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« Reply #525 on: January 17, 2013, 07:07:14 PM »

dorian i dont believe a word, hes good huy and all, but not very thrustworthy on these matters.

mentzer was amphetamine addict, anyone gets shredded on that stuff.

levrone says he dieted with nothing but brokoli and fish.

why do the pros do carb ups before contest, could it be bc they need to refill the glycogen stores bc they had little carbs before that?




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« Reply #526 on: January 17, 2013, 07:19:30 PM »

dorian i dont believe a word, hes good huy and all, but not very thrustworthy on these matters.

mentzer was amphetamine addict, anyone gets shredded on that stuff.

levrone says he dieted with nothing but brokoli and fish.

why do the pros do carb ups before contest, could it be bc they need to refill the glycogen stores bc they had little carbs before that?



The question is what would Dorian possibly have to gain by lying about his diet? He basically said he kept an even balance of protein and carbs.

Not like he was espousing some crazy diet to sell shit or trying to minimize his drug usage... He just said his diet was old school and based on what he learned about how the body uses food for fuel. Remember, this was the 90's, the low/no carb fad seemed to hit at the end of the 90's/early 2000's.
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« Reply #527 on: January 17, 2013, 07:30:09 PM »

maybe he still makes money by advicing ppl on diet and wants everyone to think he knows it all.

i wouldnt ask for diet tips from such a huge guy with such drug regiment,

say if hes on hrt these days, everthing considered, ill rather have my body.


This was from his contest days, 92-95'ish interviews. He basically said he didn't do anything special, balanced carbs and protein, minimal fats, old school diet.
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« Reply #528 on: January 17, 2013, 07:51:41 PM »

What did I miss, lol, dre23 won't recover  Embarrassed Cry he got a dose of getbig ownage, the hardest board on the planet. Fuck me  Grin

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« Reply #529 on: January 17, 2013, 08:36:43 PM »

All right, all right. Enough nonsense- you cats want to get ripped? P90X.

This thread is offically over.
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« Reply #530 on: January 17, 2013, 08:43:06 PM »

All right, all right. Enough nonsense- you cats want to get ripped? P90X.

This thread is offically over.
Bro, you don't know what unfolded today?, lmao, dre23 comes over here from the scam15 website and makes a total fucken fool of himself and gets owned here on getbig, I know, WTF was he thinking?

anyhow, trust me the elfs are on their way here with reinforcements,   Grin   We are going to send them back exactly where they came from  Cool

Stay tuned.  Wink
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« Reply #531 on: January 17, 2013, 08:59:16 PM »

lol utter destruction from galeniko
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« Reply #532 on: January 17, 2013, 09:03:01 PM »

Bro, you don't know what unfolded today?, lmao, dre23 comes over here from the scam15 website and makes a total fucken fool of himself and gets owned here on getbig, I know, WTF was he thinking?

anyhow, trust me the elfs are on their way here with reinforcements,   Grin   We are going to send them back exactly where they came from  Cool

Stay tuned.  Wink
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« Reply #533 on: January 17, 2013, 09:05:53 PM »

"The pyramids were built by aliens."  -gh15
"I use the same needle for 100+ injections."   -gh15
"500 mg per day of Anadrol is common for many bodybuilders."   -gh15
"I have seen the actual defense plans for nuclear attack."    -gh15
"Mike O'Hearn can not squat 315 for reps."  -gh15


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« Reply #534 on: January 17, 2013, 09:19:22 PM »

onetimehard how would you incorporate clen in your diet?
or would you?
Incorporating clen on a no carb diet

TWO ways to do this, one requires you change your diet every two weeks and the other allows you to keep the same diet, however, your ECA protocol has to be changed.

Protocol one; Ok you are running on zero carbs so ECA is a must, and NO CARB diet has to include a stimulant such as ECA no matter what so since ECA and Clen together is rather hard on your heart, so I propose you take clen for 2 weeks and then ECA for 2 weeks, Clen for 2 weeks and then ECA for 2 weeks etc.

