since my delts are really under developed, what am i doing wrong?

[BRO]

The only way to find out if its over training or not is to lay off that volume of exercise for a few weeks, and see the results.

[DroppingPlates]

The more we say 'overtraining', the more reps A'halo will add to his shoulder regimen.. That's his stubborn nature.

[Henda]

I split em.  Fronts with chest.  Side and rear with back.

Push torso


Pull torso

interesting approach, never thought of that before.

Will be trying this in future.

[anab0lic]

having good shoulders is really a lot to do with your clavicle width...no amount of drugs food or weights will change that.

[ProudVirgin69]

The real danger from overtraining is developing tendinosis , that's a real bitch to cure.

I do delts after chest, ever four days, every couple of weeks I start my "press" day with hs behind the neck presses.

But yes

Genetics

Yup, especially on juice the muscles can take just about whatever you throw at them.  Lol at the idea of "delts" getting overtrained.

OP, do side raises, side raises, side raises.  Start w/ 25-30 pounds, do them until failure.  Drop 5 pounds and do that set until failure.  Repeat for a grand total of 5 sets of side raises.  Overhead press is shit for deltoids.

Keep your pinkies slightly higher than your thumbs.  And remember: delts push the weights OUT, traps pull the weight up If you can master that, you will get your shoulders to grow

[ESFitness]

i'm an ectomorph and my delts are great... so that's no excuse.

you're doing wayyyy to much volume, IMO.

I hit shoulders yesterday. seated btn press in a smith machine 3 sets 12-15... then did 2 light sets with elbows in front of my body, bar down to chin level for 12 reps.... then to front raises with an ez-bar, palms up on the outside grips. 3 sets of 10, went up to 60 on the last one... nothing heavy.... then 2 sets of wide grip upright rows with maybe 60lbs... then 3 "drop sets" of bent-arm laterals with only 20's for 10 dropping down to bands for another 8-10.... 13 sets total, none were heavy.. the first set of btn press were light and probably didn't need the upright rows, but I wanted to get some blood in my traps.

As Bob Chic said, "I've never seen a guy improve a bodypart by training it more often".

I'd say keep it simple.

3 sets of a pressing movement
3 sets of something to the front
and 7 sets FST7-style of something to the side.

train rear delts at the end of back day with a few sets of machine rear-flyes or bent over db flyes.

[Primemuscle]

todays delt workout was typical

4 sets of seated military, 6-10 reps with 70kg (first set 10 reps and then less)

4 sets of seated dumbell press 6-10 reps 30kg

4 sets bent over dumbel raise about 8-10 reps 16kg then 14kg

4 sets of standing dumbel raise 8-12 reps 16kg then 14kg

4 sets chest on bench rear delt raises dumbels 8-12 reps with the 12kg ones

4 sets of delt machine with the cushions on the elbows to take the elbow joint and forearm out of the picture 8-12 reps

I have trouble developing my delts too. Lately, I have increased the reps, starting at 15 and working down to 8 with lighter resistance on most exercises. I do between 4 and 6 sets on each exercise. When my energy level is high,  I superset standing front and side lateral raises as well until I get a really good burn.  As a result, my delts are gradually looking more defined and rounded. Over the years, I seen fellows who handle massive weight on exercises like overhead presses and yet appear to have small delts. On the other hand, I've noticed that guys who do a lot of set/reps using strict from and lighter resistance have better defined delts.

Change is good. Whatever you are doing, if it isn't working for you, change it up.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I have trouble developing my delts too. Lately, I have increased the reps, starting at 15 and working down to 8 with lighter resistance on most exercises. I do between 4 and 6 sets on each exercise. When my energy level is high,  I superset standing front and side lateral raises as well until I get a really good burn.  As a result, my delts are gradually looking more defined and rounded. Over the years, I seen fellows who handle massive weight on exercises like overhead presses and yet appear to have small delts. On the other hand, I've noticed that guys who do a lot of set/reps using strict from and lighter resistance have better defined delts.

Change is good. Whatever you are doing, if it isn't working for you, change it up.

Normally your posts are old man ramblings about gay things involving Tbombz, but I've gotta give you credit where it's due....it's pretty fuckin cool that at age 94, you're still crushing it in the gym, trying to improve your physique. Good for you bro 

[ESFitness]

I have trouble developing my delts too. Lately, I have increased the reps, starting at 15 and working down to 8 with lighter resistance on most exercises. I do between 4 and 6 sets on each exercise. When my energy level is high,  I superset standing front and side lateral raises as well until I get a really good burn.  As a result, my delts are gradually looking more defined and rounded. Over the years, I seen fellows who handle massive weight on exercises like overhead presses and yet appear to have small delts. On the other hand, I've noticed that guys who do a lot of set/reps using strict from and lighter resistance have better defined delts.
Change is good. Whatever you are doing, if it isn't working for you, change it up.

