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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2014, 12:48:16 PM »
If I ever manage to find a photo editor that blanks out my face I will post pics so you understand, my free photoshop trial has expired

Ok, you can share the pics now.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2014, 01:16:24 PM »

Sprints release Pixie Dust into the blood that magically targets visceral fat and completely bypasses the idea that it's a calorie deficit leads to reduced bodyfat.

visceral fat isn't that hard to burn, the fat with more alpha2 adrenergic receptors is ;) , it's about hormones working in synergy, high intensity training triggers cethocolamines, cortisol test and hgh which is a win win combination for futrher fat oxidation and muscle building

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2014, 01:33:30 PM »

Honestly I have no reason to lie about something so important to me, that just how my body works.

My theory is that I was probably either pre-diabetic or perhaps already type 2 diabetic (although this was never confirmed by blood works) and since I did my transformation where I came down from 253lb @ like 40% BF down to 170lb around 12 is BF (maybe higher I am no very good judge but definately no more than 15) that the cardio and exercise somehow reversed or masked my issues with carbs etc.

That's my theory anyway.


Tell me what is a programme that I can download free like photoshop (but not photoshop cos mine expired and I dont wanna buy it) that blanks out my face so I can post pics so you understand what I am saying cos I really want to get to the bottom of why I am such a fuck up.

Thanks


I don't think that you are lying just don't know your body and nutrition.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2014, 01:37:48 PM »
This can not be true anymore that you could breath under water. A lot of times when people get fat they feel like they are big and or growing more.

You know what he means, it just needs to be read between the lines.

He means he's a fatass. He feels "skinny" without carbs, so he feasts all day because when his fatceps lose circumference it makes him feel small and subsequently insecure. That's why he thinks "carbs build his muscles" and eats way too much.

Well, eating carbs will mean a lot of glycogen retention in the skeletal muscle, considering how most of the volume is water + carbs or glycogen. But this guy's just fat, overthinks, and also thinks he knows more than he does which is a dangerous combination. Disgusted, you are a guru and shouldn't give this kid the time of day because he's dead set in his ways. I predict it will take a good 2-3 more years of overanalyzing and reading boards before this guy will truly get it.

Unfortunately this kid doesn't understand that he's arguing with a guru. Whatever Disgusted says, you can be assured that at least a solid 99.9% of it will be indisputable. He'll have more luck if he just drops everything he "knows" and blindly listens to Disgusted because he won't be steered wrong. I wouldn't waste anymore effort on this guy. We've all met the bodybuilding-know-it-alls before that are 20% body fat, read everything on the internet, and "do everything correctly" already.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2014, 01:43:40 PM »
You know what he means, it just needs to be read between the lines.

He means he's a fatass. He feels "skinny" without carbs, so he feasts all day because when his fatceps lose circumference it makes him feel small and subsequently insecure. That's why he thinks "carbs build his muscles" and eats way too much.

Well, eating carbs will mean a lot of glycogen retention in the skeletal muscle, considering how most of the volume is water + carbs or glycogen. But this guy's just fat, overthinks, and also thinks he knows more than he does which is a dangerous combination. Disgusted, you are a guru and shouldn't give this kid the time of day because he's dead set in his ways. I predict it will take a good 2-3 more years of overanalyzing and reading boards before this guy will truly get it.

Unfortunately this kid doesn't understand that he's arguing with a guru. Whatever Disgusted says, you can be assured that at least a solid 99.9% of it will be indisputable. He'll have more luck if he just drops everything he "knows" and blindly listens to Disgusted because he won't be steered wrong. I wouldn't waste anymore effort on this guy. We've all met the bodybuilding-know-it-alls before that are 20% body fat, read everything on the internet, and "do everything correctly" already.

I at times feel bad for guys like this simply because they like  you said will most likely never get it. On the other hand when I was his age I had to reply on mags to get my info and most of it was crap. Tons of trial and error. Today one can talk to some pretty knowledgeable guys at the touch of their key board. Thanks for the kind words!!!!  :)

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« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2014, 01:54:01 PM »
I at times feel bad for guys like this simply because they like  you said will most likely never get it. On the other hand when I was his age I had to reply on mags to get my info and most of it was crap. Tons of trial and error. Today one can talk to some pretty knowledgeable guys at the touch of their key board. Thanks for the kind words!!!!  :)

No worries, man. I was like that guy before. I trusted the "gurus" on bodybuilding.com with my life!

I didn't wise up until I loosened my anus and read things from guys like you, gal, sev, people who've tried shit out themselves as well as read the scientific literature and found the truth somewhere in the middle of the road. This kid will get it too in another few years. But until then, he'll just have to keep crashing and burning with his carb muscles and body that defies the laws of thermodynamics and conventional biology. Must suck for him, eh! :o ;D

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2014, 01:59:11 PM »
stop refering to me as a kid I am 35 years old, also if you have nothing constructive to say what talk shit, try for once to be a little bit respectful and considerate about other people, I haven't been rude or discourteous to you now have I?

