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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #150 on: June 19, 2013, 06:14:34 PM »

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« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2013, 07:02:47 PM »
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20130619/b431389/

Henry Cavill's Old Yearbook Photo and Sweet Dog-Walking Past Revealed!

Can you believe that Superman used to go by the nickname "Fat Cavill"?

An old (and kinda adorable) yearbook photo Henry Cavill from his early teen years found its way online—and, to be honest, it doesn't look a whole lot like the Man of Steel star we know and drool over today.

And though we're not seeing where anyone got the "Fat Cavill" thing, the British actor has openly talked about being a victim of bullying when he was younger because of his weight.

"I was fat, I was Fat Cavill," the now-30-year-old heartthrob told Details magazine. "I bawled on the phone to my mom four times a day. I became an easy target."

By the time Cavill was 17, however, he had dropped weight for his role in The Count of Monte Cristo and was already starting to look like leading-man material.

But, as tends to be the case for many aspiring actors, he needed a few side jobs along the way—like dog-walking!

Entertainment writer Gianna Mucci revealed today that Superman AKA Cavill once walked her dog, Buddy.

"I used to walk my rescued malamute, Buddy, by the new neighborhood tapas restaurant in West Hollywood, California, each night," she wrote on Yahoo Movies . "Buddy immediately took to Henry. And I must admit, so did I, almost immediately giving him the moniker 'Hot Henry.'"

A far cry from "Fat Cavill," indeed.

Mucci recalled that Cavill had offered to help her out by walking Buddy from time to time and she had no idea that he was brink of fame—until she heard that he had auditioned to play James Bond.

"It was a whirlwind. One second I saw him nightly and considered him my friend-slash-backup dog walker, and the next he was becoming a movie star. It still doesn't seem real."

The best part of the tale? When Mucci saw Cavill on The Immortals red carpet, and realized that, regardless of his indisputable arrival on the Hollywood scene, he was still the same sweet guy she knew.

"He immediately recognized me, hugged me and asked me about Buddy. Despite all that had changed in his life, he was still the same Henry—as humble and thoughtful as ever," she wrote. "Before Henry left to do more press, he looked down, and said quietly, 'I miss Buddy.' My heart melted. He was a movie star now, yet he genuinely missed my loving dog."

Looks like the actor formerly known as "Fat Cavill" is now one of the most handsome guys in Hollywood, inside and out.

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« Reply #152 on: June 19, 2013, 07:44:08 PM »
Will they ever make a real movie out of "Crisis on Two Earths"?


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« Reply #153 on: June 19, 2013, 08:34:21 PM »
Will they ever make a real movie out of "Crisis on Two Earths"?



Here's what we know:  Green Lamp doesn't work.  They will have to completely reboot him, given his movie was absolutely JUNK.  I don't know about Flash. A wonderwoman similar to Faora will be a slam if the right woman is placed in the lead.  Based on the Avengers' movie, a guy with arrows is bullshit, so Green Arrow won't work. I think Batman will get his hands on some of the kryptonian technology and modify his bat suit and gadgets, so he ends up being similar to owlman, more futuristic batman.  

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #154 on: June 19, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »

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« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2013, 11:26:55 PM »
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=81886

James Franco Gives His Thoughts On MAN OF STEEL; While Taking A Few More Shots At TASM

On The Amazing Spider-Man:


"I too have been in comic-book films—the Spider-Man trilogy directed by Sam Raimi. I mention the director because this distinction is now necessary in the wake of the new Spider-Man series that arose even before there was time to bury the corpse of the old one and enshroud it in the haze of nostalgia. Indeed there are still young children who approach me as fans of the original (boy, it seems weird to say that) series. I don’t have a huge emotional attachment to the Spider-Man franchise as a subject, my biggest sentimental ties are to the people I worked with on those films: Sam, Toby, Kirsten, the late and great Laura Ziskin, and the hundreds of others who worked with us. I don’t really feel much distress over its being remade, for many reasons, but what is interesting to me is that it has been remade so quickly—and the reasons why. The answer is, of course, money."


On Possible Bad Feelings Between He And Cavill


“Years ago we worked on a film together called Tristan and Isolde. I played Tristan and he played my backstabbing sidekick. My hunch is that he didn’t like me very much. I don’t know this for certain, but I know that I wouldn’t have liked myself back then because I was a difficult young actor who took himself too seriously.”


