Author Topic: SHAWN RAY. Your thoughts about Skip Lacour. (Read 23932 times)

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #50 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:22:42 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 06:14:29 PM

i dont know who joe and frank are, but if they are finishing in the top 10 in the heavyweight class at the usa's, then yeah, they probably arent completely natural.

believe what you want, but a guy came on here admitting the guys he trained that were winning the musclemania shows were using. how much more proof do you need? you think they were the only winners to use? if you think a non-user can compete with a user that does evreything else right and has decent genetics for putting on muslce, you are crazy. the guy even said the judges know the guys are using when 240 thought he was going to be smart and "report" these guys to the musclemania organization.

again believe what you want, but i've talked to a ifbb pro in venice, a guy that knew everyone and trained with numerous ifbb pros there, and even trained with a guy that was using that did a natural show, they all said the same thing, if you want to compete, you have to use.

skip is either the greatest ever or a liar. i'm not betting on greatest ever.

Joe and Frank were just random names, Einstein. I was just trying to understand your point. Are you saying that ANYONE (not just Skip) who wins a major natural competition isn't really natural. No one None. Zippo. Zero.

Is that what you are saying?

So wheree do you think the "real" natural on those shows place? 5th or 6th? 8th or 9th? Is that too high?

The real winners in natural bodybuilding shows are the guys who place out of the money right?

It's not possible for a real natural bodyuilder to win a natural show.

I'm just trying to understand what you are saying.

Dan-O · « **Reply #51 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:23:42 PM »

"I know guys who claim to be natural and use, therefore everyone who claims to be natural uses."

And wtf does the Musclemania show have to do with the IFBB World Amateur Championships? Like they're both on the same level and have the same testing standards and everything.

That's brilliant. Just brilliant. Can't argue with that.

joejoe · « **Reply #52 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:30:47 PM »

sorry to hurt your poor little feelings norton and dan-o about your idol, but a bodybuilder is still a bodybuilder and most are compulsive liars, even the nice ones.

mwb, at the highest levels at the higher weightclasses, then yeah, they probably arent completely natural.

need more proof?

kai greene won musclemania or team universe, one of those shows. he also finished in the top 15 at the ny pro beating jason artnz and other name bodybuilders. so now naturals can beat pro users? hahahaha

joejoe · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:32:14 PM »

Quote from: Dan-O on December 28, 2005, 06:23:42 PM

"I know guys who claim to be natural and use, therefore everyone who claims to be natural uses."

And wtf does the Musclemania show have to do with the IFBB World Amateur Championships? Like they're both on the same level and have the same testing standards and everything.

That's brilliant. Just brilliant. Can't argue with that.

what are you talking about? skip competed and won in musclemania shows as well.

Norton · « **Reply #54 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:35:20 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 06:30:47 PM

sorry to hurt your poor little feelings norton and dan-o about your idol, but a bodybuilder is still a bodybuilder and most are compulsive liars, even the nice ones.

mwb, at the highest levels at the higher weightclasses, then yeah, they probably arent completely natural.

need more proof?

kai greene won musclemania or team universe, one of those shows. he also finished in the top 15 at the ny pro beating jason artnz and other name bodybuilders. so now naturals can beat pro users? hahahaha

More solid proof!

JoeJoe you are awesome. Clairvoyant even.

I mean you can just see right through these dirty liers. And the incredible evidence you have is irrefutable. Who could Begin to even argue with it?

joejoe · « **Reply #55 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:38:10 PM »

hey norton, are you using cell-tech? you should. its 1950% better than regular creatine.

Norton · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:42:29 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 06:38:10 PM

hey norton, are you using cell-tech? you should. its 1950% better than regular creatine.

No way there are steroids in that. I mean I know they say it's natural but come on. A guy told a friend of my cousin's that he read it somewhere that there were steroids in that.

So there's proof right there. In fact that's joejoe proof! Can't get any more proof than that!

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:48:43 PM »

Joe Joe for President! [/color]

Double XL · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2005, 06:58:07 PM »

yooo dude, Doooooo
skip da man yooo

things that make you go hmmm.....

peace out yo, i love you guys, doooooo

S. Ray

joejoe · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2005, 07:25:17 PM »

heres a little question all you dorks should ask.

when is the last time you ever heard of someone being disqualified for failing a drug test at a musclemania, team universe, or world championship show? i can admit, anyone who fails the drug test is an idiot. its not rocket science to be clean when you know the day of the test.

but, when is the last time you ever heard of someone being disqualified for failing the lie detector portion of the test? everyone admits drugs are a part of natural bodybuilding, so where are all the disqualifications? they cant all be great liars.

but keep believing all these guys are natural even though virtually no one is ever disqualified, a guy comes on here and admits his guys that are winning the shows are using, and admits the judges know they are using.

and dont forget, cell tech is 1950% better than regular creatine.