The 2 weeks you are on clen you will not have ECA to fuel your workout so you must take in carb pre-workout, but we are talking 100-150 grams of carbs daily. So your diet will be a no carb diet for 2 weeks (ECA) then a low carb diet for 2 weeks (Clen) etc. Plain and simple.


Protocol two; This one is a little harder so DO NOT do it if you are feeling to much anxiety, BE CAREFUL.

As mentioned earlier in the thread that on a NO CARB diet one must take ECA for 2 different reasons- reason #1 to stimulate your workout and reason #2- to stimulate fat burning and appetite suppressant.

 Once you start taking Clen drop reason #2, I repeat drop taking ECA multiple times per day as a fat burner and an appetite suppressant. Now the reason is your fat burning will come from Clen and it is already doing a good job so ECA for fat burning is NOT necessary, also there are NO synergistic affect anyway. Now you still need to take ECA as a stimulant pre-workout, this is a must to fuel your workout. At this point nothing changes in your diet, still a no carb diet with Clen as your main source of fat-lose tool and ECA as your main source of stimulant to duel your workout.

CONCLUSION; Do not ask me which one is better, it is not anyones call but yours, this could be hard on your system so make sure you dot all i's and cross all your t's before you make a mistake that can hurt you.

Now as far as dosage, again Clen reactions vary from person to person so I do not know what would be to much or to little for anyone, but I will say this though; start at 20mcg and work your way up, add a little every 2 days until you reach what you like. If you do protocol 2 since you are on ECA as well I would not recommend you ever cross 100 mcg daily and that is a lot. Most people stick to 40-60.


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« Reply #535 on: January 17, 2013, 09:23:36 PM »

You know what guys...you are 100% correct that I was FAT!!!!

But if you knew my journey and where I've come from you might say things differently, but seeing the desire here to crush the human spirit, that is also doubtful. I try to be an honest person and act with some morals and conduct myself in a manner that others respect.

I will be very brief and say this. A year and a half ago I was near 500lb bodyweight due to a brain tumor that damaged my hypothalamus and had a death sentence. Yet through bodybuilding diet/training I have lost almost 200lbs.

No, I am not ripped...yet, but I do know what dietary principles have worked with me so far and that the proper carbs utilized will still allow one to burn fat in the correct environment.

You all can peronally attack me all you want and do your little 3rd grade name-calling, but my personal calling is higher than that as I hope to encourage and motivate others to achieve the body that they want, despite whatever obstacles may present themselves.

With that said, the truth is the truth and you can not compare a non-hormonized lifter and his diet to a hormonized one...it is night and day! Do not ignore the basic principle of the hormone Trenbolone that with time and consistency will get any serious lifter down to 6%. But this hormone NEEDS carbs. Hgh needs carbs. Insulin needs carbs.

Now you can personally attack me all you want. That doesn't remove from the arena the fact that diet only matters when one is in a natural state, not when they are full of varying hormones.

In the end, to those who are serious bodybuilders (a name that I did not call myself), I wish you all the best in your physique endeavors. Because at the end of the day we all want to look in the mirror and be pleased with the product that we have been building.
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« Reply #536 on: January 17, 2013, 09:26:16 PM »

Oh hi dre23. I've heard all about you. You're that gay bastard that acts as gh15 bottom twink on Tuesdays.

Nice to meet you.
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« Reply #537 on: January 17, 2013, 09:28:46 PM »

Oh hi dre23. I've heard all about you. You're that gay bastard that acts as gh15 bottom twink on Tuesdays.

Nice to meet you.

The pleasure is all mine.  Wink

And actually it is Tuesdays and every other Thursday.
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« Reply #538 on: January 17, 2013, 09:29:25 PM »

The pleasure is all mine.  Wink

You little ol' cupcake.  Carry on.
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« Reply #539 on: January 17, 2013, 09:32:16 PM »

Brother you brought it upon yourself. What did you expect from us, you did not come here humble bro. You came here full of pride and arrogance. You were mocking and bringing in gh15 like he has authority here, we do not like him and if you do that's fine bro, nothing wrong with that but remain on your side of the fence bro.