His Thoughts On Man Of Steel


"So, what did we watch? A great film.....Man of Steel is great because it delivers everything it should. It made Superman cool again. It delivered great action and interesting characters with a plot that was grounded enough to make us care a little....We love these movies because they’re so big, and damn, they’re all that we have. They aren’t going away, so we just have to keep hoping that they are, at the very least, well made."


What do you guys think? Is Franco right? There's no denying that TASM was VERY similar to Sam Raimi's first Spider-Man, while arguably not really improving on any aspects. Anyway, click on the link below for Franco's thoughts in full -- including a story about how passionate Henry Cavill was about playing Superman all those years ago when working with Franco.

http://www.vice.com/read/man-of-steel-the-super-movie

Last week I was asked to attend the London premiere of Man of Steel, so after working on my forthcoming little thriller at Pinewood studios, I went over to Leicester Square to see the latest filmic take on the superhero.

Many things went through my head, both subjective and objective, or rather as a person on the inside of the film business and as an indiscriminate viewer of the film. I too have been in comic-book films—the Spider-Man trilogy directed by Sam Raimi. I mention the director because this distinction is now necessary in the wake of the new Spider-Man series that arose even before there was time to bury the corpse of the old one and enshroud it in the haze of nostalgia. Indeed there are still young children who approach me as fans of the original (boy, it seems weird to say that) series. I don’t have a huge emotional attachment to the Spider-Man franchise as a subject, my biggest sentimental ties are to the people I worked with on those films: Sam, Toby, Kirsten, the late and great Laura Ziskin, and the hundreds of others who worked with us. I don’t really feel much distress over its being remade, for many reasons, but what is interesting to me is that it has been remade so quickly—and the reasons why.

The answer is, of course, money. We are in the film business, and the studios are owned by large corporations who want to make money. And in this art form, where so much is spent and so much profit can be made, one criterion for success is inevitably the financial. And when movies become so big that they can make $200 million in one weekend like The Avengers did, everyone from studios to filmmakers are going to want to get in on making comic-book movies. And when great directors like Sam Raimi and Christopher Nolan show that equally great characters can live within special-effects-laden films, then the comic-book genre becomes legitimized and great actors will follow. But the biggest reason, we cannot forget, is money. For all involved, it’s about being able to work with the biggest toys and the best people, because the product can support paying for them. And that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If you want to make a movie about a man who can fly and tear spaceships in half with his hands, then you need lots of money to make it look good. Otherwise you might as well keep the story in the comic books, where it costs much less to make superhuman feats look cool.

I was also at Leicester Square earlier this year for the premiere of my film Oz, when the red carpet was a yellow brick road, but the night I saw the new Superman, I arrived incognito: 1) because it wasn’t my film, and 2) because I don’t think Henry Cavill would have wanted to see me there. Not that we’re enemies. Years ago we worked on a film together called Tristan and Isolde. I played Tristan and he played my backstabbing sidekick. My hunch is that he didn’t like me very much. I don’t know this for certain, but I know that I wouldn’t have liked myself back then because I was a difficult young actor who took himself too seriously.

What Henry took seriously back then was Superman. He wanted to be Superman more than anything in the world. Personally, I’m not sure why. I missed the whole Superman-film phenomenon. I was more a fan of director Richard Donner’s Goonies and Lethal Weapon. I can understand the appeal the original Superman comics had for the WWII generation and its need for a hero to rid the world of evil, but in my days as a young man, this appeal was long outstripped by the cheesiness of the character’s suit and his douchey invincibility. But Henry was dying to do the Bryan Singer version of Superman that was being put together as we were shooting Tristan in Ireland and the Czech Republic in 2005. Henry was in the running but, in the end, he was passed over for Brandon Routh.

The night of the premiere I saw Henry from afar on the red carpet and knew this was the moment his whole life had been building toward. His dream had come true, and I was happy for him. It was the role he would have killed to do, with the right director (Zack Snyder: 300, Watchmen) and the right producer (Chris Nolan: The Dark Knight)—people who would keep the story and the characters focused, grounded by Chris’s regular team of David S. Goyer and Emma Thomas. If anything this was a project that must have made the people who made it very happy.

So, what did we watch? A great film. But what makes me say this? Is it the nerd revolution that has brought our public taste to the point where comic-book characters and video games are now cool? Are these huge comic-book films the way for the world at large to embrace the subjects of these forms that are traditionally relegated to the nerd niche? Yes, in a way. But in another way, we are just wowed by the money that brings them to fruition. Kids like comic-book-style heroes, teens like flashy action and sex, and therefore these films make money. Adults—the third audience—respect money. So these films are made. Again and again. And if Brandon Routh doesn’t work as Superman, or if Sam Raimi can’t agree on the villain for a fourth Spider-Man, they will just make new versions without them. Man of Steel is great because it delivers everything it should. It made Superman cool again. It delivered great action and interesting characters with a plot that was grounded enough to make us care a little.

