Thing here is 99.9% of the people dave has dealt with personally have pretty much never trained without drugs and were already on them for 10-25 years before the age of 40 including himself and already tapped out.
2 things that annoy me, people who have never used AAS(including those who have done 1 8-12 week cycle in their life) giving advice on drugs, and people who have spent 99.9% of their training life on drugs giving drug free people advice.
That's also another reason palumbo is so fucked up with his joints etc, because he was a 120lbs twink marathon runner who abused the fuck out of juice the day he walked into the gym and was basically putting 285lbs on a frame meant to hold 120lbs of twink.
Look at some of those pics of him when he was sick and off the juice, especially his stick legs in that one wheelchair pick. Guy basically had the frame of zane trying to hold the size of marcus ruhl