Also you obviously did not review the thread properly or you would know this diet is not for anyone on gh or insulin, it is only for people who take juice only and carbs is not needed for them, juice does not work better because carbs are present. Gh and insulin do however so non of us would recommend a NO CARB diet for anyone on gh and insulin so your point is a mute point.

Now like I said if there was something you did not like you should have approached us a little different in a more modest way and you would be respected but as it stands you got what you deserved.
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« Reply #540 on: January 17, 2013, 09:35:13 PM »

Brother you brought it upon yourself. What did you expect from us, you did not come here humble bro. You came here full of pride and arrogance. You were mocking and bringing in gh15 like he has authority here, we do not like him and if you do that's fine bro, nothing wrong with that but remain on your side of the fence bro.

Also you obviously did not review the thread properly or you would know this diet is not for anyone on gh or insulin, it is only for people who take juice only and carbs is not needed for them, juice does not work better because carbs are present. Gh and insulin do however so non of us would recommend a NO CARB diet for anyone on gh and insulin so your point is a mute point.

Now like I said if there was something you did not like you should have approached us a little different in a more modest way and you would be respected but as it stands you got what you deserved.

Can't argue with that (no sarcasm).

Hey, I can admit that I came across guns a blazing. And of course you all unleashed the flame-throwers!!!  Grin
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« Reply #541 on: January 17, 2013, 09:38:26 PM »

Can't argue with that (no sarcasm).

Hey, I can admit that I came across guns a blazing. And of course you all unleashed the flame-throwers!!!  Grin
Glad you understand, we will tone it down a notch then  Wink  Grin
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« Reply #542 on: January 17, 2013, 09:38:39 PM »

do you ever donate blood,dre23?

how do the docs find your veins, do they cut you open?


what does 23 in your name stand for?

number of boyfrends?

optimistic bodyfat guess?
i promised him ill "do him" Cheesy


what ami reading "reinforcements"?dre23 doesnt need that, i think hes bulletproof, im not sure a bullet could go through all that bloof and still cause damage.

kinda like shooting someone underwater, it dont work.



They were going to look for the vein in my cock, but with my 100" waist, finding my cock is like finding a needle(dick) in a haystack... Undecided

And the 23 does not stand for the number of bofriends, but number of times I was rejected by "boyfriends" during my Male Escort days.
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« Reply #543 on: January 17, 2013, 09:39:57 PM »

Oh just for the record the guy you called skinny (galeniko) is 220lb at 6% bodyfat, just saying  Cool Cheesy
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« Reply #544 on: January 17, 2013, 10:04:33 PM »

Oh just for the record the guy you called skinny (galeniko) is 220lb at 6% bodyfat, just saying  Cool Cheesy

Wow, that is great. At what height?
Because 220 at 6% is like 206 at 4% on stage which is a National level competitor. Is he a national level competitor?

You have competed which is great b/c you have stepped onstage as a bodybuilder which many can never say they have done. You competed at 180lbs in great condition. Have you ever done high dose tren ace though? High dose gh? You would see that THEN carbs are necessary in the actual application of this hormone, just as it used by top amatuers and pros at doses of 200mg+ daily.

I'm not saying this as an attack, but just to say what high level competitors do when "dieting" for a show. So in the end it is NOT true that AAS don't need carbs when dieting because they most certainly do. I may be "bloof" now (and I am light years ahead of where I was in that video lol), but my muscle mass is on a VERY high level.

And lastly, if gh15 was not adored on gb, his account would be gone, and yet for some reason the powers that be here on this site still allow it to exist and his posts to remain for all to see.

There is no reason to lie to young guys as to what it takes to get lean, ripped, and stage ready. You will not find one single successful high level amatuer or pro who diets solely on protein. And that is because of the miracle hormones of tren and hgh.
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« Reply #545 on: January 17, 2013, 10:11:45 PM »

Wow, that is great. At what height?
Because 220 at 6% is like 206 at 4% on stage which is a National level competitor.