In addition, to be fair, movies are fighting for their lives. With all the great television that is increasingly monopolizing good drama, and the video games that allow people to actively engage rather than sit back as passive viewers, movies need to offer something that these other forms can’t: big effects, 3D, and money, money, money.

But, in the end, why did I really walk away liking it? It wasn’t because of the film’s message. Maybe I sound naïve going to a film like this for a message, but images and themes are being thrown at me in 3D, so I want to know what I’m swallowing. One of the main reasons I liked it was because in this film, Superman’s S symbol stands for “hope” on the planet Krypton. Viewers discover that Superman is the symbol of hope for his dead race and simultaneously the symbol of hope for the human race. He hides his powers for the first 30 years of his life on Earth because his adopted father (Kevin Costner) believes that humans won’t be ready for him. In this way Superman is presented as a kind of Christ figure, given to Earth to save humanity. (A parallel that has been made many times before, I’m sure. Jesus Christ Superstar, anyone?) But sadly this Christ doesn’t teach any fishermen how to fish. He just does all the heavy lifting himself. If we are supposed to have hope in anything, it’s hope that Superman keeps fighting for good. If he doesn’t, we have no way of stopping him.

I guess that sounds a bit like the movie itself. We love these movies because they’re so big, and damn, they’re all that we have. They aren’t going away, so we just have to keep hoping that they are, at the very least, well made.

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2013, 11:31:44 PM »
And when movies become so big that they can make $200 million in one weekend like The Avengers did...

 :o

The movie was junk.  Who in their right mind would go back for a second viewing? 

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« Reply #157 on: June 19, 2013, 11:40:41 PM »
of course he didn't, just like when he trashed the guy's rig at the bar with telephone poles.  he operates within the parameters of the REAL world.  He'll save an oil rig full of men, but he'll destroy govt property or anyone, if they fuck with his mom or him.  i think that's about as real as he can get.  i  look forward to sups and doomsday putting over 1 Million in a cemetery.  8) 

i have no interest in seeing another lollipop superman.
besides he could destroy whatever the fuck he wants with pretty much no consequences, who's going to stop him? its a big fuck you to the us government.

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« Reply #158 on: June 19, 2013, 11:41:23 PM »
  His trainer put him on PED

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingLeonidas/news/?a=81171

Henry Cavill refused to take Steroids for MAN OF STEEL

Henry Cavill tells USA Weekend that neither would he take steroids to play Superman nor would Gym Jones train him if he did. Plus, new image from a photoshoot.

Playing a superhero isn't just laughing your way to the bank. Henry Cavill spoke to USA Weekend in detail about the immense physical effort and discipline that goes into a role like this, specially Superman, the biggest, buffest and greatest Superhero of them all.

On why it was important to him to transform his body
It was a big responsibility. It was very important to represent the character’s physicality in the right way. I was living and breathing Superman. I just wanted to do this right.

On being impressed with his own transformation
I have shrunk down to a more normal size now. You should have seen me then. I was considerably bigger. There are a couple of shots of me that I think, ‘My goodness. I was definitely a large chap.'

On avoiding steroids to achieve his physique
(Mark Twight) asked, ‘Would you like to use steroids or HGH (human growth hormone) to get to where you want to go?’ I immediately said no. And he said, ‘Good. Because if you did, I wouldn’t train you.’ To take a shortcut to get to that place is not what Superman represents. That was important to me.

On would he be ready to again train so hard for the sequel
Absolutely. Yes, it was hard work. Yes, there were points I thought I couldn’t do it. But you can do it. And I did.

You can read the rest of the article at USA Weekend.
http://www.usaweekend.com/article/20130607/ENTERTAINMENT01/306070008/Supersize-me-How-Henry-Cavill-transformed-into-the-new-Man-of-Steel

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2013, 07:18:55 AM »
I think putting Bale's Batman into a future Superman movie would kill the Superman franchise.  It would just show you how much better Batman is. Bale's acting would dwarf Cavill.  Just like how Robert Downey jr. owned the Avengers, they could have just named the movie "Tony and Friends"  Putting batman into Superman you know he would steal the movie and Supe would be a sideshow.

