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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2013, 08:10:13 PM »
  Fox did PED and was a Male first... now she does PED and is female... so IMO, she should NOT be allowed to fight TRUE FEMALES.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2013, 08:28:10 PM »
I shall attempt to clarify misunderstandings here, as it was expected, for ethical determination of what is male vs female is still a social paradigm...

The SRY Gene, normally found on the male sex Y chromosome, is what is normally transposed onto individuals believing they were the wrong sex since birth.  Further, their  XX  female physical attributes are masked by male physical development when introduced during the "Critical Stage" of embryological development. SRY contains the TDF -Testosterone Determining Factor which differentiates the gonads into testes... Testosterone has a much different effect during development as opposed to one receiving testosterone after puberty!
In these types of cases, the XX FEMALE still has ALL the female genes located on her  sex "X chromosomes" where they determine her NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ... FEMALE BRAIN to keep it simple...... The  SRY gene does not tamper with this....   This is another simplified synopsis in order to brush out technicalities and legalities....  She was a woman w/ male superpowers since many of u guys like simple.. or kind of like a superhero who has mutant capabilities that he doesn't want and wishes he were just normal like the rest of the world he/she sees

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2013, 09:15:07 PM »
Like pedro said, you don’t know anything about this specific case.

The individual underwent gender re-assignment...Highly indicative of a disproportionate population of patients who have exhibited these same genetic abnormalities..It is possible I am incorrect in my assessment(VERY RARE) but my conjecture is substantially probable due to there being a significant correlation to other patients that have underwent gender re-assignment and felt trapped in the wrong gender body since birth.......Transvestite s exhibit numerous  psycho-social  implications (Psychological deviance in accordance to mental perception)...   whereas homosexual males simply do not wish to change sexes.. can we get a consensus from the homosexual members of this board?

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2013, 09:18:00 PM »
Transvestite fetish is an acquired learned-deviation that is normally paired with a specific outside (environmental) incidence spawning this type of sexual gratification

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2013, 09:49:43 PM »
Fuck the science behind it, once you have lived as a man, you have no right to fight women, regardless of what the Doctor does to you.  It has nothing to do with the unfair advantage, it just sets a horrible precedent.  Culturally a man beating on a woman is taboo, considered a low act and is shunned throughout the world (except by Muslims).  It is confusing enough for society trying to deal with those whose gender is borderline, so until this shit gets sorted out, stay out of fighting sports, go get a real job. 

Can you imagine trying to explain this to your children.  "Yes little Johnny, you are not to hit women, unless of course you want me to chop your cock off, take some female hormones and put some make up on, then you are allowed to hit women."
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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2013, 10:00:16 PM »
Fuck the science behind it, once you have lived as a man, you have no right to fight women, regardless of what the Doctor does to you. 


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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #106 on: April 10, 2013, 10:03:04 PM »
Fuck the science behind it, once you have lived as a man, you have no right to fight women, regardless of what the Doctor does to you.  It has nothing to do with the unfair advantage, it just sets a horrible precedent.  Culturally a man beating on a woman is taboo, considered a low act and is shunned throughout the world (except by Muslims).  It is confusing enough for society trying to deal with those whose gender is borderline, so until this shit gets sorted out, stay out of fighting sports, go get a real job. 

Can you imagine trying to explain this to your children.  "Yes little Johnny, you are not to hit women, unless of course you want me to chop your cock off, take some female hormones and put some make up on, then you are allowed to hit women."

Ethically, I totally agree w/ you..NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED!...  I was just trying to clarify and educate those who do not feel that there is any difference (di- , tri, or even polymorphisms in sexuality)  I find it fascinating how a single changed sequence of a few amino acids can contribute to a wide variety of conditions..NOT BLACK AND WHITE.... Heck, there are individuals who lack attraction to either sex!    

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #107 on: April 10, 2013, 10:06:12 PM »
In her prime. Grier was a 10. Hell, she was bangable in Jackie Brown and she was in her 50s.

Pam Grier was born May 26, 1949. Jackie Brown came out on December 25, 1997 (obviously filmed before that). So, she was not in her 50's. She was max 47 at the time.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2013, 10:06:52 PM »
  47 and 50 is splitting hairs

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #109 on: April 10, 2013, 10:48:27 PM »
Danny the reason the MAJORITY of trannies come from low income backgrounds is because it's a fucking means of earning income, not because of their chromosomes.

