before and after.

[funk51]

 

[funk51]

  mm

[dj181]

arthur jones was an innovator and defintely not a guy to be trifled with, his  appearance on david  letterman was classic you could see the fear in letterman's eyes from some of the things jones said.

yep

AJ was a true "man's man"

i read an interview of Casey V in a muscle mag some years back, and Case said something like "a very scary individual, stay the hell out of his way" when he talked about AJ

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[Montague]

So, Funk:
Spill the beans, man...

I know you've got the inside scoop somewhere in your knowledge bank. How did Mentzer TRULY train during his formative years? So many people dispute that he used his HIT methods, insisting instead that he relied on more conventional - some even claim "hypertrophy-specific" - training.

What's the deal?

[funk51]

So, Funk:
Spill the beans, man...

I know you've got the inside scoop somewhere in your knowledge bank. How did Mentzer TRULY train during his formative years? So many people dispute that he used his HIT methods, insisting instead that he relied on more conventional - some even claim "hypertrophy-specific" - training.

What's the deal?

from what i understand he was more into volume early on in his career and switched to HIT after he met and talked to art jones.he was good friends with david mastoriss from boston mass who also claims to have switched over to HIT or nautulis type training, only actually met mentzer once in allentown no less, he was from harrisburg area.d-mass is still around.

[dj181]

So, Funk:
Spill the beans, man...

I know you've got the inside scoop somewhere in your knowledge bank. How did Mentzer TRULY train during his formative years? So many people dispute that he used his HIT methods, insisting instead that he relied on more conventional - some even claim "hypertrophy-specific" - training.

What's the deal?

from what i understand, he trained full-body 3 times per week doing one set til failure on about 15 exercises from 1974-1976

and then in 1977-1979 he trained 4 days per week on a 2-way split

day 1 was chest/tri/legs
day 2 was back/bi/delt

here he did about 4-6 failure sets per bodypart

[funk51]

also mentzer never counted his warmup sets in the plan he might have done 2-5 warm up sets but only counted 1or 2 heavy to failure sets as his workout sets.

[funk51]

  mike dayton ta mr a and later the chi master

[funk51]

  doris b

[Montague]

also mentzer never counted his warmup sets in the plan he might have done 2-5 warm up sets but only counted 1or 2 heavy to failure sets as his workout sets.

Funny. I've honestly heard the same thing about Dorian, too.
It was in FLEX or MMI back around the late-90's. I forget who wrote the article.

[funk51]

more d-mass. youngest guy to enter mr america ifbb version 15.

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[Montague]

Dayton was also a martial artist and put on demonstrations of strength; although, some were a bit "gimmicky."

[dj181]

also mentzer never counted his warmup sets in the plan he might have done 2-5 warm up sets but only counted 1or 2 heavy to failure sets as his workout sets.

true, he most likely did 3 or 4 warm-up sets for the 1st exercise and then 1 or 2 for all other following exercises

[Mr Nobody]

Yes Dave had great genes and was one of the first HIT trainees.

http://www.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/dave_mastorakis.html

[dj181]

Yes Dave had great genes and was one of the first HIT trainees.

http://www.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/dave_mastorakis.html

hi dave

[Mr Nobody]

hi dave

Not Dave he was short.

[dj181]

Not Dave he was short.

 

but so was mike and case

[funk51]

Dayton was also a martial artist and put on demonstrations of strength; although, some were a bit "gimmicky."

never saw him in person but remember him from his tv appearances, he used to break police handcuffs, explode a basketball hang himself as you pic'd, he always wanted to jump off the golden gate bridge but was never allowed, he eventually jumped off a lesser known bridge and broke his leg, his sister laura worked for one of the muscle mags back then.

[funk51]

never saw him in person but remember him from his tv appearances, he used to break police handcuffs, explode a basketball hang himself as you pic'd, he always wanted to jump off the golden gate bridge but was never allowed, he eventually jumped off a lesser known bridge and broke his leg, his sister laura worked for one of the muscle mags back then.

[funk51]

but so was mike and case

but not as short as dave, actually saw him in person at a contest in allentown the mr eastern america won by robert reis. zane guest posed at the show.