New Yorkers Health Insurance Drop by 50%

[Primemuscle]

just never get sick ,then this is a non issue

Easier to say when you are a young person. When I was in my twenties and thirties I never gave a second thought to medical insurance. At 69 it gains new importance.

Oh wait, don't you live in a socialist country where medical insurance is a non-issue?

[Gonuclear]

The Explosion in Healthcare Premiums in One Convenient Chart

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/81096-explosion-healthcare-premiums-founding-fathers-apparently/

That's one point of view.  Keep in mind that actuaries are responsible for analyzing how long people will live, given their age and health.  The Affordable Healthcare Act is going to put a bunch of them out of work.  Consider their motives for this "projection".

Here's another point of view:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/27/1779961/dishonest-attack-obamacare/

[Coach is Back!]

That's one point of view.  Keep in mind that actuaries are responsible for analyzing how long people will live, given their age and health.  The Affordable Healthcare Act is going to put a bunch of them out of work.  Consider their motives for this "projection".

Here's another point of view:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/27/1779961/dishonest-attack-obamacare/

Anything from "Think progress" or anything with a Soros stamp on it should be deemed exempt.

[The_Hammer]

The CBO projects that premiums will go down.

Bill Clinton remarks on the ACA (Obamacare) using facts provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

[Coach is Back!]

The CBO projects that premiums will go down.

Bill Clinton remarks on the ACA (Obamacare) using facts provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

Hahahaha, its already set. The increases begin in 2014. Seriously, hammer, when has this clown ever told the truth? lmao

[The_Hammer]

bump

[Coach is Back!]

Bump what?.hahahahaha

[Ropo]

My healthcare insurance is a Medicare Advantage Enhanced Plus plan with Regence. Currently my premiums are about $250 a month. Broken down, about $100 is for Medicare and about $150 is for the enhanced coverage. Each year my out of pocket expenses go up. Last year for my wife and me they were over $8,000.

One can only hope that the runaway charges for medical care will be rained in with the Affordable healthcare act. Something needs to change. Folks with no medical coverage end up being a drain on those of us who pay for protection from out of site medical expenses.

You know your incomes, so just calculate how many percent of your income goes to paying those bills. From the income of 50 000 per year that 8000 is 16% added to your taxes. You pay already a lot, so in reality you would pay less with obamacare. 

[Roger Bacon]

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[oldtimer1]

The NY Times is a liberal Obama loving rag. They are the best paper in the world and they tell every one that at every opportunity. Obama's budget to "educate" the public on Obama care is over 600 million. Soon the first 20 or so searches on Obama care will be positive propaganda singing it's praises. The truth is being spun for the fools who voted him in. Can wait to see the commercials on tv that money will buy.

Insurance companies are already getting out of certain areas like Aetna did in NY. Business of close to 50 won't expand. Many businesses are making full time employees part time employees. People in lower pay ranges are going to get a huge tax break to buy their insurances in the health exchanges. This is from a government that wants to raise the debt ceiling, print more money without backing and who wants to make ends meet with borrowing money from foreign governments like China.

This thread has to be put out by Benny under a different name.

[The Showstoppa]

We're a liberal state ran by morons. I would expect nothing less.

Absolutely. And a barometer for what the rest of the US is headed for.  My brother bailed on CA a few yrs ago.

[Coach is Back!]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-report-tennesee-men-face-290-women-197-obamacare-hike/article/2536363

[Mr Nobody]

We dont give a damn. If you got to go to the hospital they will try to save you insurance or no insurance it's a rip off.

[youandme]

NEW YORK TIMES--

Individuals buying health insurance on their own will see their premiums tumble next year in New York State as changes under the federal health care law take effect, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced on Wednesday. State insurance regulators say they have approved rates for 2014 that are at least 50 percent lower on average than those currently available in New York. Beginning in October, individuals in New York City who now pay $1,000 a month or more for coverage will be able to shop for health insurance for as little as $308 monthly. With federal subsidies, the cost will be even lower.

Continued...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/health/health-plan-cost-for-new-yorkers-set-to-fall-50.html?_r=0

NYT reporters must be doing their own math these days.

