OTH'S 60 day diet, pics in

[Big Chiro Flex]

HRT test + low dose anabolics works for me, I have run a LOT more in the past for pretty much no return but a lot of bloat and huge round potato head look.

I wish my body would utilize higher doses, but its maybe a good thing it doesn't.. otherwise I would probably be abusing a ton of shit.

This!

Until I stop growing off of the above doses, this is my game plan!

[chaos]

Shredded glute pics

[Palpatine Q]

Damn I didn't know you were a fellow low-doser. Never woulda guessed.

I'm the same way. I'm still a rookie with this but the 1g/week mark is mentally a line I can't fathom crossing. I trained natty for so many years and have such an appreciation for what gear does, I could just cruise on a liberal HRT dose and feel like I'm fuckin Ronnie Coleman 

I'm sure I'll hear some squeaking and squaking from some "experts"  but I've Never run over 350 mgs. Of tren a week... ever.

That's it .  That's all I take.  Lately been bridging with a dry prohormone... and this would constitute the most gear I have ever taken...1000% truth.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I'm sure I'll hear some squeaking and squaking from some "experts"  but I've Never run over 350 mgs. Of tren a week... ever.

That's it .  That's all I take.  Lately been bridging with a dry prohormone... and this would constitute the most gear I have ever taken...1000% truth.

I believe you dude. I believe you and I have both been accused incessantly of gear use back before when we were both legitimately drug free. Not everyone needs grams a week to be single digit bodyfat and weigh 220+.

[Palpatine Q]

I believe you dude. I believe you and I have both been accused incessantly of gear use back before when we were both legitimately drug free. Not everyone needs grams a week to be single digit bodyfat and weigh 220+.

Careful...well be knee deep in trolls who can tell you exactly what compounds you are on, and how much....just by looking at a 9 megapixel selfie. 

[bigmc]

I'm sure I'll hear some squeaking and squaking from some "experts"  but I've Never run over 350 mgs. Of tren a week... ever.

That's it .  That's all I take.  Lately been bridging with a dry prohormone... and this would constitute the most gear I have ever taken...1000% truth.

some of the new pro hormones are hardcore

[BigCyp]

some of the new pro hormones are hardcore

Haha yes, I used a couple of bottles PH's last year, only ran it for 6 weeks but even my liver made legit gains 

[Nomad]

I'm sure I'll hear some squeaking and squaking from some "experts"  but I've Never run over 350 mgs. Of tren a week... ever.

That's it .  That's all I take.  Lately been bridging with a dry prohormone... and this would constitute the most gear I have ever taken...1000% truth.

epistane and tren?

[Palpatine Q]

epistane and tren?

Posted a pic of the bottle in this thread...discontinued.

[D.O.U.P]

I'm sure I'll hear some squeaking and squaking from some "experts"  but I've Never run over 350 mgs. Of tren a week... ever.

That's it .  That's all I take.  Lately been bridging with a dry prohormone... and this would constitute the most gear I have ever taken...1000% truth.

I can relate.

I've never, repeat never, used more then 400 mgs of legally prescribed anabolics in a week.

If I could handle it, I would use more. My body and mind revolt when I go over 300mgs per week.

[OTHstrong]

Shredded glute pics

sorry bro, we are all relieved and finally have some maturity around the gossip section, posting a glute shot will only bring back the troll and the board will be once again infected with a miserble cancer of epic proportions.

How about a video of me deadlifting 6 plates per side    to make up for it, oh wait a minute, that won't work, you will just call me a pansy for wearing straps. 

[Mawse]

same, this seems to be the case with many of the above average geneticaly gifted, but not elite genetics, at some point between 500-1000mg weekly, its all sides and bloat anymore.maxed out and thats that.

can add bit gh at that point, but that will be it, thatll be the max.

the "next" natural limit.this is where it stops for many.

I read that the east Germans found the DNA markers for response to anabolics for their Olympic athletes, and it varied up to 4 x , meaning an elite athlete would get 4 x the response from a low dose that a normal man would. I don't know how it scaled with mega doses since they were just testing low doses that wouldn't get them caught.. but it makes sense ppl with great responses blow up on 500mg a week

OTH post the vid!

[ProudVirgin69]

i think unless very small frame, if one cant be 10% at 6ft height and 220lbs, better to find new hooby.

its not easy, diet and training must be good, and its not a rewarding look, but that should be the natural base -foundation.

if one cant get that, pointless to go steroids route, fuck all will happen.

many ppl could get there, but theyre copletely oblivious to both training and specialy diet

I disagree, some people that can't get anything done as a natural will BLOW UP on the juice.  And vice versa.

Not much correlation between ability to grow as a natural and the ability to grow on juice

[Big Chiro Flex]

I disagree, some people that can't get anything done as a natural will BLOW UP on the juice. 

I've never known ONE single person who fits the description you just posted about.

[King Shizzo]

I've never known ONE single person who fits the description you just posted about.

Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath, Tom Prince, Fux, Wheeler, 

[Big Chiro Flex]

Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath, Tom Prince, Fux, Wheeler, 

Yeah cuz they had terrible physiques and genetics before they started juicing  

Please leave this thread.

[King Shizzo]

Yeah cuz they had terrible physiques and genetics before they started juicing  

Please leave this thread.

They had normal physiques. Drugs made them.

[arce1988]

[Mr Nobody]

Basile finally won Mr Universe.

[King Shizzo]

i can tell you about fux.

the guy came from rural area to city and benched 5plates within a year.age 20.

was absolutely massive.

i seen him in person,right face to face when bulked up, lol, i cant find word to describe the sheer size of the guy.

the guy had more muscle on him at age 20 before he knew whats training than most npc amateur competitors ever develop.


indeed, shizzo, fuck off and die already please

You hate me because I am right.

[Big Chiro Flex]

They had normal physiques. Drugs made them.

Spoken like a guy who has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. No offense. But you have no clue.

[King Shizzo]

Spoken like a guy who has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. No offense. But you have no clue.

I have every clue. I read Flex.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I have every clue. I read Flex.

 

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Shizzo: 1

[King Shizzo]

one can tell shitzo has never lifted, and on top of that, one can tell he wasnt anywhere near the training crowd kinda ppl.

something like a group of 5 frends, who start training together for fun and all eat the same shit, at home what parents cook, then post workout meal at mcdonalds, then first protein shakes etc, the making of.
then they all jump on first mild cycle and still eat like shit, usualy one of them will look particularly good, the rest soso,1 will look like shit(the shitso kinda guy, natural born estrogen face).

oftne that best looking guy even takes the least amounts.

it is what it is.

What does this have to do with you looking like shit? You are not impressive. You are the type of guy that goes missing in a medium t-shirt.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I have every clue. I read Flex.