Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

[The True Adonis]

Huey Long said it best.

[_aj_]

Planet Fitness is a highly Conservative gym, run on Conservative principles who donate a lot of money to Republican candidates.  You are just going to have to deal with that.

Conservatives run it (they have a knack for successful business models), but I hardly find the business model to be an illustrative metaphor of conservatism in general.

[_aj_]

hahah true anus trolling hard in this thread

I know. I hate it when I get into political threads on a bb board.

[The True Adonis]

Conservatives run it (they have a knack for successful business models), but I hardly find the business model to be an illustrative metaphor of conservatism in general.

Its a perfect example if you think about it.

[tu_holmes]

The Democrats have moved to the right and the right has moved to the loony bin.

100 percent.

[_aj_]

Its a perfect example if you think about it.

While I am sure that it conforms to the soulless caricature of all conservatives that you carry in your heart, it doesn't actually correspond to any conservative that I know. So I respectfully disagree.

[shootfighter1]

The majority of business owners are likely fiscally conservative because they want to expand, make a profit, have less regulation and avoid over taxation, all which are barriers to successful profitable business...so the owners of planet fitness may be conservative but I completely disagree with the principles of the gym being conservative, which specifically discriminates, purposely, against strong, assertive males and tries to make all their members feel good with kiddy care, lunk alarms and pizza parties.  That is wossifiation that the feminists love.  Liberals say they are inclusive but I have found many are completely intolerant against anyone who don't completely agree with them and get nasty quickly.  True fiscal conservatives believe the best person for the job...the person who is most productive helps the organization most.

Fiscal conservatives and libertarians are absolutely not controlling and with excessive rules and regulations, they try to allow the advancement of the fittest and most motivated as a core principle.  TA, I respect many of your posts but your misguided on that statement.  Perhaps you are thinking of some social conservatives/religious right, then I would agree.

[shootfighter1]

Agree aj, TA must be thinking of a specific narrowly defined conservative, certainly not the more modern libertarian/less rules/personal freedom conservative.  Suppose it gets muddy because there are different factions within each larger party.  I can identify with the hard working blue collar democrat but not the utopian liberal elitist or militant feminist or race bater.

[The True Adonis]

Chris Christie is the only Republican worth a shit in the whole shitty party.

[_aj_]

Chris Christie is the only Republican worth a shit in the whole shitty party.

 

[dr.chimps]

The Democrats have moved to the right and the right has moved to the loony bin.

The GOP apparently has a $50 million war chest to make sure the Cains, Bachmans and Cruz' etc. are not even balloted in 2016. They've (finally) realized idiocy can't win them votes.   

[Mr Nobody]

I'm going vote for Rob Ford, oh wait I'm not.

[Voice of Doom]

Fucking hell.  Must we go on with this Randy crap no end.

It's a cooperative, collaborative effort.  The big bencher will need a skinny-armed doctor one day.  The big thinker will need a dimwit cop to rescue him.  The 'amazing guy' theory of human leadership is nonsense.  You're not worth more than someone else, no matter what yardstick you want to use to show it.  But be comforted.  No one else is worth more than you are either.  So be nice, you dickheads.

I disagree.  Steve Jobs is certainly worth more than many people.  So is Bill Gates, scientists, artists, conquerors.  Men like these have contributed far more to the betterment of society then the three kids who shot that that Australian college kid in the back last year.  People should be equal in the eyes of the law but that's as far as equality goes.  What you produce and contribute to civilizations is ABSOLUTELY an appropriate yardstick to determine worth.

[The Ugly]

The Democrats have moved to the right

Examples?

[galeniko]

The GOP apparently has a $50 million war chest to make sure the Cains, Bachmans and Cruz' etc. are not even balloted in 2016. They've (finally) realized idiocy can't win them votes.   

im not so sure about that.

those voters arent really soo dumbm they pretend to be.atleast the party leaders do.

theres even a word for it, anti intelectualism or something, but its deliberate and all planned."playing dumb"

[Tapeworm]

I disagree.  Steve Jobs is certainly worth more than many people.  So is Bill Gates, scientists, artists, conquerors.  Men like these have contributed far more to the betterment of society then the three kids who shot that that Australian college kid in the back last year.  People should be equal in the eyes of the law but that's as far as equality goes.  What you produce and contribute to civilizations is ABSOLUTELY an appropriate yardstick to determine worth.

They didn't emerge fully formed on the half-shell from the frothy sea.  They grew up and created their success surrounded by others who helped them along in ways big n' little.

Sometimes unwillingly.  coughWozniakcough

[Voice of Doom]

everybody needs support from the govt one way or other.

hope this helps.

nobody has their own airports, highways and hospiatals last time ichecked

There a thousands of private airports, highways and hospitals.  They typically provide better customers service because they're dependent on those revenue streams.  Public airports and hospitals can feed off the taxpayer regardless of performance.  You've got European socialism WAY to far in your brain.  Centuries of monarchy, wars for the rich and Marxism have warped that fuckin continent.  

