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« on: February 17, 2013, 11:45:10 PM » |
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ttp://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2013-arnold-classic/5262-winner-mike-ashley-discusses-the-controversial-1990-arnold-classic-with-shawn-ray.html
Shawn Ray and Mike Ashley discuss the money, title, fallout and ramifications of the 1990 Arnold Classic where Shawn Ray was disqualified from the victory for failing a drug test, while Ashley, who was competing clean, was awarded the title. Particularly interesting is the discussion of how Ray learned of the failed drug test seven days after celebrating the victory on stage, having dinner with Arnold and Maria, and soaking in the title. This is a fantastic interview featuring a couple of class acts from the history of the Arnold Classic.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 11:46:11 PM » |
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ashley was the best natural the sport has ever seen.
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Rudee
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 11:51:33 PM » |
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ashley was the best natural the sport has ever seen.
He was as natural as a finger up your puddin' hole. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 12:51:47 AM » |
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ashley was the best natural the sport has ever seen.
^^ Not natural at all, he had fun making fun of everyone he could convince. He only said he was natty as he was scared of cops!!!! |
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 01:47:24 AM » |
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It's amazing Shawn failed a test, but that douche cutler tried to get a lawyer at the 2001 O.
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I got Brass!
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hazbin
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 01:48:11 AM » |
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ashley was the best natural the sport has ever seen.
funny how he forgot to mention that he was natural when he was a 21 year old powerlifter. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 04:02:02 AM » |
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well he never had the "look" of the other drug abusers..something about him always looked different than the rest...a little bit less muscled so to speak...
im not going to say he wasnt natural, but maybe he was... the planet has loads of freaks... not a single indication other than his size that he was using...
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 04:09:55 AM » |
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He was as natural as a finger up your puddin' hole.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 06:05:05 AM » |
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well he never had the "look" of the other drug abusers..something about him always looked different than the rest
Odd  His skeletal structure is odd like Phil Heath's. That's about it. 100% drugged.  The arms, leg cuts and delts are impossible even for a black on a bucket of chicken a day. |
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Figo
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 08:44:44 AM » |
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funny how he forgot to mention that he was natural when he was a 21 year old powerlifter.
Must've skipped his mind Luiz de Freitas also claimed natural after he failed his test at the World Champs, then came back as a natural champion. Oddly, he was even better as a nattie... |
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Figo
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 08:47:25 AM » |
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well he never had the "look" of the other drug abusers..something about him always looked different than the rest...a little bit less muscled so to speak...
im not going to say he wasnt natural, but maybe he was... the planet has loads of freaks... not a single indication other than his size that he was using...
Amazing natural specimen. Especially if you consider he competed with peers that were drugged to the gills, yet he was just as good or better than many, all the while natural Must've been his extra hard work, attention to detail, God given genes and daily prayers |
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MCWAY
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 09:06:41 AM » |
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It would have helped if they got the results of the drug test, BEFORE handing out the trophy and the check.
This happened at one other show that I remember: The 1996 AAU Mr. America. Charles Durr was awareded the title and trophy on stage. But, when the drug test results hit, Durr was disqualified and tall-class winner, Doug Reiser, ended up being the overall Mr. America winner.
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hazbin
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 11:28:02 AM » |
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Must've skipped his mind
Luiz de Freitas also claimed natural after he failed his test at the World Champs, then came back as a natural champion. Oddly, he was even better as a nattie...
then weider gave him the huge push as the natural champ, and him and his mom got busted with a whole apartment full of juice. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2013, 11:36:20 AM » |
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HE WAS BEATING SHAWN RAY OR GOING TOE TO TOE WITH HIM LATE 80'S TO EARLY 90'S YET HE DID THIS NATURAL TO SHAWN USING DRUG'S AS A TEEN  ,,,, |
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 11:52:16 AM » |
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LOL !  This clown is saying that he was natural because he had a very religious upbringing ! RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE WORST HIPOCRITES !!! |
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Parker
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 11:56:19 AM » |
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Jean Claude V-something claimed natty as well.
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MCWAY
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 12:28:45 PM » |
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LOL ! This clown is saying that he was natural because he had a very religious upbringing ! RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE WORST HIPOCRITES !!! Apparently, you haven't been around enough liberals. Don't you think some of his fellow pros, including Ray himself, would have outed Ashley if he had the goods on him, taking anabolics? |
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MCWAY
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 12:30:26 PM » |
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Just fixing your link!! You left off the "h" on the address. |
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Parker
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 12:35:25 PM » |
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Apparently, you haven't been around enough liberals. Don't you think some of his fellow pros, including Ray himself, would have outed Ashley if he had the goods on him, taking anabolics? Shawn Ray was young, he hadn't developed that "talent" yet. |
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 12:49:51 PM » |
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then weider gave him the huge push as the natural champ, and him and his mom got busted with a whole apartment full of juice.
They were probably just keeping it for a friend |
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Figo
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 12:52:01 PM » |
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HE WAS BEATING SHAWN RAY OR GOING TOE TO TOE WITH HIM LATE 80'S TO EARLY 90'S YET HE DID THIS NATURAL TO SHAWN USING DRUG'S AS A TEEN ,,,, Shawn hadn't found Jesus |
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Sherief Shalaby
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 12:52:28 PM » |
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will nasser attend the reunion??..
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MCWAY
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 12:54:07 PM » |
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Shawn Ray was young, he hadn't developed that "talent" yet.
What "talent"? If Ashley claiming to be drug-free and a fellow pro knows he's not and can prove it, what's stopping him from doing such? |
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Figo
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2013, 12:57:40 PM » |
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What "talent"? If Ashley claiming to be drug-free and a fellow pro knows he's not and can prove it, what's stopping him from doing such?
Because you do not want to bring undue attention, and focus more spotlight on steroids Any guy that does that is effectively damaging himself too Do you believe Mike Ashley was a natural bber? |
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njflex
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2013, 01:09:12 PM » |
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well smilax.gamma oranzol,weider super gain 3600,dibenocozide,did give steroid like gains....
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