I grew up like all of you with the Flex magazine bullshit and the lies from the videos. Oh well...
The ideea of bulking, then cutting for a show. It never made sense to me but who am I to dispute. I did notice the occasional oddity who grew into a show.
My last transformation I did slim down without drugs, as much as I was able to, then hopped on a stack. Disgusted encouraged me and helped me with pointers. As you all know, when you diet strict you become paranoic and don't think clear 
The results were much much better. I think I first became aware of this when gh15 said that it is much better to start a cycle at a low bodyfat. And it is.
The stack is different, and I see no point in doing the test, deca and dbol bulking unless you feel the need to be "big" all the time. Your body recovers better if you go off completely and only use when growing into contest shape or close to that. It's also mentally less taxing to not take hormones all the time. For me at least.
Levrone did it this way, Arnold, Lee Haney and I am sure many others.
hm,sev.
i agree and i no agree.
a bloody newcomer must gain some weight first , for us who have had the size before is easy, we can just hop on gear, do the same diet as usual and we end up looking like before very fast.no matter if we fat or thin.
the muscle never realy gone,its just smaller, stores fuck all nutritients etc.layer of fat and boom we look like never lifted a weight in the life.
now lets say if we wanted to add some serious size now, we would need to do a little bulking too, but rather to make the nedded extra drugs work,more than anything else.and ppl confuse bulk with eating whatever at any given time, no restrictions whatsoever.ofc this will not end well.
but a slow weight gain from mostly clean foods would be necesary for us to get bit further.
more imporatnt though, the dosage increase.
this is important, yes dosage has everything to do with size, but this doesnt mean a newcomer can come and blast away.gotta work the way up slowly.
but we do agree, steroids are much better when lean, only ppl who been so lean will know the difference.
and fully agredd, once there, and happy with the size, is better to go off gear for offseaosn instead of "bulking".
better to be off gear and not even train, or train a bit.
bulking is a pathetic excuse use as spacegoat for zero diet discipline.
a proper bulk has its places but it has nothing to do with permanent glutony as some think.
that bs is reinforced by"you can eat whatever you want on drugs dex jackson was seen eating mcdonslad contest prep"
well, thats not true, dex eats a mcdonalds chicken wing but then diets for 1 week again and trains twice a day ,lol.
