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[Onetimehard]

SIMPLE- HOW TO GET CONTEST SHREDDED FOR ANYONE.

All these trainers and coaches make me sick acting like if it's some rocket science shit they are giving away, I have no problem with PT or coaches, they are good for motivation and guidance but where my problem lies is when they mislead their clients into thinking this shit is rocket science.

If you are on HRT or juice then listen up.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + low carbs (green veg allowed) and 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get anyone into single digits.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + No carbs (green veg and others allowed)+ 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get you to contest bodyfat levels.

Forget the calorie counting Bull Shit, forget the complicated dietary metabolism Bull Shit, forget the rocket science, all garbage, don't spend money on some expert trying to act like it is Calculus or physics. What I wrote above will get ANYONE from point A to point B (contest shape) period.




THE LIST


OK, here are your protein sources;

Egg whites
Chicken breast
lean Turkey
Cod
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Talipia
Shrimp
Liver
Protein shake ( find one with less then 4 grams of carbs per serving)

Now the following protein sources are kept to once a day;

Lean steak
Lean ground beef
Lean roast beef
Veal

In general I do not consider certain vegetable source to be carbs, cause your metabolism process them without any storage of fat, in other words the calories do not convert to fat

Here are your vegetable source;

Asparagus
Broccoli/purple sprouting broccoli
Cabbage
Cucumber
Onion
Spinach
Romaine lettuce
Tomatoes
Green Peppers

 Now the following vegetables should be kept to a minimum;

Celery
Carrots
Mushrooms
Peas

Dietary fats can come from flax oil or a supplement, I do not recommend they come from nuts or sees. From experience it is very easy to go crazy eating from nuts and seeds and can sabotage your diet.

Diet drinks are allowed, they have zero calories anyway.


Keep your veg. to one serving per meal.







ECA to fuel workouts on no carbs

12 weeks maximum use only


The way ECA works is it gives you more energy on less carbs, so say you take 32mg of ephedrine and you have ate 300 grams of carbs, the energy you get from the ECA will NOT be that great, if you ate 200 grams of carbs then the additional energy you get from it ECA will be more, and if you ate 100 grams it will be more yet. On 0 carbs the energy increase is the greatest on ECA. It is almost as if the carbs diminish it's potency.

So it is amazing on a no carb diet. But the problem is people do not know how to use ECA in a maximum beneficial manner so they do not get proper results. First mistake is they take it daily and periodically, huge mistake, your receptors get used to the stimulants fast so before you know it you have to keep upping the dose to achieve the same levels of energy it produces.

This is how I use it, only on training days and prior to a workout to start off with, I will take 32mg of ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and 80mg aspirin 20 minutes before a workout and I am on a no carb diet and the energy from the ECA is NO different from that of having eaten tons of carbs, I swear absolutely no different in energy levels at all, still cranking 400 on the bench for reps no problem.

By only using it when I need it I will not tap out my receptors that quickly and at around the 3 week mark I will take 48mg of ephedrine instead of 32 cause by this point I will need more to achieve the same results.

at the 5 week mark I am up 64 mg at one time and 300mg of caffeine, the aspirin always stays at 80mg cause the body does not adapt to aspirin ( at least not noticeably). Now every 4 workouts I up the ephedrine by 8mg and when I get to the 96mg of ephedrine I add another 100 mg of caffeine. Remember up to this point your primary reason to have used ECA is as a stimulant for your workout and of course there are other secondary benefits as well.

At week six I take 8mg of ephedrine when I wake up and 8mg at launch, at week 7 I take 16mg of ephedrine when I wake up and 16mg at launch, at week 8 I take 24mg of ephedrine when I wake up and so on and so on. Now the primary reason for the ECA in the morning and at launch is for fat burning and to suppress appetite, while your pre-workout ECA still remains as a stimulant.



Incorporating clen on a no carb diet

TWO ways to do this, one requires you change your diet every two weeks and the other allows you to keep the same diet, however, your ECA protocol has to be changed.

Protocol one; Ok you are running on zero carbs so ECA is a must, and NO CARB diet has to include a stimulant such as ECA no matter what so since ECA and Clen together is rather hard on your heart, so I propose you take clen for 2 weeks and then ECA for 2 weeks, Clen for 2 weeks and then ECA for 2 weeks etc.

The 2 weeks you are on clen you will not have ECA to fuel your workout so you must take in carb pre-workout, but we are talking 100-150 grams of carbs daily. So your diet will be a no carb diet for 2 weeks (ECA) then a low carb diet for 2 weeks (Clen) etc. Plain and simple.


Protocol two; This one is a little harder so DO NOT do it if you are feeling to much anxiety, BE CAREFUL.

As mentioned earlier in the thread that on a NO CARB diet one must take ECA for 2 different reasons- reason #1 to stimulate your workout and reason #2- to stimulate fat burning and appetite suppressant.

