More Crossfit Brilliance

[Pray_4_War]

dude, i have been in lots of gyms all over the place and i see shit like that in all of them. i should take pictures of the one i'm at now (which is a USAPL gym with record holders), they have lots of wacky phrases on the walls. plus i've been in loads of smaller privately-owned gyms that get those animal pak ads.

side note: whining about shit on the walls? really? oh no, WORDS WRITTEN DOWN. how AWFUL.

no, it's not about being butthurt, it's about no one ever saying anything BUT the nonsense and flaming. criticism is fine. ignorant flaming is aggravating, especially when the criticisms are baseless.

Words plastered all over your gym represent what you are about.  I would not train at a place that did that.  Anyone who does is deserving of mockery.  It's not ignorant and baseless criticism either.  It's criticism based on photos like the one above.  You have your standard bullshit like "pain is weakness leaving the body" and such but the above photo goes way beyond normal idiocy.  That is full retard.

Understand it's not one person or one gym slogan that rubs people the wrong way.  It's the entire Crossfit culture that breeds this shit.

[Palpatine Q]

Yeah, because no bodybuilder in ANY of the BTFO has ever said stupid shit about how hard it was to train and get on stage.  How they 'go to war' in the gym.....'do battle' on stage.  Maybe how the weight will 'never destroy' them.  How superior they are to everyone else because they can eat their boiled chicken breasts and 5.5oz of broccoli with their meals.  

Bodybuilders are the biggest egomaniacs and pretentious bunch of fucks there are.  Give me a CF chick over some he-she Nationals competitor any day

I don't do any of that and I think it's stupid too.

just like the dumb shit written on that Hangar.

[MisterMagoo]

I don't do any of that and I think it's stupid too.

just like the dumb shit written on that Hangar.

but is that in any way unique to crossfit? my high school gym had stuff everywhere, too. are you gonna tell me high school football is horrible? come on, use your head.

P4W, i'm not arguing that crossfit culture sucks. i'm not. i'm usually in CF communities complaining about the hivemind, and i emphatically will not use a CF box for that very reason. but that doesn't mean crossfit as an exercise protocol is terrible. it just means that, right now, it's got a lot of idiots in it.

but think about this, too: CF gets people interested in deadlifts, squats, pullups, and olympic lifts. sure, you can say it's done wrong, but they're still into that. it's a fitness program that says "this is hard, and that's not a bad thing". it's the first "fad" fitness that doesn't tell people "in just three days a week, only 15 minutes a day, it's easy!" it gets people into hard work for exercise. how is that bad?

i crossfit using Brandon Lilly's Cube Method (you may know him as a powerlifter on the Juggernaut team with Chad Smith), at a USAPL gym. i identify as crossfit but i'm not part of a crossfit club and i don't wear WODKILLA shirts or anything. all i'm asking is for people to realize that you can't make sweeping statements about a vague concept like "multi-dimensional athletics training" based on a few little anecdotes.

plus, c'mon. it's a girl with no belt pulling 295. who gives a shit what's on the wall, that's good work.

EDIT: and look a few threads above this one about the synthol idiot. using the worst CF pics and videos to claim CF is awful is like looking at that guy and saying it's proof bodybuilding is retarded.

[Coach is Back!]

So what is the definition of "worlds strongest man"?  What was the point of mentioning that you are sandwiched between two CF places?  Its about as relevant as a steak joint being sandwhiched between two italian restaurants. 

You're right, it's not relevant. Just pointing it out.

The reps and the recovery of the lifts.  Ohhhhh.  So you have the magic number that allows athletes to not get injured or overtrain?  How come you don't keep pulling of stupid bodybuilding videos or workouts where they expose 100 rep sets of squats, deads, leg press, etc.  Where articles talking about resting 30 seconds in between sets for maximal growth?  Yes, she made a stupid jump in weight.  No one in a powerlifting competition ever made a stupid jump like that?  Is that what you are trying to say Joe?  PLEASE PLEASE tell me that you're not that dense.