As for a wonder woman reboot.  She needs to be a cold ruthless woman and get rid of the red blue and gold costume.  A tough bitch like Faora.

The green lantern.  What a fucking horrible movie.  They need to keep GL as a sideshow in any upcoming DC movie but on his own it doesn't work.  The only thing worst would be a standalone aquaman film.

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« Reply #160 on: June 20, 2013, 07:24:01 AM »
I think putting Bale's Batman into a future Superman movie would kill the Superman franchise.  It would just show you how much better Batman is. Bale's acting would dwarf Cavill.  Just like how Robert Downey jr. owned the Avengers, they could have just named the movie "Tony and Friends"  Putting batman into Superman you know he would steal the movie and Supe would be a sideshow.

As for a wonder woman reboot.  She needs to be a cold ruthless woman and get rid of the red blue and gold costume.  A tough bitch like Faora.

The green lantern.  What a fucking horrible movie.  They need to keep GL as a sideshow in any upcoming DC movie but on his own it doesn't work.  The only thing worst would be a standalone aquaman film.


Having an eventual Wonder Woman/Faora faceoff would be fantastic, but make no mistake if forced to do it Diana would snap Faora's neck.....she's snapped necks before LOL.

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #161 on: June 20, 2013, 07:33:21 AM »
Enjoyed the movie but for me Cavill doesnt have as much screen presence as Reeves.  Reeves and Zod owned every scene they were in.

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #162 on: June 20, 2013, 07:43:55 AM »
Who could do Wonder Woman justice though? Playing against someone like Antje?

Meryl Streep? Glenn Close? Whoopi Goldberg?

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #163 on: June 20, 2013, 07:52:58 AM »
I think putting Bale's Batman into a future Superman movie would kill the Superman franchise.  It would just show you how much better Batman is. Bale's acting would dwarf Cavill.  Just like how Robert Downey jr. owned the Avengers, they could have just named the movie "Tony and Friends"  Putting batman into Superman you know he would steal the movie and Supe would be a sideshow.

As for a wonder woman reboot.  She needs to be a cold ruthless woman and get rid of the red blue and gold costume.  A tough bitch like Faora.

The green lantern.  What a fucking horrible movie.  They need to keep GL as a sideshow in any upcoming DC movie but on his own it doesn't work.  The only thing worst would be a standalone aquaman film.



this is the closest thing i've seen to a wonderwoman i like, but it's animated.  based on green lantern animations, you would have thunk he would have made a good live action hero.  that makes me wonder about wonder woman, since she could be a joke like catwoman.  



Having an eventual Wonder Woman/Faora faceoff would be fantastic, but make no mistake if forced to do it Diana would snap Faora's neck.....she's snapped necks before LOL.

i'd love that but i'm 50.50 he left faora for apocalypse, because he knows the auidence won't buy into a supergirl. and part needs a female kryptonian.  as ridiculous as it seems, faora is a test tube soldier but she is a follower, so she can be influenced.  i could see her tied into the dark side of batman, looking for something after the death of zod.  they have some cool ass options.    



faora is a better setup for this meeting.  8)

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #164 on: June 20, 2013, 07:56:50 AM »

 they have some cool ass options.   
Yes they do!!

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« Reply #165 on: June 20, 2013, 08:01:56 AM »
Yes they do!!

i think what people have to remember is, nolan would have re-introduced the joker in the trilogy if heath had lived.  he gets that option in sups' trilogy.

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« Reply #166 on: June 20, 2013, 08:39:15 AM »
Last night, I saw Man of Steele and I thought it was a great film.

The visuals (special effects) were beautiful. The moments prior to his takeoff from the ground, where the circular revolutions would form as he clenched his fists to the ground were very indicative of the kind of power this SuperMan yielded. The ripples of white clouds that would form as he would cut through the blue skies in flight was also a very nice touch. Even as he would emit solar beams from his eyes, I like that they showed the vasodilation of small capillaries surrounding the eyes to truly bring a sense of authenticity to the actual superhuman ability.  

The actor (Henry Cavill) chosen to play the role of SuperMan was excellent in his portrayal and emotional depictions. His screams alone infused emotions onto that screen that was enough to move audiences. I even felt that in certain instances he resembled Christopher Reeves enough to make that generational connection between the different age groups in the audience. Russell Crowe's acting is in a league of its own, so not much needs to be said there. Laurence Fishburne was great, as he typically is in any role given to him. I also found the Kryptonians (Zod & Fiora) to be pretty good in their acting.

