for.


The funny thing is that they did not even make this public and only die hards like us knew this was coming.  The idiot obama voters had no clue. 

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2013, 06:21:41 PM »
The govt. will come for the the Upper-Middle Class on down to the Lower-Middle Class money soon enough and I really don't think it's up for argument. There will be no spending "cuts" or cuts to future growth, only more spending, printing and taxing.

Taxes will be raised and deductions will be closed. Only a matter of time.

This is what was voted for.
read and understand this ppl...

whether you feel you voted for this or not, this is the result of what you voted for...

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2013, 06:42:35 PM »
fair enough

gotta keep in simple for the simpletons

Do you know what the name of the bill that just expired?

The Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011

Then, why don't you explain that to the SIMPLETON Obama voters, who are getting bent out of shape about this tax hike?

Apparently, they got this strange impression that only those EEEEEEEEVVVVVVIIIIILLLLL LL rich people would get got. I wonder from where they got that message.  ::)

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2013, 07:15:33 PM »
Then, why don't you explain that to the SIMPLETON Obama voters, who are getting bent out of shape about this tax hike?

Apparently, they got this strange impression that only those EEEEEEEEVVVVVVIIIIILLLLL LL rich people would get got. I wonder from where they got that message.  ::)

I know plenty of them and no one has mentioned it

if you look at 333 retarded link you might understand why this claim is total nonsense (assuming you're not a moron)


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2013, 07:17:18 PM »
I know plenty of them and no one has mentioned it

if you look at 333 retarded link you might understand why this claim is total nonsense (assuming you're not a moron)



That is because the cult of Obama does not care what he does. 

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2013, 07:19:50 PM »
unless you get paid every week you havent received a paycheck yet to notice.

chances are most ppl didnt even notice as was the case with my co-workers who were upset when I told them about it.

The girl that works next to me said "I thought the deal was supposed to help the middle class"...

think again, big govt fuking over its constituents once again...

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2013, 07:22:05 PM »
Then, why don't you explain that to the SIMPLETON Obama voters, who are getting bent out of shape about this tax hike?

Apparently, they got this strange impression that only those EEEEEEEEVVVVVVIIIIILLLLL LL rich people would get got. I wonder from where they got that message.  ::)

Exactly.

The point that the retard Straw keeps missing is that he voted for this. Obama bears as much blame as anyone.

No one earning under $250k was supposed to see any tax increase. You would have thought that the Democrats and Obama would have kept that promise and prevented this from happening.

Now you see the moronic Obama supporters solely blaming the Republicans while giving obama a pass. Stating that the original cuts were permanent. So? If the Dems care so much for the middle class they could have made them permanent.

Nope. Obama and Dems are culpable.

It's 2-3% now. It will be higher soon and even higher later on to pay for Obamacare.


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2013, 07:23:57 PM »
unless you get paid every week you havent received a paycheck yet to notice.

chances are most ppl didnt even notice as was the case with my co-workers who were upset when I told them about it.

The girl that works next to me said "I thought the deal was supposed to help the middle class"...

think again, big govt fuking over its constituents once again...

That's true. For those who get paid twice a month, their last check was probably on the 28th, the 31st, or the 2nd. Either way, that's December 2012 pay, not January 2013 pay.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2013, 07:24:48 PM »
Exactly.

The point that the retard Straw keeps missing is that he voted for this. Obama bears as much blame as anyone.

No one earning under $250k was supposed to see any tax increase. You would have thought that the Democrats and Obama would have kept that promise and prevented this from happening.

Now you see the moronic Obama supporters solely blaming the Republicans while giving obama a pass. Stating that the original cuts were permanent. So? If the Dems care so much for the middle class they could have made them permanent.

Nope. Obama and Dems are culpable.

It's 2-3% now. It will be higher soon and even higher later on to pay for Obamacare.



no one under 400k is seeing any tax increase
 
their payroll tax is no higher than the day Obama took office

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2013, 07:26:15 PM »
That's true. For those who get paid twice a month, their last check was probably on the 28th, the 31st, or the 2nd. Either way, that's December 2012 pay, not January 2013 pay.
yup at my work we get paid every week so everyone was able to get a first hand view of the effects of big govt today.


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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2013, 07:26:26 PM »
Exactly.

The point that the retard Straw keeps missing is that he voted for this. Obama bears as much blame as anyone.

No one earning under $250k was supposed to see any tax increase. You would have thought that the Democrats and Obama would have kept that promise and prevented this from happening.

Now you see the moronic Obama supporters solely blaming the Republicans while giving obama a pass. Stating that the original cuts were permanent. So? If the Dems care so much for the middle class they could have made them permanent.

Nope. Obama and Dems are culpable.

It's 2-3% now. It will be higher soon and even higher later on to pay for Obamacare.



Straw would have you believe that he and his fellow Obama-voting buddies saw this coming and gleefully voted for a tax hike (or "expiration of the discount", as he calls it).

But the withholding tax isn't the only one that hits the middle class.

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2013, 07:28:12 PM »
Straw would have you believe that he and his fellow Obama-voting buddies saw this coming and gleefully voted for a tax hike (or "expiration of the discount", as he calls it).

But the withholding tax isn't the only one that hits the middle class.

there was no tax hike on people under 400k

I know you need something to piss and moan about so go right ahead but you could make a bit of effort to find something real

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Re: Obama voters in state of shock as 2% withholding hike takes hold.
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2013, 07:28:45 PM »
no one under 400k is seeing any tax increase

Yes, they are. Among the tax hikes is that little monstrosity, known as ObamaCare.