1. Yes, there is an approximate number. Reps and recovery go hand in hand what the energy systems dictate (ATP/CP /Glycolitic /Aerobic 2. In a REAL Strength and Conditioning protocol, the indicator lifts (O-lifts, Bench, Squat, DL) are done first in the lifting part of the program FIRST and usually by themselves simply because they are the lifts that will wake up the CNS and at the same time stay within the ATP/CP (1-5 reps -2-4min recovery). If I decide to add other exercises in addition to the indicator lift (example would be Squat, Chin, core exercise) there would be a 2min recovery. Why? Because if I'm stupid enough to program AMRAP for time, you can bet mechanics would break down and lead to an injury.

Yes, I am making fun of you Joe.  Your "progression" thing is so damn relative.  Its a fucking buzz word with you.  Its like saying "just cut calories".  Easy to say, but there is no definitive amount.  There never is.  I love the generalized approach you take to the training with CF.  I will say this again, you take a FEW examples and then say everyone is doing that.  Again, please tell me you arent that dense.  Yes I will compare WSM to CF.  Have you ever taken a look at some of the events they have in the WSM???  You want to talk about very little rest time and often at high rep lifting???  So many of their events mimic olympic lifts.  Here is an example...

Overhead Log Lift

Competing singly,  athletes will lift a wooden log from the ground then raise it overhead as many times as possible in the time limit; returning the weight back to the floor in a controlled fashion before attempting to do the next lift.

The winner will be the one who completes as many lifts as possible within the time limit.

Weights: 115kg – Time limit: 75 seconds

Wait a sec.....wait a sec....isn't that similar to something.  I know it.....hmmm....oh yes....THE CLEAN AND JERK (in this case a power clean and power jerk).  250lb+ log lifted as many times as posible in 75 seconds.  I know exactly what you are going to say "But the CF workouts last so much longer".  1) The weights arent that heavy and 2) more often than not there is something in between the lift (opposite movement)

Very good point but this is the thing, in strongman there is an expectation of injury and true strongman training isn't done with newbe exercisers when they first walk into the gym....like crossfit. Why in the hell would I have someone do an OH press if they have a history of shoulder problems??

[Palpatine Q]

but is that in any way unique to crossfit? my high school gym had stuff everywhere, too. are you gonna tell me high school football is horrible? come on, use your head.

P4W, i'm not arguing that crossfit culture sucks. i'm not. i'm usually in CF communities complaining about the hivemind, and i emphatically will not use a CF box for that very reason. but that doesn't mean crossfit as an exercise protocol is terrible. it just means that, right now, it's got a lot of idiots in it.

but think about this, too: CF gets people interested in deadlifts, squats, pullups, and olympic lifts. sure, you can say it's done wrong, but they're still into that. it's a fitness program that says "this is hard, and that's not a bad thing". it's the first "fad" fitness that doesn't tell people "in just three days a week, only 15 minutes a day, it's easy!" it gets people into hard work for exercise. how is that bad?

i crossfit using Brandon Lilly's Cube Method (you may know him as a powerlifter on the Juggernaut team with Chad Smith), at a USAPL gym. i identify as crossfit but i'm not part of a crossfit club and i don't wear WODKILLA shirts or anything. all i'm asking is for people to realize that you can't make sweeping statements about a vague concept like "multi-dimensional athletics training" based on a few little anecdotes.

plus, c'mon. it's a girl with no belt pulling 295. who gives a shit what's on the wall, that's good work.

EDIT: and look a few threads above this one about the synthol idiot. using the worst CF pics and videos to claim CF is awful is like looking at that guy and saying it's proof bodybuilding is retarded.

You and I have no quarrel dude.  I don't discriminate...I'll laugh at the guy with ILS and a five gallon jug of water just as readily as the "I am crossfit" drone who thinks they are a "Spartan". silly is silly.

just talking shit on the net brother...when I'm in the gym I don't give a fuck who is doing what.

