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If Obzama and his ghetto fat pig wife crashed in AF1 on a trip to Kenya I would not give two shits whatsoever 

I think your views are shared by millions of people accross this nation.  I firmly believe that Biden would do less damage.   :D

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1401 on: July 13, 2013, 06:35:08 PM »
From News Max:

Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz says the prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial should be charged with "prosecutorial misconduct" for suggesting the defendant planned the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

"That is something no prosecutor should be allowed to get away with … to make up a story from whole cloth," Dershowitz told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

"These prosecutors should be disbarred. They have acted absolutely irresponsibly in an utterly un-American fashion."

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Zimmerman, a 29-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer, is charged with gunning down Martin, 17, as the two fought following a confrontation in the gated Sanford, Fla., community where Zimmerman lives — an act the defendant said was in self-defense.

In the prosecution's final argument on Friday, lawyer John Guy said Zimmerman deliberately followed Martin and "shot him because he wanted to."

Dershowitz called Guy's statement "such speculation. How does he get into the mind of Zimmerman? He hasn't cross-examined him, he hasn't met him.

"To ask the jury to believe that is to ask the jury to convict based on complete and utter speculation and that's not the way the law operates."

A day earlier, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda said Zimmerman — whom he labeled a "wannabe cop" — "followed" and "tracked" Martin after profiling him as a criminal.

Dershowitz said not only should Zimmerman have not been charged with second-degree murder, but prosecutors should not have pushed to have manslaughter and child abuse added to the list of possible jury verdicts.

"[It's] utterly irresponsible. … The idea that the prosecution can try the case on a murder theory and then, at the last minute, substitute manslaughter, even though it seems to be permitted generally under Florida law — it's a big mistake to allow it in a case like this,” he said.

"And then the very idea of even suggesting child abuse in a case like this is so irresponsible."

Dershowitz praised the closing argument of defense lawyer Mark O'Mara.

"He did the right thing by being methodical and factual because this is a case where the prosecution's case is all emotion and the defense case is all factual," the famed civil-rights lawyer said.

"Emotionally, obviously everybody can identify with a young, unarmed 17-year-old who ends up dead, and emotionally, as President [Barack] Obama said, he's all of our children."

Dershowitz — whose clients have included Claus von Bulow, Mike Tyson, Patricia Hearst, and former televangelist Jim Bakker — said the case has "reasonable doubt" written all over it.

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"Nobody knows who started the initial physical encounter, who threw the first blow — and if you don't know that you have to have a reasonable doubt," he said.

"Nobody knows for sure who screamed, 'Help me, help me.' You have to have a reasonable doubt about that. Nobody knows for sure who was on top and who was on bottom, though the overwhelming forensic evidence suggests that Zimmerman was on the bottom having his head banged by a younger, stronger man. You have to have reasonable doubt there."



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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1402 on: July 13, 2013, 06:41:15 PM »
Translation:  The True Adonis was talking out of his ass (when he claimed there were witnesses to Trayvon attacking Zimmerman).

It's OK, TA, we are still GB brothers.  I just don't get why some of you pro-Zimm guys need to lie about the facts exaggerate.  After all, I think it's indisputable that Zimm has a pretty good chance of not being convicted of any crime over this without that shit.  The civil trial might not work out so well for him, though, I think.  (Not to mention any, uh, "street justice".)


John Good told the jury today that he yelled "stop" at both men shortly after realizing that what he at first assumed to be a dog attack was actually two men grappling on the ground.

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"I said cut it out. I'm calling 911 because it was getting serious," said Good.

Good testified that he saw what he believed to be Martin on top of Zimmerman.

"The color on top was dark and the color at bottom was…red," Good said referring to the men's clothing.

At another point he told the court that the person on the bottom had "lighter skin color."

Zimmerman is a white Hispanic who was wearing a red and black jacket that night. Martin, who was black, was wearing a dark sweatshirt.

"The person on the bottom, I could hear a 'Help,'" he said.

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1403 on: July 13, 2013, 06:46:09 PM »
good doog point.wtf did zimmerman thin from the beginning how this gonna end, chasing someone in thedark alley.

if ppl say it was fatsos right to defend himself, then it was treayvonn right to defend himself too.

i mean, what you do when a mexican is chsing you in a dark alley
Thats not what happened.

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Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1404 on: July 13, 2013, 06:54:34 PM »
2nd degree murder = not guilty
Manslaughter = guilty
Looting and rioting = affirmative.


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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1405 on: July 13, 2013, 06:56:39 PM »
Not guilty on all charges+ a 2 piece meal with a biscuit and tons of rape to follow.

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1406 on: July 13, 2013, 06:58:58 PM »
verdict coming!!!

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1407 on: July 13, 2013, 07:00:27 PM »
Not Guilty!!!!

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1408 on: July 13, 2013, 07:00:41 PM »
NOT GUILTY....told ya :D

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1409 on: July 13, 2013, 07:01:19 PM »
Not guilty baby.  Let the riots commence.  Lol

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1410 on: July 13, 2013, 07:01:53 PM »
Wow!!

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1411 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:09 PM »
LOVE IT!

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1412 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:11 PM »
Fuck, guess I better get the ammo cans out.   :o

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1413 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:27 PM »
Are you seriously suggesting that GZ had just sort of forgotten he was carrying a gun when he got out of his car to follow Trayvon?  That is highly unlikely. 
Can you not read? I said he didnt specifically go get his gun becauese he had thw intent to confront Martin. He had the sidearm on him prior to even seeing Martin.

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1414 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:16 PM »
Well that was a surprise.
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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1415 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:18 PM »
that sucks he could have gone to prison and lift weights build up his biceps, become a bottom boy leave prison does g4p and become famous.

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1416 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:29 PM »
Not guilty baby.  Let the riots commence.  Lol

This ^^^

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1417 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:54 PM »
  Like OJ, he will fuck up again, and wind up in Prison for the rest of his life.

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1418 on: July 13, 2013, 07:03:59 PM »
Not Guilty!!!

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1419 on: July 13, 2013, 07:04:04 PM »
I feel great right about now

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1420 on: July 13, 2013, 07:04:41 PM »
Obama in meltdown 

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1421 on: July 13, 2013, 07:04:43 PM »
Well that was a surprise.
???

No it wasn`t.  If anyone was actually looking at the facts and evidence its not.  Only morons thought it would go the other way.

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Re: George Zimmerman - Guilty or Innocent?
« Reply #1422 on: July 13, 2013, 07:05:50 PM »
i thought he was not guilty the whole time... confirmed...

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1423 on: July 13, 2013, 07:05:56 PM »
 Like OJ, he will fuck up again, and wind up in Prison for the rest of his life.

I don't think so. Zimmerman didn't lop off two people's domes, flee, get caught with a fake glasses, fake mustache and nose with his blood all over the place.

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Re: Verdict reached, speak now or forever hold your peace.
« Reply #1424 on: July 13, 2013, 07:06:40 PM »
I feel great right about now

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