At the end of the day it comes down to this.  Private business seeks to maximize output and minimize input through the efficient use of resources.  Human labor is one of those resources.  Governments, on the other hand, are terrible users and distributor of resources (see the Federal Reserve and the tech and housing bubbles of the past 20 years).  On a planet with a finite amount of resources, oil, food, land, gold, water, etc., you need maximum efficiency to provide the highest standard of living to the most amount of people (notice I said most not all).  Private enterprise in a free market is the best solution to achieve those ends.  Yes, there is a human cost to that undeniable truth but welcome to planet earth.  
Start a charity with your private accumulated capital if you're so inclined.

[XFACTOR]

Examples?

Frantically searching google, please wait........

[Voice of Doom]

They didn't emerge fully formed on the half-shell from the frothy sea.  They grew up and created their success surrounded by others who helped them along in ways big n' little.

Sometimes unwillingly.  coughWozniakcough

You make my point.  They were helped by the contributions (productions) of other producers and creators.  Not by people sitting on the couch taking money from those creations OR from people sitting at financial institutions scooping interest percentages off those creations.  Both sides are parasites to maximum production efficiency. 

You original point was that we were all equal in a land of rainbows and flowers (you didn't build that - Obama) and had a "moral" duty to maintain the lifestyles of the parasitic.

At the end of the day its the individual's will to risk, to build, revise, take chances and create that distinguishes the output and "value" they bring to a society.

[Eyeball Chambers]

There a thousands of private airports, highways and hospitals.  They typically provide better customers service because they're dependent on those revenue streams.  Public airports and hospitals can feed off the taxpayer regardless of performance.  You've got European socialism WAY to far in your brain.  Centuries of monarchy, wars for the rich and Marxism have warped that fuckin continent.  

At the end of the day it comes down to this.  Private business seeks to maximize output and minimize input through the efficient use of resources.  Human labor is one of those resources.  Governments, on the other hand, are terrible users and distributor of resources (see the Federal Reserve and the tech and housing bubbles of the past 20 years).  On a planet with a finite amount of resources, oil, food, land, gold, water, etc., you need maximum efficiency to provide the highest standard of living to the most amount of people (notice I said most not all).  Private enterprise in a free market is the best solution to achieve those ends.  Yes, there is a human cost to that undeniable truth but welcome to planet earth.  
Start a charity with your private accumulated capital if you're so inclined.

[shootfighter1]

Christie seems more moderate, focused on fiscal issues and economics far more than social issues...so I am leaning favorable toward him so far.  He has shown he can be inclusive in his state, which is refreshing from some of the divisive politicians we see.  People like Reagan brought people together, that is what we need.  President Obama is divisive...he is strong in his core progressive, community organizing principles and has an us vs. them mentality.  Clinton worked across the isle much better.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Christie seems more moderate, focused on fiscal issues and economics far more than social issues...so I am leaning favorable toward him so far.  He has shown he can be inclusive in his state, which is refreshing from some of the divisive politicians we see.  People like Reagan brought people together, that is what we need.  President Obama is divisive...he is strong in his core progressive, community organizing principles and has an us vs. them mentality.  Clinton worked across the isle much better.

We need a conservative

[shootfighter1]

Agree Voice of Doom.  The 'you didn't build that' was particularly irritating and mostly incorrect.  Private industry and motivated people are the main driver of progress and jobs in this country, with some notable exceptions (ie. good science and public health) and they certainly do it more efficiently with resources.  We achieve with cooperation and community but predominantly of the willing, motivated and able and our tax dollars went to build every single thing the government did...government has no $ without us to produce.
I feel the federal government should regulate private industry in most cases and keep them from committing abuses, monopolies and violating fair work standards but run very few things outside the military.

[Tapeworm]

You make my point.  They were helped by the contributions (productions) of other producers and creators.  Not by people sitting on the couch taking money from those creations OR from people sitting at financial institutions scooping interest percentages off those creations.  Both sides are parasites to maximum production efficiency. 

You original point was that we were all equal in a land of rainbows and flowers (you didn't build that - Obama) and had a "moral" duty to maintain the lifestyles of the parasitic.

At the end of the day its the individual's will to risk, to build, revise, take chances and create that distinguishes the output and "value" they bring to a society.

Exactly, we agree.  It's a collaborative effort and everyone made some contribution.  

And we have a civic duty to direct society to foster man's natural goodness, rather than exploit and abuse him until he becomes parasitic or irretrievably cynical.

[Rami]

Goes to show that men most of the time knows what's best, and that women, although well meaning, are most often wrong. Sweden lives this lesson at the moment.