Sorry about your situation, friend. Maybe it's just a temporary thing. Hang in there, you're young.
Thank you my friend, i too hope this will be a passing thing.
Dude, you ve been conditioned by life to end that way, you didnt choose any of it. It s biological just like me you re the sum of who spwaned you; your parents were probably both headcases too. Noone can help you, sorry that's the truth.
You're probably true in regards that part of my problems are genetically destined to be more likely for it to occur with me as well. My mother has been forcefully committed twice in the last 2 years for trying to commit suicide after years of depression and benzo/alcohol addiction. (also sleep problems) My father is an alcoholic but he doesn't think he is himself.
I was addicted myself to speed and cocaine from my 15th till my 22nd. I used everyday and easily went from party to party days after nights after days. So all the years of drug abuse probably have taken a toll on my brain as well.
But the thing is, when i found training/bodybuilding 5/6 years ago i said goodbye to all my old friends and quit everything and started living healthy. It changed me, bodybuilding saved my life in a way. But now all of the sudden after 5 years i am having these fucking sleep problems, i dont want to take any more medication i want to go back to normal.
And its not just as simple as thinking it away, especially when you are there in bed thinking about how you re going to wake up tired as shit the next day and start the same cycle again.
Wow Dude, thanks for sharing. I have sleeping issues also, I can sleep, but my cycle is all fucked up, longer than 24 hrs, so I go to bed later and later each day. I then have to manipulate my sleep using sleep deprivation or forcing myself to stay awake to get the cycle back to a normal schedule, but essentially my sleep pattern has been fucked up for years. I hate it !
Good Luck dude, that was a really honest and forthright post. I wish you all the best.
Thanks bro. Yeah i am going to try sleep deprivation therapy again and hope that it works this time. My cycle is fucked as well seeing as i wake up 3 hours later in bed and my body just thinks this is normal now for some reason.
I really from the start of my problems found it really weird that you could wake up from mental problems so long. I thought it was something physical, but all sleep studies have found nothing physical wrong with me. (as in sleep apneu and that shit.) I even went under full narcoses to have a study done that would see if my throat collapsed during sleep, but nothing. Now i know it was probably all the stuff i had to do at that time, all the stress started the viscous circle. And now i am still in it for no reason, i am just in it, still in this shitty sleep.
All the problems are in my head, but i can't think them away. The problems have really become my life in its whole, and i know it shouldn't! I shouldn't give it this much attention, i am only feeding it. But i already tried ignoring it for months but i'm still fucked lol.
In the states I believe GHB can be prescribed to people who have narcolespy. I don't know how easy or hard it is to be prescribe it but telling your Doctor that you fall asleep at a drop of a hat in strange places may be a start...GHB induces deep REM sleep. So 3 hours of sleep on that shit is really all you will need. Sure it opens up a whole other can of worms but like you said, sleep is EVERYTHING!
I used GHB recreationally in the past, but it is not an addiction i would like to restart. I'm already addicted to the fucking benzos.
The remeron gives me 3 hours of deep sleep but sadly 3 hours a day is not enough for a period of months. (at least not for me, there might be people who can cope with continuous very little sleep i dont know)
But i am going to be prescribed concerta (type of long acitng ritalin) in a week, to use during the day to stay more alert and awake and give me more rest in my head. (they think this might help with my sleep problems in the long run as well)
I in 2011 crashed my car, my girlfriend and I broke up after 6 years and my dad died all within 6 months. I am still dealing with the depression from it all and yes have sporatic sleeping, I can sleep about 3-4 hours straight then wake up then I'll be up and down all night I tried Ambien it did nothing. Tired as hell all the time.
I am sorry about your problems man. I know the feeling, at least of the no sleep. Maybe you can ask your doctor about remeron (mirtazapine) it is prescribed off label for insomnia. (in lower doses then it is used for anti depressant effects) It is non addictive and at least in the start it helped me to sleep a couple of days fully(for my mother it helped her completely at 7.5mg for sleep).
http://www.sleepio.com/articles/sleep-aids/mirtazapine-and-sleep/At lower doses it is ok, but in the higher doses i feel it is just adding to the daytime tiredness. The side effects of higher doses are to hard to cope with, at least to me. (that's why i am cutting down on it currently)
on the other hand test and other bbing drugs can help
On that note, Does anybody know if nandrolone exhibits the same effects in regards as to testosterone? I still have a lot of vials lying around, if all else fails and i am just abandoned by normal healthcare i will go on a fucking life long cycle. I have been postponing this cycle for months now, thinking it might not be smart to go on cycle again while i am having these problems.
When i was on for a year i knew i felt the happiest in my life.
No problems, no pain(i have no cartilage in my right knee any more) and no stress!