Norton · « **Reply #60 on:** December 28, 2005, 07:40:27 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 07:25:17 PM

heres a little question all you dorks should ask.

when is the last time you ever heard of someone being disqualified for failing a drug test at a musclemania, team universe, or world championship show? i can admit, anyone who fails the drug test is an idiot. its not rocket science to be clean when you know the day of the test.

but, when is the last time you ever heard of someone being disqualified for failing the lie detector portion of the test? everyone admits drugs are a part of natural bodybuilding, so where are all the disqualifications? they cant all be great liars.

but keep believing all these guys are natural even though virtually no one is ever disqualified, a guy comes on here and admits his guys that are winning the shows are using, and admits the judges know they are using.

and dont forget, cell tech is 1950% better than regular creatine.

Damn! More solid proof!

But the kicker is "a guy comes on here and admits his guys that are winning the shows are using, and admits the judges know they are using"

I mean how can you argue with that?

Ata boy joejoe.

Disgusted · « **Reply #61 on:** December 28, 2005, 07:54:32 PM »

Don't forget guys that Shawn has a new car, new job, new house new marriage, new baby new................. BTW Shawn what is your new job? No matter what you ask Shawn he will always let you know what's new.

joejoe · « **Reply #62 on:** December 28, 2005, 07:55:05 PM »

you registered 6 days ago norton, you have no idea what you are talking about.

instead of continuing to be an ignorant dumbfuck, ask 240 about team THE GAME.

joejoe · « **Reply #63 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:00:41 PM »

damn norton, 120+ posts in your first 6 days.

are you trying to overtake 240 as getbig postwhore?

Borracho · « **Reply #64 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:04:09 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 08:00:41 PM

damn norton, 120+ posts in your first 6 days.

Maybe the bb.com forum is down right now. This kid is really gullible, don't waste your time on him.

Norton · « **Reply #65 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:04:12 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 08:00:41 PM

damn norton, 120+ posts in your first 6 days.

are you trying to overtake 240 as getbig postwhore?

Do you have a problem with that?

Norton · « **Reply #66 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:05:29 PM »

Quote from: Borracho on December 28, 2005, 08:04:09 PM

Maybe the bb.com forum is down right now. This kid is really gullible, don't waste your time on him.

I guess when you get called out and you can't respond, change the subject.

Borracho · « **Reply #67 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Norton on December 28, 2005, 08:05:29 PM

I guess when you get called out and you can't respond, change the subject.

prove it!

joejoe · « **Reply #68 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:16:12 PM »

i did the work for you norton, you can thank me by not being an idiot any longer.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=44134.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=46138.0

read it, and now stfu

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #69 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:28:46 PM »

Disgusted............Now you know how I roll.
Dont Hate.

Norton · « **Reply #70 on:** December 28, 2005, 08:56:40 PM »

Quote from: joejoe on December 28, 2005, 08:16:12 PM

i did the work for you norton, you can thank me by not being an idiot any longer.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=44134.0

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=46138.0

read it, and now stfu

Hey joejoe, did I miss something? What does this have to do with Skip being drug free?

Norton · « **Reply #71 on:** December 28, 2005, 09:00:04 PM »

Quote from: Borracho on December 28, 2005, 08:08:21 PM

prove it!

Prove what?

Dan-O · « **Reply #72 on:** December 28, 2005, 09:00:38 PM »

joejoe's "logic" is more convoluted than the plotline of an M. Night Shyamalan movie.

Norton · « **Reply #73 on:** December 28, 2005, 09:01:42 PM »

Quote from: robocop on December 28, 2005, 01:37:00 PM

your'e a joke too.

Speak the truth.

John hansen is a honest guy he admitted using gear in the past.

What does this have to do with Skip?

joejoe · « **Reply #74 on:** December 28, 2005, 09:20:55 PM »

"Hey joejoe, did I miss something? What does this have to do with Skip being drug free?"

you really arent that bright arent you? it has nothing directly to do with skip, just more evidence in the case against him.

but, it directly has to do with this:

"But the kicker is "a guy comes on here and admits his guys that are winning the shows are using, and admits the judges know they are using"

I mean how can you argue with that?"

because you are an ignorant dumb**** that didnt know wtf he was talking about when i was talking about alimini.

keep drinking the kool-aid, maybe skip will send you a dvd.