Russian Skyscraper Fire vs. 9/11

[daddy8ball]

Your argument is non-sensical, why didn't they do a thousand different things?, why didn't they just Nuke Mainland America and blame the crazy Muslims.  Who knows why they chose to do it the way they did, maybe they like spectacle, maybe the just like demolishing things?  It doesn't matter, they did what they did.  Why did al-queda do what they did? Why did the target the WTC?  Why not the school that George Bush was visiting,  the school lies only slightly to the southwest of the final approach path to Sarasota-Bradenton Airport. A jetliner targeting the school and its occupants would need to divert from a normal flight path just a few seconds before impact, affording no opportunity for countermeasures.

In answer to your question:  Who the fuck knows and Who the fuck cares.

It's not nonsensical. Post analysis of combat/terrorists operations is a core component of training for warfare/counter intelligence. Walk into any library or bookstore and count the number of military history books. Are all of those nonsensical? Why did Hitler attack Russia opening a 2 front war? What lessons can be learned there?

You postulate that 9-11 was a conspiracy. Fair enough. Who did it, and why? What was the motivation? Money? OK. If money was the motivation, are there easier ways than wiring multiple skyscrapers in NYC and concurrently hijacking 4 jumbo jets? Probably. What was the motivation?

I am asking you, since you are so convinced it was a conspiracy.

[Radical Plato]

It's not nonsensical. Post analysis of combat/terrorists operations is a core component of training for warfare/counter intelligence. Walk into any library or bookstore and count the number of military history books. Are all of those nonsensical? Why did Hitler attack Russia opening a 2 front war? What lessons can be learned there?

You postulate that 9-11 was a conspiracy. Fair enough. Who did it, and why? What was the motivation? Money? OK. If money was the motivation, are there easier ways than wiring multiple skyscrapers in NYC and concurrently hijacking 4 jumbo jets? Probably. What was the motivation?

I am asking you, since you are so convinced it was a conspiracy.

I have not said I am convinced it is a conspiracy, only that the official story is suspicious. And as for why Hitler did things, it will always be speculation, Hitler probably wasn't 100% sure why the fuck he did things, he was an angry anti-semite riddled with syphillis, and rage coupled with mental illness from his STD made it hard to think clearly.   I don't know what the motivation for 9/11 was, but the Government started a war based off the back of it, it implemented laws that strengthened the Governments power, it has now entered perhaps a never ending war on terror, ensuring huge military budgets and continuing arms sales.  One thing I know about human beings, is they are not rational creatures, and the more humans play in finance & politics, the less rational they become.

[Seven Copper Coins]

It would be nice if you read what others posted, the power outage was unprecedented, as confirmed by analyst who had Massive servers that needed to be powered 24/7.  Nobodies talking about the normal working of the building, everyone understands that buildings need servicing.  But their was an unusual outage that surprised some tenants and during that time their were workers coming and going that experienced staff had never seen before (including the janitor who had worked at the towers for over 20 years).  It was expressed later by one witness why it was barely mentioned after 9/11 and some Government officials even denied it.  For him, it was too much of a coincidence that their was this unusual power outage, lots of workmen and then shortly after the collapse of the towers.

It is people like you who give the confidence for Governments to do whatever they like.  When they see an event like 9/11 and the lemmings that buy up what they sell to them as a story, it is any wonder that they do as they please.  Regardless of if it was a conspiracy, your utter conviction about the issue, your ready convenient excuse for anything remotely out of the ordinary, is rather frightening.  If I was in Government, it is people like you that realise we can do and say anything and get away with it.  It doesn't make you Intelligent to agree with the Governments Official story on the matter, it just means you don't question their authority.  And anybody can do that.  I am not suggesting to always question authority, but it is important to do so when things seem shady, or events that will have a huge impact on everyone's life are being wrapped up onto a nice little bundle.

Your posts are just bullshit maybes and jumping to conclusions. I read the interview you posted. The guy couldn't even say for sure that there wasn't power to those floors, he couldnt say anything for sure even, when the obviously slanted rwlrter ptessed him.  The fact that a bullshit interview like that is an "A-HA!" Moment to you shows how ridiculous your argument is.

[viking1]

                    This album released on the day of the attacks. What a bizarre irony from whomever designed the cover   

[Seven Copper Coins]

I have not said I am convinced it is a conspiracy, only that the official story is suspicious. And as for why Hitler did things, it will always be speculation, Hitler probably wasn't 100% sure why the fuck he did things, he was an angry anti-semite riddled with syphillis, and rage coupled with mental illness from his STD made it hard to think clearly.   I don't know what the motivation for 9/11 was, but the Government started a war based off the back of it, it implemented laws that strengthened the Governments power, it has now entered perhaps a never ending war on terror, ensuring huge military budgets and continuing arms sales.  One thing I know about human beings, is they are not rational creatures, and the more humans play in finance & politics, the less rational they become.

You are not convinced it's a conspiracy, but yet you are arguing for 15 pages it's a conspiracy.....ok then.