I think delts are a lot like calves.. (or any other bodypart), some guys will have nice round, capped delts no matter what they do, just like some guys will have big 'ole diamond shaped calves no matter what they do.... i'm lucky I got the delts. lol. (and triceps)... too bad I didn't get the genes for chest.

I think anybody can improve their back and quads... even biceps, but if you don't have the genes for delts, calves, or triceps (flat tri's, high tie-in's).. you're kinda screwed.

[anabolichalo]

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[DroppingPlates]

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[anabolichalo]

Does it suck even harder than losing those last 3 hairs?

maybe i have more hair than you do

you seem to be really pre occupied with hairloss


people without hairloss or at least unaware of their hairloss hardly notice threads about hairloss


they glance over them not even noticing them


you sound like a closet balder

[ukjeff]

maybe i have more hair than you do

you seem to be really pre occupied with hairloss


people without hairloss or at least unaware of their hairloss hardly notice threads about hairloss


they glance over them not even noticing them


you sound like a closet balder

post a pic of your hair.

[DroppingPlates]

maybe i have more hair than you do

you seem to be really pre occupied with hairloss


people without hairloss or at least unaware of their hairloss hardly notice threads about hairloss


they glance over them not even noticing them


you sound like a closet balder

Nice try, but both granddaddies had good hair, zero baldness in the family
This is a good indication about my current hair condition, should I worry?

[tommywishbone]

Do that for a couple years twice a week and get back with us.

This.  Also throw in 275-300 grams of protein EVERY SINGLE DAY for two years.  Don't forget 500 mg's weekly of the Test of your choice.   See you at the evening show.

[cswol]

Your shoulder workout should only be like 20 minutes, 2 to 3 sets of military superset back and front, front raise, side laterals, and bent rear delts, upright row, and maybe another lift, hit light upper chest at the end of workout too, this will force blood in that area of shoulders, 30 minute workout tops

[anabolichalo]

Nice try, but both granddaddies had good hair, zero baldness in the family
This is a good indication about my current hair condition, should I worry?

î dont believe it

people with good hair dont go on and on about it

[anabolichalo]

This.  Also throw in 275-300 grams of protein EVERY SINGLE DAY for two years.  Don't forget 500 mg's weekly of the Test of your choice.   See you at the evening show.

what about overall calories? you mentioned protein

THANKS

[DroppingPlates]

î dont believe it

people with good hair dont go on and on about it

What's new? You only believe in God & Galeniko 
I just laugh about your hair obsession, no reason to lie.

[anabolichalo]

What's new? You only believe in God & Galeniko 
I just laugh about your hair obsession, no reason to lie.

i also believe in

onetimehard

wiggs

bfg

and many more

[DroppingPlates]

i also believe in

onetimehard

wiggs

bfg

and many more

And don't forget the GOAT & Tupac

[doriancutlerman]

The more we say 'overtraining', the more reps A'halo will add to his shoulder regimen.. That's his stubborn nature.

I can't help but to like A-halo, but you're right.

IMHO, a proper shoulder routine doesn't need tons of volume.  If you've not stimulated the fuck out of your front delts from training pecs with flats and/or inclines, you've obviously pulled a Jenova and done something terribly wrong   Medial delts = high pulls, some manner of lateral raises.  Rear delts -- lots of face pulls, rear delt machine shit and ultra wide-grip BB rows to the chest.  Work in some John Meadows stuff and a weekly session of Reeves deads and your shoulders won't suck for long.

Increased training frequency will help to a point, but as a rule of thumb, the more often you train a bodypart, the fewer to-failure sets you should do (IMO).  In other words, if you can do DB presses with a pair of 110s and fail at the 8 rep mark, stop at six reps. 

Hope that helps at least a little. 

[anabolichalo]

The more we say 'overtraining', the more cc's A'halo will add to his streroid regimen.. That's his stubborn nature.

fixed

[DroppingPlates]

fixed

Still on 300mg test e only?

[anabolichalo]

Still on 300mg test e only?

yes everytime i want to up it you come along to remind me about hairloss