I am simply trying to pick other peoples brains.

Everytime I hear critisim its always oh its your diet, or its your training......bullshit sometimes its just hormones as there aint nothing u can do about it other than correct it hormonally.

Now chill
I personally don't think you are here to learn. Either that or you are really dumb.

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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2014, 02:04:21 PM »
I personally don't think you are here to learn. Either that or you are really dumb.

This.

sev and everyone else know I don't lash out unless there's a legitimate reason. Either this guy is terribly fucking retarded and I would offer my sincerest apologies, or he's terribly fucking retarded and a know-it-all who's done nothing but reject valuable insights by some of our most helpful and brightest members... I'm going with the latter.

All the answers have been provided, Uncle Junior. Stop being a fucking retard. Hope this helps.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2014, 02:07:25 PM »
Junior.. I slimed down diabetics as well.. I don't think you are one, but even if so, carbs are not necessary for either bulking or cutting. I tried everything and made plenty of mistakes. I think I figured it out in the recent past.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2014, 02:13:40 PM »
I am no expert but I know what I know and nothing can change that. Am more than happy to share. I have learned the best stuff here on getbig believe it or not.

Stronger? nowadays I surely hope you are  ;D (I use baby weights)

Better physique? good luck .. post something better than this and I will definitely give you props my friend.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2014, 02:26:39 PM »
Disgusted or anyone, I've ran test and tren before with no AI or nothing, no issues. Dose like 300-500 in total.

Running npp for first time, 400mg a week - feel like shit for over a week, like test flu? Is my estrogen/prolactin high...got some adex on way but man...

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2014, 02:31:08 PM »

I am just extremely frustrated right now that I can't get this right.


Relax .. eat lean meats bittergreen veggies also leafy ones .. and some healthy fats .. drop the carbs, the hgh, the insane amounts of training... spend maximum of 1 hour a day 6 days a week in the gym .. That's all.. you will feel and look better.

My best friend was doing something similar to you. Then, he did what I just told you to do. This is what happened to him..


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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2014, 02:33:28 PM »
Disgusted or anyone, I've ran test and tren before with no AI or nothing, no issues. Dose like 300-500 in total.

Running npp for first time, 400mg a week - feel like shit for over a week, like test flu? Is my estrogen/prolactin high...got some adex on way but man...

Just reaction to a new compound. Will go away in a couple weeks. NPP is quick acting.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2014, 02:34:20 PM »
Relax .. eat lean meats bittergreen veggies also leafy ones .. and some healthy fats .. drop the carbs, the hgh, the insane amounts of training... spend maximum of 1 hour a day 6 days a week in the gym .. That's all.. you will feel and look better.

My best friend was doing something similar to you. Then, he did what I just told you to do. This is what happened to him..



Good sound advice with excellent results!!

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2014, 02:37:25 PM »
Good sound advice with excellent results!!
Yes, credit also to Disgusted. My friend was stuck 2 weeks prior to the final picture. We hit a plateau. He still had a little fat and looked quite different .. A single phrase from Disgusted made all the difference and you see the result.. in 2 weeks he was in the shape of his life. People underestimate Disgusted. I don't  ;D


He also helped me achieve this shape (a little advice here and there can make a world of difference trust me)


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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2014, 02:38:25 PM »
Yes, credit also to Disgusted. My friend was stuck 2 weeks prior to the final picture. We hit a plateau. A single phrase from Disgusted made all the difference and you see the result.. in 2 weeks he was in the shape of his life. People underestimate Disgusted. I don't  ;D

disgusted is the best expert on here

thats saying something cause loads of guys know their stuff
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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2014, 02:41:32 PM »
disgusted is the best expert on here

thats saying something cause loads of guys know their stuff
I resonate with him because he simply makes sense .. to me at least. I would encourage anyone, pro or gymrat, to contact him for bodybuilding advice. To me he is the best I have seen (and I worked with a top 10 Mr O before and many others)..

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2014, 02:42:00 PM »
don't bother Disgusted, I have already offered him advice but he insist with this 500 grams a day of carbs because bla bla bla

no such thing as carb sensitivity by the way .. another dude with fixed ideas
if he cant have carbs he can jjust add more fats,thatll do.

btw some amoutn of carb sensitivty is reality, its just the wrong term, if one overfloods the system with carbs, the insulin sensitivity goes to shit and all macros are being used in suboptimal ways.

and carbs can make one fatter very quick, adding to the issue.

its just the wrong term,this carb sensitivity.
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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2014, 02:43:44 PM »

Ok first apologies for snapping at you, I know you are only trying to help but you called me a dumb fuck which I am not.