[daddy8ball]

                   This album released on the day of the attacks. What a bizarre irony from whomever designed the cover    

Maybe they did 9-11 in a misguided effort to increase album sales.

[quadzilla456]

OK - to turn that around....

If it was the conspiracy you say it was - where thousands of people were to be killed and billions lost....

Why have the buildings fall on their own their own footprints? Why not have them topple over & fuck up lots of other places?

Ask the Hierarchy that question - they know the answer.

[Tapeworm]

Would suckle the corn out of the shit out of her ass and make it into homemade nutella, spreading it across fresh, homemade bread from the villages.

There's just no stopping the giant snowball of stupid this thread has become.

[viking1]

[Seven Copper Coins]

That guy is straight up gangster.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

The COINTELPRO in this thread is almost out of control...

[arce1988]

  This was done by the USA. USA also let Japan destroy Pearl Harbor.

[Seven Copper Coins]

Just imagine if that gold watch was digital.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Small planes are not jumbo jets. That's like equalizing a dog being run over by a skateboard and run over by a tank.

Also, I ask you this: The WTC was a target for terrorists in the mid 90's. The WTC was a known target. Why go to the trouble of having a controlled demolition? Why try to hide this within the framework of an aircraft impact?

If this was a conspiracy -- if this was all to frame Al Qaeda and start a war..why not simply blow up the fucking building in a non-controlled manner after the plane hit? Why try to hide it? You'd invoke MUCH more fear if after the plane hit, building just blew the fuck up every which way in an obvious manner.

Then Bush could've said ...  LOOK! See! The buildings were wired by Al Qaeda!

What does he have to gain by a controlled demolition?

Because no one would believe that Al Qaeda actually had the know how to get access to these building and use explosives to bring them down...Planes into the buildings was a genius move.

[Tapeworm]

That guy is straight up gangster.

And that's just his chinning rig.

[daddy8ball]

Because no one would believe that Al Qaeda actually had the know how to get access to these building and use explosives to bring them down...Planes into the buildings was a genius move.

So, we're supposed to believe one genius move with the planes, but not the other genius move with access to the buildings?

Gotcha.

[arce1988]

  Red Army said that they told the USA that Japan was going to attack Hawaii. USA told China that they were going to let it happen. This was to justify using the Atomic Bomb on Japan and also entering World War Two.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Actually, it is here and it is there.

I just laid out a good case for an uncontrolled demolition. No matter who carried out the attack, there are advantages to BOTH sides using an uncontrolled demolition.

Bush - An uncontrolled, flashy explosion clearly frames Al Qaeda, causes more fear, and furthers whatever agenda he has.
Al Qaeda - An uncontrolled, flashy explosion causes more fear, more death, more destruction and sends a message it can access any American structure.

What is the advantage of a controlled demolition? Can you answer this question? Please don't address money, your propaganda theories, nazis, etc. Just answer this question:

What is the advantage of a controlled demolition?

The advantage of a controlled demolition guarantees that the buildings will be brought down to the ground and basically reduced in dust all on live TV for the biggest "SHOCK AND AWE" moment the world has ever witnessed. Blowing the buildings up at the base would most likely just make them topple over in an anticlimactic type of an event.

[daddy8ball]

The advantage of a controlled demolition guarantees that the buildings will be brought down to the ground and basically reduced in dust all on live TV for the biggest "SHOCK AND AWE" moment the world has ever witnessed. Blowing the buildings up at the base would most likely just make them topple over in an anticlimactic type of an event.

 Yeah, because the Towers falling down like Tiiiimmmber...and leveling entire city blocks would've been "ho hum". Gotcha.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

  Red Army said that they told the USA that Japan was going to attack Hawaii. USA told China that they were going to let it happen. This was to justify using the Atomic Bomb on Japan and also entering World War Two.

There's a couple of COINTELPRO posters in this thread that won't allow themselves to believe in what you just wrote no matter what the evidence is.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

So, we're supposed to believe one genius move with the planes, but not the other genius move with access to the buildings?

Gotcha.

The genius move with the planes was done by the Hierarchy who brought the buildings down. Not the silly box cutter theory.

[daddy8ball]

The genius move with the planes was done by the Hierarchy who brought the buildings down. Not the silly box cutter theory.

What about all the phone calls from hijacked passengers on the doomed planes to loved ones describing the box cutters. Were these faked by the Hierarchy?

[The Abdominal Snoman]

What about all the phone calls from hijacked passengers on the doomed planes to loved ones describing the box cutters. Were these faked by the Hierarchy?

Do you believe HAARP has been weaponized?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

[daddy8ball]

Do you believe HAARP has been weaponized?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

I'm not talking about HAARP. I'm talking about the outgoing phone calls by the passengers of hijacked planes describing arab hijackers with box cutters.

[Seven Copper Coins]

The advantage of a controlled demolition guarantees that the buildings will be brought down to the ground and basically reduced in dust all on live TV for the biggest "SHOCK AND AWE" moment the world has ever witnessed. Blowing the buildings up at the base would most likely just make them topple over in an anticlimactic type of an event.

Ha ha....are you really saying this...come on guy...please tell me you are trolling.