Being a tranny is a fashion in Thailand, little more.

Growing up a homosexual, against what most people consider the norm, causes a lot of psychological trauma in many people. This manifests itself in many different ways, one of which is following this fashion. In the west, you will go through a lot of counselling before they will consider you for gender re-assignment. In Asia, this is not the case. You can take the hormones as long as you have the money and you can have the re-assignment as soon as you have the cash too.

I don't doubt there are a lot of trannies that have chromosome issues but tying chromosome issues to income is a stretch. Poverty creates a lot of trannies, partly because the trannies have a higher income potential and partly because there are no checks and balances in poor countries and so anyone can get re-assigned.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #110 on: April 10, 2013, 10:58:11 PM »
The individual underwent gender re-assignment...Highly indicative of a disproportionate population of patients who have exhibited these same genetic abnormalities..It is possible I am incorrect in my assessment(VERY RARE) but my conjecture is substantially probable due to there being a significant correlation to other patients that have underwent gender re-assignment and felt trapped in the wrong gender body since birth.......Transvestite s exhibit numerous  psycho-social  implications (Psychological deviance in accordance to mental perception)...   whereas homosexual males simply do not wish to change sexes.. can we get a consensus from the homosexual members of this board?

You have no real idea what you are talking about.

On a normal day, I probably see a few hundred transexuals walking about. I have spoken to thousands of transexuals. In a country where transexuals are commonplace, it would be hard to get through a week without interacting with one. Most department store perfume/make-up departments here employ predominantly transexuals. They are waiters, office workers, receptionists, market stll owners, actors etc. etc. etc.

I live in the country that has one of the highest percentages of transexuals/transgenders on the planet.

I even have transexuals in my extended family. No-one is saying that homosexual men want to change sex. Still, trannies are predominantly homosexual males. Trannies tend to hang out in gay locations even though they outwardly try to appear female, with varying degrees of success.

You on the other hand, have been using Google.

The fact is that if this fella had a chromosome issue, he would have used it to back up his case. He doesn't, it's just a person with some deep-seated psychological issues. Issues that can be observed not just in the fact they had a sex change but in the relationships formed afterwards and the fact he decided to become a female MMA fighter.

This is just a really, really fucked up man.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #111 on: April 10, 2013, 11:06:17 PM »
You have no real idea what you are talking about.

On a normal day, I probably see a few hundred transexuals walking about. I have spoken to thousands of transexuals. In a country where transexuals are commonplace, it would be hard to get through a week without interacting with one. Most department store perfume/make-up departments here employ predominantly transexuals. They are waiters, office workers, receptionists, market stll owners, actors etc. etc. etc.

I live in the country that has one of the highest percentages of transexuals/transgenders on the planet.

I even have transexuals in my extended family. No-one is saying that homosexual men want to change sex. Still, trannies are predominantly homosexual males. Trannies tend to hang out in gay locations even though they outwardly try to appear female, with varying degrees of success.


You're in Thailand??


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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #112 on: April 10, 2013, 11:21:34 PM »
You're in Thailand??


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Well - to be precise, I am currently in the Four Seasons Hotel in Singapore but yes, I do live in Thailand.


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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #113 on: April 10, 2013, 11:22:41 PM »
sorry buddy  -- information that i am providing is pretty basic information taught here at medical school... I have in no way denied the existence of social-environmental factors that strongly influence acceptable deviant practices of sexuality.that is basic abnormal psychology 101.  this occurrence also happens among straight males in prisons. Deviant acts due to constraints and social acceptance..  this is psycho-social !      That is the difference!!!!       Genomics and Embryology are fact... I was implying the stronger case here....  

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #114 on: April 10, 2013, 11:28:39 PM »
every stage of embryological  development must be learned in order to provide the correct treatment when able to be detected... via drugs, nutrition, etc.     Knowledge of precise stages of hormonal release or lack thereof are inevitable consequences of being provided a holistic understanding of human development and the genetic code.. the chances of this MMA fighter swaying in either direction is up for debate   ... but to make assumptions based only on perceptual physical characteristics is a misnomer within the medical field..for it provides no treatment

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #115 on: April 10, 2013, 11:31:48 PM »
You have no real idea what you are talking about.