The fight scenes were very good and on par with the type of fights you would see in the Avengers, Incredible Hulk, X-men and/or IronMan movies. I was glued to the screen just trying to keep up with the many exchanges SuperMan would have versus the Kryptonians.

The story line was pretty good. It appeared to me as a remake of the original (Superman-1978 film) with the 3 Kryptonians, although only two were brought to light with the ogre Kryptonian ("NON" who was originally played by Jack O'Halloran) from the late 70's Superman movie being portrayed by a Giant Kryptonian whose face we did not see.

I think that with Christopher Nolan on board, as well as Henry Cavill and his star-studded, supporting cast, this new SuperMan franchise has a great chance at doing what the Dark Knight franchise did, while possibly earning much more at Box Office.

Great movie!

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #167 on: June 20, 2013, 08:56:24 AM »
I really liked it.  I've been waiting for a well made, serious Superman movie for decades.  But......

Lois Lane was a fat, boring, dog. 

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #168 on: June 20, 2013, 09:00:44 AM »
Last night, I saw Man of Steele and I thought it was a great film.

The visuals (special effects) were beautiful. The moments prior to his takeoff from the ground, where the circular revolutions would form as he clenched his fists to the ground were very indicative of the kind of power this SuperMan yielded. The ripples of white clouds that would form as he would cut through the blue skies in flight was also a very nice touch. Even as he would emit solar beams from his eyes, I like that they showed the vasodilation of small capillaries surrounding the eyes to truly bring a sense of authenticity to the actual superhuman ability.  

The actor (Henry Cavill) chosen to play the role of SuperMan was excellent in his portrayal and emotional depictions. His screams alone infused emotions onto that screen that was enough to move audiences. I even felt that in certain instances he resembled Christopher Reeves enough to make that generational connection between the different age groups in the audience. Russell Crowe's acting is in a league of its own, so not much needs to be said there. Laurence Fishburne was great, as he typically is in any role given to him. I also found the Kryptonians (Zod & Fiora) to be pretty good in their acting.

The fight scenes were very good and on par with the type of fights you would see in the Avengers, Incredible Hulk, X-men and/or IronMan movies. I was glued to the screen just trying to keep up with the many exchanges SuperMan would have versus the Kryptonians.

The story line was pretty good. It appeared to me as a remake of the original (Superman-1978 film) with the 3 Kryptonians, although only two were brought to light with the ogre Kryptonian ("NON" who was originally played by Jack O'Halloran) from the late 70's Superman movie being portrayed by a Giant Kryptonian whose face we did not see.

I think that with Christopher Nolan on board, as well as Henry Cavill and his star-studded, supporting cast, this new SuperMan franchise has a great chance at doing what the Dark Knight franchise did, while possibly earning much more at Box Office.

Great movie!

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i know you're gay, but wtf about faora in 4:30?  >:(


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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #169 on: June 20, 2013, 09:01:38 AM »
there was quit a bit of chest hair peaking out of the top of the Superman suit in the neck area

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #170 on: June 20, 2013, 09:03:32 AM »
i know you're gay, but wtf about faora in 4:30?  >:(

What about her?

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Re: Just saw Man of Steele - (Warning-Spoilers Inside)
« Reply #171 on: June 20, 2013, 09:06:22 AM »
there was quit a bit of chest hair peaking out of the top of the Superman suit in the neck area

HAHAHA, I thought the same.  I was like ???  Superman is a hairy man.

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« Reply #172 on: June 20, 2013, 09:26:45 AM »
What about her?

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what's your review of her performance, fool?  i'd contend she is the best villainess ever, even better than michelle pfeiffer's catwoman.

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« Reply #173 on: June 20, 2013, 09:34:21 AM »
what's your review of her performance, fool?  i'd contend she is the best villainess ever, even better than michelle pfeiffer's catwoman.

Well, she received limited screen play in my opinion.

Is she an attractive female? Sure. She isn't stunning, but certainly easy on the eyes.

Was her limited script acted out well? Absolutely.

Is she the best villainess of all time? That's highly debatable. When Rebecca Romijn played Mystique in the X-men movies, her acting and action scenes were pretty impressive. The field for female villains isn't very broad, so to make such a blanketed statement would be difficult to justify.

I think she should have gotten more screen time and a more dialogue in order to gauge her overall potential.

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« Reply #174 on: June 20, 2013, 09:36:05 AM »
what's your review of her performance, fool?  i'd contend she is the best villainess ever, even better than michelle pfeiffer's catwoman.

Don't push it.  Ivana Onatopp was smoking hot.