[Necrosis]

I live in Washington, and I can guaran-fucking-tee you that my premiums are going nowhere but up. My mother, who works for the school district, is seeing her premiums skyrocket for coverage that is being throttled back. Pretty horrible.

anecdotal stories are the best evidence.

[delta9mda]

Some of you voted for this asshole. Thanks. Lol

[Croatch]

I'm not sure why people always worry about catastrophic insurance, etc.  If you have a bill of 500k, just don't pay...real simple.

[Primemuscle]

I'm not sure why people always worry about catastrophic insurance, etc.  If you have a bill of 500k, just don't pay...real simple.

Sure, let someone else cover your medical expenses. This is how it has been for some time and look how well it's worked out.

[Primemuscle]

NEW YORK TIMES--

Individuals buying health insurance on their own will see their premiums tumble next year in New York State as changes under the federal health care law take effect, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced on Wednesday. State insurance regulators say they have approved rates for 2014 that are at least 50 percent lower on average than those currently available in New York. Beginning in October, individuals in New York City who now pay $1,000 a month or more for coverage will be able to shop for health insurance for as little as $308 monthly. With federal subsidies, the cost will be even lower.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/health/health-plan-cost-for-new-yorkers-set-to-fall-50.html?_r=0

According to an article in the Oregonian today, Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield just sent out letters to their under-insured customers (folks who only buy catastrophic coverage) to notify them of increased premiums and coverage. The change/increase in coverage is required to meet the requirements of the affordable health care act. These folks will end up with better medical coverage, but they will also have to pay for it.

[The True Adonis]

The Explosion in Healthcare Premiums in One Convenient Chart

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/81096-explosion-healthcare-premiums-founding-fathers-apparently/

Its raising because Obamacare eliminates Pre-Existing conditions so the companies have to make up for the loss of profit from denying care to suffering humans.

Sick Industry that needs to be done away with.  We need true Universal Healthcare like the rest of the civilized world. 

[Heywood]

If you don't have health insurance, then you are taxed more?
If this is the case, are you covered for any hospital visits?

If you do not sign up for the Obamacare Exchange/Marketplace, you will find a new penalty on page 2 of your 2013 Form 1040, (which you will be paying on 4/15/2015).

The penalty is NOT insurance.

At least, this is what I understand at this point.

[The Showstoppa]

Its raising because Obamacare eliminates Pre-Existing conditions so the companies have to make up for the loss of profit from denying care to suffering humans.

Sick Industry that needs to be done away with.  We need true Universal Healthcare like the rest of the civilized world. 

Would rather have seen a 1 yr limit on anyone who wants to buy health insurance can (excluding newborn children) with pre-existing conditions being considered.  After that , they should be on their own.  Now we will still see turds only buy coverage when they become ill.  Kinda like buying fire insurance on a house after it catches fire.   

[Heywood]

Would rather have seen a 1 yr limit on anyone who wants to buy health insurance can (excluding newborn children) with pre-existing conditions being considered.  After that , they should be on their own.  Now we will still see turds only buy coverage when they become ill.  Kinda like buying fire insurance on a house after it catches fire.   

exactly.

Help, I need auto insurance.....I just hit a car....I have a pre-existing condition.

[The True Adonis]

Would rather have seen a 1 yr limit on anyone who wants to buy health insurance can (excluding newborn children) with pre-existing conditions being considered.  After that , they should be on their own.  Now we will still see turds only buy coverage when they become ill.  Kinda like buying fire insurance on a house after it catches fire.   

The whole thing is bullshit.  You are born with DNA that can encode for cancer cells.  You are born with a heart with a certain capacity of limitation.  Virus and disease can be contracted easily and unknowingly.  There is no such thing as "pre-existing".  Its always pre-existing at some point.

The Private Health Insurance Industry is a sick and deranged scam.  I still can`t believe this is how healthcare operates in the United States.  Its an illogical waste of money hinged on making money off of human misery by not covering things and jacking the price up to make up for not being able to deny coverage.

Yet, you and others support this nonsense.  Very strange to me and very stupid.

[The True Adonis]

exactly.

Help, I need auto insurance.....I just hit a car....I have a pre-existing condition.