1. I dont come here to worry about spelling correctly and writing complete sentences etc. I spend a good portion of my day worrying about such things and I dont feel like this is so important I need to spell/grammer check everything. I work in the financial services field, specifically I work as an anlyst for a group of financial advisors...and you RRKORE what do you do for a living?
2. I never said you asked me in the post I quoted I addressed it there b/c it was relevant to the discussion at that point and adding an additional post would have created a longer and more drawn out thread
3. YES you did ask me what I meant by succesful? specifically you asked if I meant happiness instead of successful and NO, I DIDNT...
4. Im not arguing for abstinence although that is a better choice than 3 kids before you turn 30 or get a high school diploma...DONT YOU THINK?
LOL What I am arguing for it making better choices like using condoms, birth control pill or any of the plethora of other contraception readily available these days of which YES ABSTINENCE IS ONE...
5. I agree their choice in mate was equally as bad as their choice to have unprotected sex resulting in multiple children before 30 and without a high school education.
6. B/c liberals such as you and abraham need to understand that the majority of ppl receiving govt assistance are ppl who are simply down on their luck. In the majority of cases THESE PEOPLE MADE HORRIBLE LIFE DECISIONS and it shouldnt be other peoples mandated responsibility to take care of them.
I'm a Software Quality Assurance Engineer by title. But not by education at all. I lucked into the position, haha. (It's completely true.)
An old buddy of mine called me out of the blue just as I was really wanting to quit a management job that sucked (I hate being in charge of people, I came to learn) so I came to his company which, as a pre-condition to taking on new contractors, had a 2-day training and then a test. I did very well, worked for them as a contractor for about a year, and then was hired on full-time. All about 11 years ago. By education, I was a foreign language major at a top public university. I did not finish my degree. (Here's the thing about advanced foreign language education -- after a certain point, it feels like an english class so fuck that.) Unlike you, apparently (I could be wrong), I've never seen money as worth a lot of effort to get. I'd feel differently if we were immortal but we're not. Since an early age I've felt that if we're just gonna die anyway, then as long as you have enough money to stay away from stressful situations, that's enough. I still feel pretty much the same way except I need a little more money now that I have a young wife and a kid that I don't want to leave in a bad spot when I die. It's always been clear to me that financial "success" and happiness are not at all the same thing. You DO need some financial success to avoid unhappiness, however. Hopefully that distinction is clear to you.
Anyway, I'm not sure what concession you're really after. Do I think those on the dole have some responsibility for their plight? Sure, but bad luck (not to mention some sort of systemic unfairness) has surely played a role also. You're finally acknowledging this a little bit and that's great. BTW, I notice that you say that "In the majority of cases..." (which is admirably honest and accurate on your part) people have dug their own graves, but then you go on to say that others shouldn't have to pay for their bad choices. I might agree with this a little bit but how would you distinguish between the ones who fate just fucked and the ones who are polluting the gene pool? (This is the kind of thing, btw, that a libertarian would say.) Unless you've committed some horrendous crime, everyone deserves some happiness, don't you think? It's funny -- You'd think you were the big believer in luck/fate the way seem to be saying to most of those who depend on others to live, "Accept your fate!, I will not be told to help you." These are your fellow humans, your fellow Americans. Did you not get enough hugs as a kid? Sorry, that was dickish and maybe completely off-base.
You remind me of this slightly older guy I used to train with back in high school (he did not go to my school, though) who I reacquainted myself with on FB after losing touch for over 20 years. So freakin' depreessing to me that this guy (who always was kind of socially retarded and weird but not stupid -- he had a bad stutter largely, I think, because of his scary asshole dad who terrorized their whole family) was still in the same town, still single (he's decent looking, actually), semi-retired (because of good investments) but has never been out of the country (barely out of the state, really) who was trying to convince me he's happy because he owns 2 houses and a bunch of vehicles. Of course, he was trying to convince me of how happy he is after initially complaining like a mofo about, well, everything including "the abysmal dating situation" for guys his age back because I started giving him real advice on how to improve his life. What it comes down to, with him (and I hope not for you) is that he sees no value at all in spending money on anything that he can't get some financial return on at a later date. So, spending money on trips, food, and... Ah, shit. I gotta go -- I just got an email from these guys in Taiwan (it's almost 11am there) I'm working with and I've gotta write up some shit for my team. Anyway, don't be like my dumbass friend and vaya con queso. Gotta go chase paper (or some such shit).
Oh, btw, your spelling and grammar are irksome. No matter how many exclamation points you use, you can still use an occasional apostrophe. I promise. Later.