this is corret, they get indirect training when one starts to work out, and thatll be enough to build them, thats what i meant,sorry cbuzz.
nono, lol, those teenagers have no mass whatsoever, just well shaped abs.thats what i meant.
oh,one can build muscle naturaly, for say, the first 2 years the progress will be good,if diet is good etc.
after that, there wont be any quick gains any more.
70 to 93 is decent, thats what i did naturally back in the day.much was bloat,fat but definitely most gains were muscle.you did the smart approach so far, if my advice is worth anything to you, stay natty as long as possible.
if you ever decide to go on gear, keep the dosages low at any time.
when i say impossible to build muscle naturaly, i mean impossible to get some real thickness,esp when lean.
Ok, I can see what your saying now.
I will be lifetime natural, if I can't have with what God gave me, I don't want it
How much do you think your abs can grow naturally ? an 1/8''
For advanced natural lifters, very little. But if you continue working them through your advanced years, the muscles become more dense. If you've got little to begin with, then they will grow substantially assuming your diet is good ect..
As someone who's been on both sides....I can see why galeniko thinks the way he does about natural training. I know it offends a lot of guys but comparing the two natural vs enhanced....you really can't.
I'm not comparing, I never would. But Gal was telling the Guy & Girl at the gym to not waste time doing abs. That's ridiculous, of course they should work abs. They probably never will again.