On a normal day, I probably see a few hundred transexuals walking about. I have spoken to thousands of transexuals. In a country where transexuals are commonplace, it would be hard to get through a week without interacting with one. Most department store perfume/make-up departments here employ predominantly transexuals. They are waiters, office workers, receptionists, market stll owners, actors etc. etc. etc.

I live in the country that has one of the highest percentages of transexuals/transgenders on the planet.

I even have transexuals in my extended family. No-one is saying that homosexual men want to change sex. Still, trannies are predominantly homosexual males. Trannies tend to hang out in gay locations even though they outwardly try to appear female, with varying degrees of success.

You on the other hand, have been using Google.

The fact is that if this fella had a chromosome issue, he would have used it to back up his case. He doesn't, it's just a person with some deep-seated psychological issues. Issues that can be observed not just in the fact they had a sex change but in the relationships formed afterwards and the fact he decided to become a female MMA fighter.

This is just a really, really fucked up man.


Ever think that these trannies are more socially acceptable at these type of venues?  and make better business --w/ people knowing that these are their whereabouts?    and btw--  I have not seen the data on thailand homosexual and transgender prevalence in a while... but do remember coming up on articles based on similar mutations disproportionately occurring within that region!  you are just proving my point...

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #116 on: April 10, 2013, 11:37:05 PM »
and these chromosomal abnormalities have been observed under countless testing!!  ELISA Testing , CGH, variations of hybrid testing..PCR amplifications...n' other countless methods.  The human Genome was mapped out nearly 10 yrs ago!!!!   these specific genetic mutations have already been sequenced!!    and all a geneticist needs to do is take a sampling of DNA and decipher which proteins are/are not expressed   ... Bioinformatics..computer-based libraries of mapped out gene therapy.. c'mon man.. u can't deny it

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #117 on: April 10, 2013, 11:42:44 PM »
but yes, I do live in Thailand.

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« Reply #118 on: April 10, 2013, 11:53:06 PM »
Danny

Facts remaining are:

- You don't actually know any trannies and if you did, your opinion would change 180 degrees
- You have no information about this mans case
- Your googling for more information to back up your opinion on this man is irrelevant

The mans behaviour speaks for itself. This is an individual with some deep seated issues. 



This man should not be allowed to fight women.

With the degree of sociopathic behaviour this man has displayed, you can rest assured that he would be singing from the rooftops about any chromosomal abnormalities he had.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #119 on: April 10, 2013, 11:54:21 PM »
  Pedro is correct. This MALE should NOT be allowed to FIGHT FEMALES.

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« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2013, 11:56:17 PM »

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2013, 12:04:19 AM »
  Pedro is correct. This MALE should NOT be allowed to FIGHT FEMALES.

Indeed! Ban that Tranny!

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2013, 12:12:39 AM »
i have no gain in this...    utilizing knowledge that I have been force-fed has actually enlightened me and most of my colleagues here.. debunking stereotypes will allow many of these abnormalities to be fixed when detected at the right time.. that is the purpose behind the billion dollar industry of genomics and proteonomics...  and this is not even my interest..as I am putting in all my marbles towards being a surgeon.. the brief synopsis of my explanations were covered long ago during my 1st year as a med student...  what would urge me to google SRY gene? lol      ask any medical student.. these are basic developmental concepts that stick ..  but u may look up these terms if u wish to educate yourself         and my responses were not even directed to you to begin with.. I was debunking the notion that all the sexual deviant  acts be categorized into one filth category...   I'm not even gay and have to acknowledge that it is not a simple psychological abnormality...  developed psychological fear > yes! due to discrimination and being constantly stigmatized...  the average trans-gender individual simply does not seek a dna test to prove their sexuality.. esp if u knew how expensive getting one done w/o it being a test sponsored and conducted for reasons of scientific research

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2013, 12:24:24 AM »
I've noticed that black men looked better (more like a woman) after sex changes than white men.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2013, 02:58:58 AM »
Ethically, I totally agree w/ you..NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED!...  I was just trying to clarify and educate those who do not feel that there is any difference (di- , tri, or even polymorphisms in sexuality)  I find it fascinating how a single changed sequence of a few amino acids can contribute to a wide variety of conditions..NOT BLACK AND WHITE.... Heck, there are individuals who lack attraction to either sex!     
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