[Coach is Back!]

coach, i really WANT to respect you for what you've done over the years and for how much passion you obviously have, but you make it really fuckin hard.

what you repeatedly do is sift through as much as you possibly can to find the videos of CFers either having accidents or just messing around and use that as "evidence" that the whole thing is terrible, while completely glossing over every equally bad video of powerlifter, weightlifters, bodybuilders and the like.

so you know what? i'm gonna leave this here.

that's glenn pendlay. you may know him as a man who's forgotten more about weightlifting than you've exaggerated that you know. he's rather up on crossfit. you, on the other hand, are an angry little man who seems to make initial judgment about things and then will not let any new information sway your opinion (which, frankly, explains your politics).

so continue on hating on crossfit. you know what's a lot better than crossfit? filling your body with drugs so you can look good shaved, oiled, and in a thong in front of cheering men. mmmmmmm-hm. much better.

I'm not going to get into who knows more, but after 40 years of this, I do know a few things along with the thousands of dollars I put out each year to make sure I keep up. I'm not going to disagree with anything he said, he's right on all of it. BUT THAT WAS NOT MY POINT!!

[MisterMagoo]

coach, all i'm askin is that you admit that you're being unfair with your crossfit posts. for every video you have of someone falling down doing an oly lift i can find one of someone doing the same damn thing under a TRUE coach. for every video of a stupid exercise there's a hundred of people getting into hard lifting and learning the sport.

just stop being ignorant. you're passionate about fitness and exercise. act like it.

[MisterMagoo]

You and I have no quarrel dude.  I don't discriminate...I'll laugh at the guy with ILS and a five gallon jug of water just as readily as the "I am crossfit" drone who thinks they are a "Spartan". silly is silly.

just talking shit on the net brother...when I'm in the gym I don't give a fuck who is doing what.

LOL absolutely man. i know you're good people. i just feel like a man without a country here because i CF and it get shat on so much. we're all in the gym getting it done, right?

all i'm asking is don't let those fucking idiots make it seem like we're all like that! 

[Krankenstein]

1. Yes, there is an approximate number. Reps and recovery go hand in hand what the energy systems dictate (ATP/CP /Glycolitic /Aerobic 2. In a REAL Strength and Conditioning protocol, the indicator lifts (O-lifts, Bench, Squat, DL) are done first in the lifting part of the program FIRST and usually by themselves simply because they are the lifts that will wake up the CNS and at the same time stay within the ATP/CP (1-5 reps -2-4min recovery). If I decide to add other exercises in addition to the indicator lift (example would be Squat, Chin, core exercise) there would be a 2min recovery. Why? Because if I'm stupid enough to program AMRAP for time, you can bet mechanics would break down and lead to an injury.

Yes you were just pointing it out.  Doesn't make it any more irrelevant.  Just like when you brought up how you "crushed" the CF guys at a meet.  Who the fuck cares.  They talked shit and got beat.  Like no athlete you ever coached talked shit.  guy please

Exactly...an approximate number.  Something no one knows exactly.  I would imagine there are guys who don't have a great 1-rm but can bang the shit out of reps.  You can toss out energy systems all you like.  But thats not the answer to what I asked.  An athlete can get injured on the 1st or the 10th rep.  Is it the energy system that failed causing it?  Doubtful.

For your information Joe, the best of the CF coaching used that protocol.  If you look at my log, you will see that stuff.  Olympic first, then Strength, then my conditioning.  So, am I not doing things right?  Know who Diane Fu is?  She likes to program EMOM in her olympic lifts.  Care to go up against her in Olympic lifting experience?  I would hope not.  I love how you spew out the recovery cycle for all these energy systems.  So, when you train a football player....do you tell them that they must take a "2 min recovery from maximal effort" between plays so that they don't get injured?  Christ on a cracker...CF stuff isn't doing 90%+ maximal efforts exercise after exercise.  Have we not pointed out this at least a million times??  You just are too obtuse to accept it.  Love the little terms "indicator lift" to sound more technical than it is.  

Do you think its the fault of CF or someone who THINKS they are a good coach that has people do shit from day #1 that they shouldn't.  Show me ANYWHERE that CF says to put someone under a weighted bar their first day in the gym.  Let me save you some time....there isn't.  Just like someone walking into a gym and thinking they know the mechanics of a squat and they start loading up a bar for some good ol' fashion 1/4 rep low back busters.  Speaking of which...maybe this would be a good time to break out some videos of Branch Warrens form or Johnny Jacksons form on exercises.  Talk about poor execution and injury.  How many newbie trainees copy/emulate them and get hurt because they think thats the way to do things.??