 Once you start taking Clen drop reason #2, I repeat drop taking ECA multiple times per day as a fat burner and an appetite suppressant. Now the reason is your fat burning will come from Clen and it is already doing a good job so ECA for fat burning is NOT necessary, also there are NO synergistic affect anyway. Now you still need to take ECA as a stimulant pre-workout, this is a must to fuel your workout. At this point nothing changes in your diet, still a no carb diet with Clen as your main source of fat-lose tool and ECA as your main source of stimulant to duel your workout.

CONCLUSION; Do not ask me which one is better, it is not anyones call but yours, this could be hard on your system so make sure you dot all i's and cross all your t's before you make a mistake that can hurt you.

Now as far as dosage, again Clen reactions vary from person to person so I do not know what would be to much or to little for anyone, but I will say this though; start at 20mcg and work your way up, add a little every 2 days until you reach what you like. If you do protocol 2 since you are on ECA as well I would not recommend you ever cross 100 mcg daily and that is a lot. Most people stick to 40-60.




ADDRESSING THE CHEAT/CARB DAY[/[/i][/u]
If you are on low carbs no need for this


On a no carb diet most people use the weekly approach for a carb up day. I do not use this approach.

What I do is simple, I pick intervals in body weight throughtout the course of my journey and once every interval is met I have a cheat day.

Here is an example; start the diet at 250lb and I end up at 205lb so I pick all my cheat days in advance like this;

244 lb
239 lb
234 lb
229 lb
225 lb
221 lb
217 lb
214 lb
211 lb
208 lb
205 lb

Every time I hit my next weight goal I have a carb up day. The carb up day is 300-350 grams of carbs and it does not matter if the carbs are from complex sources or simple sources cause you are way depleted anyway, you will burn it all regardless.

Now notice how the first interval is 6lb and the last one is only 3 lb, well that is because at the beginning you lose lots of weight fast and then as you approach less bodyfat your weight lost slow down. weigh yourself on empty stomach first thing in the morning

[P.I.P]

SIMPLE- HOW TO GET CONTEST SHREDDED FOR ANYONE.

All these trainers and coaches make me sick acting like if it's some rocket science shit they are giving away, I have no problem with PT or coaches, they are good for motivation and guidance but where my problem lies is when they mislead their clients into thinking this shit is rocket science.

If you are on HRT or juice then listen up.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + low carbs (green veg allowed) and 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get anyone into single digits.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + No carbs (green veg allowed)+ 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get you to contest bodyfat levels.

Forget the calorie counting Bull Shit, forget the complicated dietary metabolism Bull Shit, forget the rocket science, all garbage, don't spend money on some expert trying to act like it is Calculus or physics. What I wrote above will get ANYONE from point A to point B (contest shape) period.

I will elaborate on a list of foods you can eat in part 2

Thank you!

I feel horrible for the fat fuckers I see everyday that are being misled by personal trainers.

These fat people would be so much better off if they would just limit themselves to 1500 calories per day.  Trying to eat six small meals, and all that garbage is just too much for them.

[Wiggs]

SIMPLE- HOW TO GET CONTEST SHREDDED FOR ANYONE.

All these trainers and coaches make me sick acting like if it's some rocket science shit they are giving away, I have no problem with PT or coaches, they are good for motivation and guidance but where my problem lies is when they mislead their clients into thinking this shit is rocket science.

If you are on HRT or juice then listen up.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + low carbs (green veg allowed) and 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get anyone into single digits.

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources" + No carbs (green veg allowed)+ 20-40 grams of healthy fats will get you to contest bodyfat levels.

Forget the calorie counting Bull Shit, forget the complicated dietary metabolism Bull Shit, forget the rocket science, all garbage, don't spend money on some expert trying to act like it is Calculus or physics. What I wrote above will get ANYONE from point A to point B (contest shape) period.

I will elaborate on a list of foods you can eat in part 2

While you're correct. I believe when you get to National level and IFBB level it does indeed become a science and needs to be broken down the way BFG breaks it down in his posts.

BTW, carb cycling would be more ideal than no carbs. You'll already have low energy from dieting why make it worse the whole diet. Carbs keep you full and strong. It all depends where you're starting of course, if you're a fatass, yes, you'll have to suffer. If not, you can diet with carbs. It's been happening for over 30 years and still today.

[cephissus]

could you give a detailed example of a meal plan for one day?

or just a bunch of examples of meals?  i never understood how people eat without carbs.  i can look at a list of foods all day, but how do you put it together into something edible?  i can't imagine just stuffing my face with flavorless meat over and over all day.

i'm thinking about trying something like this, since I would like to be a bit leaner, especially as i get older.

[Onetimehard]

While you're correct. I believe when you get to National level and IFBB level it does indeed become a science and needs to be broken down the way BFG breaks it down in his posts.

BTW, carb cycling would be more ideal than no carbs. You'll already have low energy from dieting why make it worse the whole diet. Carbs keep you full and strong. It all depends where you're starting of course, if you're a fatass, yes, you'll have to suffer. If not, you can diet with carbs. It's been happening for over 30 years and still today.