You have competed which is great b/c you have stepped onstage as a bodybuilder which many can never say they have done. You competed at 180lbs in great condition. Have you ever done high dose tren ace though? High dose gh? You would see that THEN carbs are necessary in the actual application of this hormone, just as it used by top amatuers and pros at doses of 200mg+ daily.

I'm not saying this as an attack, but just to say what high level competitors do when "dieting" for a show.
Galiniko is 6 foot I think, I am 5'9 I was in my best condition at 180 6 years ago but last competed at 207lb. Am going hard this year and stepping it up a notch, will be the first time on gh for me. Aiming for the top of the heavies, we will see. I fully agree that it is wiser to diet on carbs while on gh. On tren without gh I can not tell any difference though and have done enormous amounts of tren.
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« Reply #546 on: January 17, 2013, 10:14:03 PM »

This dre23 kid sounds OK. I'll be checking for updates and pictures. Don't let me down 23. . . or I'll send this guy to your house.


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« Reply #547 on: January 17, 2013, 10:18:38 PM »

As for gh15, no one cares to take his user name away, the mods are not bothered by it, either way he is not liked around here cause 1000's of people bought bunk kigs after he promoted them. As for no high level competitor diets on No carbs, that is simply not true, I know lots that diet on no carbs and I have IFBB pros as friends that diet on no carbs, I am prepping a guy for nationals on NO Carbs. In fact Dennis James diets on No carbs. So with all due respect your statements is FALSE bro.

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« Reply #548 on: January 17, 2013, 10:31:02 PM »

Galiniko is 6 foot I think, I am 5'9 I was in my best condition at 180 6 years ago but last competed at 207lb. Am going hard this year and stepping it up a notch, will be the first time on gh for me. Aiming for the top of the heavies, we will see. I fully agree that it is wiser to diet on carbs while on gh. On tren without gh I can not tell any difference though and have done enormous amounts of tren.

Well "bro"  Wink (you must be one of my mama's illegitimate canadian offspring), that is good to hear.

No personal disrepct to you at all cuz I don't know you, BUT I just felt it needed to be clarified what the guys on gh/tren do when they diet. You can't have these young guys swallowing dry chicken breasts and tuna and then wondering why they don't look anything but flat and small and think that their heros got their solely on hard work. The truth of this cult is that the hormone combo of tren/gh necessiates carbs. Not saying that you were, but let's not mislead people to think that keto is how the big boys get it done. This results in aspiring bodybuilders eventually becoming depressed and hating bodybuilding and wind up leaving b/c they think that they are genetically inferior when this is far from the case.

But even naturals diet with carbs. So especially on tren you MUST diet on carbs...100% guaranteed. So for you to say that you didn't notice a difference is quiet strange b/c at the least you would have reported being fuller and more vasucular. The tren will suck up all those carbs and put them in the right place for energy and growth. Without carbs you will lose muscle elasticity and eventually actual muscle size...this is something you do not want as a bodybuilder!

And also, with regard to gh15 followers that walk around lean all year long, just simply log onto your g h 1 5 account and you can see for yourselves all the 1000s of individuals that are doing this. All sub 9% with many much lower!

Am I there yet? No!!! But with time and consistency you will see this as well. I know there is this whole " g h 15 versus GB" battle going on, but put the "man" aside and whatever feelings you/others may have towards him, and the truth remains that I want to see ALL real bodybuilders and those who want to be bodybuilders to prosper in their goals, and to do this, we must not be afraid of telling the truth of what it takes to get there.  

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« Reply #549 on: January 17, 2013, 10:36:09 PM »

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As for carbs go, no one said they were the enemy all I said is it is faster to get leaner without them.
No it isn't, its exactly the same as if you eat carbs and stay below your BMR, you may lose weight faster on your diet but its because your calories are way too low as you cant eat enough food from protein sources alone.
PS Did you read up on protein sparing and its importance?
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