Regarding there is an expectation of injury in WSM....please point out anywhere that will back that claim up.  If that truly is the case, why aren't you bashing it?  A competition where you purposely do it with an expectation of getting injured by something OTHER than an opponent.  Wow.  Doesn't sound retarded at all.

I am with Magoo on this.  There are complete fucktards in CF.  Guess what?  They are present in all areas.  The trainers who have their clients doing shit they have no business doing.  A friend of mine is a trainer at Lifetime fitness and his manager said that unless his clients aren't loud and drawing attention to them, the trainer isn't doing their job.  Wow....really??  I walked away from the whole BBing thing after almost 25yrs.  Had my fill of the retardedness of it all.

[Pray_4_War]

coach, all i'm askin is that you admit that you're being unfair with your crossfit posts. for every video you have of someone falling down doing an oly lift i can find one of someone doing the same damn thing under a TRUE coach. for every video of a stupid exercise there's a hundred of people getting into hard lifting and learning the sport.

just stop being ignorant. you're passionate about fitness and exercise. act like it.

You are saying that the extreme and dangerous examples of Crossfit idiocy found on these videos go on in normal gyms with normal coaches all the time?  You say that for every one of them you can find comparable videos of people doing the same thing with a true coach.  Do it then, present the evidence.  Where is it?

The criticism of Crossfit is well deserved and supported by a mountain of evidence. 

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[tommywishbone]

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[Big Chiro Flex]

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[Krankenstein]

You are saying that the extreme and dangerous examples of Crossfit idiocy found on these videos go on in normal gyms with normal coaches all the time?  You say that for every one of them you can find comparable videos of people doing the same thing with a true coach.  Do it then, present the evidence.  Where is it?

The criticism of Crossfit is well deserved and supported by a mountain of evidence. 

What goes on in normal gyms?  Yes..there are loads of times you will see idiots get stuck under benches, load up leg presses with far too much weight, get under squat bars with far too much weight, and deadlift with horrendous form just to name a few.  Normal coaches?  Really?  So, you make sure you point out the 'good' coaches but neglect to recognize the completely shitty ones.  Yet, its ok to point out the examples of people who think they know that they are doing with CF as the gold standard to what goes on normally.  Ahhhhh.  Well, I guess there is no arguing with you on that one.

The criticism of CF is deserved in certain examples.  We aren't disputing that.  Magoo showed one clip of the platform fail.  Did that guy have bad coaching? 

[BB]

The bigger news in this, is that Glenn is slowly morphing into Geoffrey Capes -

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[chaos]

Crossfitters throw the biggest fits when their workout style is dissed. I can't help but find amusement in that.

[The Showstoppa]

Crossfitters throw the biggest fits when their workout style is dissed. I can't help but find amusement in that.

Me too.  Its like a cult.

[chaos]

Me too.  Its like a cult.

I don't see a single bber/pler/strongman style trainer melt nearly as much as crossfitters. Their insecurities must be epic!

[The Showstoppa]

I don't see a single bber/pler/strongman style trainer melt nearly as much as crossfitters. Their insecurities must be epic!

Brutally so.  As if they are "athletes".   

[chaos]

Brutally so.  As if they are "athletes".   

Yes, untrained soccer moms doing olympic lifts while pregnant immediately gives their kid a .43256% advantage in athletic undertakings.

[Hulkotron]

Exercise is exercise...it's the dumb shit written in the background that makes me laugh.  

Pretentious much....LOL.

x2

CF is a fine workout if that's your bag but the "Holier Than Thou" attitude of most of the serious participants is irritating.

[Necrosis]

Thank you.  I was waiting for "him" to chime in with a little google-fu on this. 

This post was a mix of truth and lies. I generally do this when trolling as it confuses the reader.

[Schnauzer]

[galeniko]

amazing lift hahahahahah

[galeniko]