The programs involved at the pro level are due to hormones, combinations of hormones but most importantly bringing gh and insulin into the picture makes it a bit more complicated but if you do not do gh or insulin, no need AT ALL to make it more complicated then what I wrote above.

As for carb cycling, well that is a watered down version of what I wrote. What I wrote is the fastest and most efficient way humanly possible, there is simply no such a thing as a faster way to get to contest shape while maintaining all your muscle, sorry but there just is NOT.

Energy is not a problem on no carbs, I aim for a certain feeling and use Caffeine and ephedrine to obtain this feeling and if it gets bad I simply use more until I am fully energized for the gym, never have less energy this way. Still 8 weeks into no carbs can still preacher curl 205 for reps and deadlift 500 for 10 no problem.

[Onetimehard]

could you give a detailed example of a meal plan for one day?

or just a bunch of examples of meals?  i never understood how people eat without carbs.  i can look at a list of foods all day, but how do you put it together into something edible?  i can't imagine just stuffing my face with flavorless meat over and over all day.

i'm thinking about trying something like this, since I would like to be a bit leaner, especially as i get older.

Will write a list and some meals in a couple days, part 2 

[Van_Bilderass]

While you're correct. I believe when you get to National level and IFBB level it does indeed become a science and needs to be broken down the way BFG breaks it down in his posts.

More like voodoo than science. They obviously do enough things right to look like they do
but it has little to do with science.

[cephissus]

Will write a list and some meals in a couple days, part 2 

Thanks, I'll hold you to it!

[Onetimehard]

Thanks, I'll hold you to it!

[ukjeff]

Unlimited foods from "protein only sources"

So if I eat 15,000 calories of protein a day I will get ripped?

[Johnny Falcon]

thats bullshit i remember eating 400 grams of protien and nothing else, i made it as high as 900 grams of protien and nothing else, it didnt do shit

[HTexan]

I got an simpler one. Stop eating so much.

[Onetimehard]

So if I eat 15,000 calories of protein a day I will get ripped?

I have been around bro, been getting people to contest shape forever and many have challenged this and they come back and say, "you know your right after 3lb of chicken breast I was ready to throw up. Your body can not and will not allow this much.

What happens if you eat to much protein you will have the runs. Think about it, 3 pounds of chicken breast is a measly 1300 calories. Eat 5 lb and it will not be absorbed, will come out the other end, it is impossible to over eat in calories on protein only.

[Onetimehard]

thats bullshit i remember eating 400 grams of protien and nothing else, i made it as high as 900 grams of protien and nothing else, it didnt do shit

it didn't do what? exactly? don't understand your statement, please elaborate

[cephissus]

can you eat like this year round?

[Onetimehard]

can you eat like this year round?

You don't need to cause you will be shredded in no time, I drop 50lb in 10 weeks and end up contest shredded. The beauty of this is there is no such a thing as a plateau, you will simply keep losing fat every single day until there is no fat left.

[ukjeff]

What happens if you eat to much protein you will have the runs.

I would have thought constipation.

[Wiggs]

While your correct. If there's no rush. It's better to have balance and have a mixture of protein, complex carbs and "good" fats. I would be hungry all the time with all that protein.

[cephissus]

You don't need to cause you will be shredded in no time, I drop 50lb in 10 weeks and end up contest shredded. The beauty of this is there is no such a thing as a plateau, you will simply keep losing fat every single day until there is no fat left.

right now i'm pretty lean maybe 10%+, say i want to get down to 8% with your diet.  can i do that and just stay there?  i have all the size i'm ever going to have (not much) so might as well be as lean as possible.

[ukjeff]

I used to diet on moderate carbs/protein and low fats and it worked for me, last year I dieted on this new high protein regime and lost a load of muscle and was fucked and hypo all the time.

Not for me.

[arce1988]

 OTH is right     I can eat all of the steak chicken and fish until I explode   and I still get ripped     start adding in those carbs and every thing will turn to shit

[Onetimehard]

I would have thought constipation.

Protein only gives you rock hard shits but your body has a limited amounts of digestive enzymes which pulls all the calories out of the foods and and your stomach process it and what is not processed in your stomach is then processed in either your intestinal walls or your liver.

 When the digestive enzymes are insufficient from to much protein intake there will be a surplus of protein that will not be broken down digestively so will just be rejected by your digestive system and processed in the form of diarrhea where the majority of the calories will not even be absorbed.

[Groink]

OTH is right     I can eat all of the steak chicken and fish until I explode   and I still get ripped     start adding in those carbs and every thing will turn to shit

This, Carbs will fuck you up and make you an estrogen bomb

[outby43]

OTH is right     I can eat all of the steak chicken and fish until I explode   and I still get ripped     start adding in those carbs and every thing will turn to shit

x2  (bad)Carbs fuck me up but they are like a drug to me.  When my feet start getting numb I quit them for a while..

[arce1988]

  Just the way it is