But anyway moving on, yes you have a great physique but clearly it is not natural and you have already stated that you are on gear a number of times so we are essentially comparing apples with oranges.

Maybe, you have better genetics etc.

It's all irrelevant to me.

All I am trying to do is figuire out why I am incapable of losing body fat without losing substantial muscle no matter what I do.

You say its diet, training blah blah blah and think I am some kind of noob which I am not.

I am sure there must be underlying hormonal issues.

I am in the process of photo shopping some photo's and post them up along with the diet and training I was doing at the time.

Hey man if you can help me with my goals, you can call me friend for life, cos I am just the kind of guy who would do anything for my friends and people who help me cos I am just like that as a human being and a person. I am always trying to be a better person.

My being an asshole days are long gone.

anyway just wait for the pics and help me if you can, if not then god bless and good luck whatever you do man.

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I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST A PIC GOOD OR BAD TO SEE WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF CONDITION HI/LO CARB,SEV POSTED PIC TO PROVE POINT AND U ANSWERED LIKE GENTLEMAN ,,SO WE WILL SEE..

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2014, 02:44:09 PM »
if he cant have carbs he can jjust add more fats,thatll do.

btw some amoutn of carb sensitivty is reality, its just the wrong term, if one overfloods the system with carbs, the insulin sensitivity goes to shit and all macros are being used in suboptimal ways.

and carbs can make one fatter very quick, adding to the issue.

its just the wrong term,this carb sensitivity.
I thought years ago the same about myself.. that I was carb sensitive .. I came to realize that the correct diagnose was "being a whiny bitch"  ;D

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« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2014, 02:47:52 PM »
if he cant have carbs he can jjust add more fats,thatll do.

btw some amoutn of carb sensitivty is reality, its just the wrong term, if one overfloods the system with carbs, the insulin sensitivity goes to shit and all macros are being used in suboptimal ways.

and carbs can make one fatter very quick, adding to the issue.

its just the wrong term,this carb sensitivity.

Correct. Some people's insulin/carb sensitivity or whatever you want to call it doesn't work quickly or accurately enough. When someone's classified as a Type II Diabetic that means they're to the point where their insulin release and macronutrient partitioning is shot, requiring medical intervention with glucose disposal agents and/or exogenous insulin.

This guy isn't "carb sensitive". He just feels small if it doesn't eat enough carbs. Completely incorrect term he's using. A better one would be fearful permabulker. Everyone's been there at one point. You just have to look in the mirror and face the facts. Fix what you see in the mirror, don't worry about measurements or t-shirt sizes. He really needs to forget everything he thinks he knows and start committing to the advices in this thread. Without full commitment, he'll just hover where he is currently.

Uncle Junior, you have some of the best gurus offering their assistance. I urge you to listen to them. I used to be skinny, then I got fat and thought I was hyuuge, then I listened to people on these boards and got thick and shredded... so I dunno. I got in amazing shape listening to these guys. You have nothing to lose.

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2014, 02:49:20 PM »
Yes dustin.. post the sick vascular ripped photo so people realize you know your nutrition..

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2014, 02:49:49 PM »
I resonate with him because he simply makes sense .. to me at least. I would encourage anyone, pro or gymrat, to contact him for bodybuilding advice. To me he is the best I have seen (and I worked with a top 10 Mr O before and many others)..

 :-[  Thanks! I'm just happy if I can help in a small way even one person. There are a lot of smart guys on here. this board is at times insane, but prob the best when it comes to people that know their shit. Props to you guys!!

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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2014, 02:56:15 PM »
Relax .. eat lean meats bittergreen veggies also leafy ones .. and some healthy fats .. drop the carbs, the hgh, the insane amounts of training... spend maximum of 1 hour a day 6 days a week in the gym .. That's all.. you will feel and look better.

My best friend was doing something similar to you. Then, he did what I just told you to do. This is what happened to him..



That's a nice look in the "after". Maintainable.

How long did that take sev? Do u do coaching?

I see you like a high protein low carb lie fat diet? Disgusted advocates a higher fat keto diet? Or aim mistaken.


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Re: The offseason myth
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2014, 03:00:14 PM »
Yes dustin.. post the sick vascular ripped photo so people realize you know your nutrition..

I learned pretty much everything here. I was brainwashed with bb.com propaganda and used to organize my chicken and steak bins and measure out brown rice. I get sick thinking about all that dry gross food that I ate way too much of. Listen to Disgusted, sev and gal. They have logical, effective and REALISTIC advices and that's what makes it work.

Here's a picture of me off all gear just before starting gonadotropins. Endo wouldn't write the script until my test levels were where they should be (I was 0ng/dl lol). Please ignore the horrible beer in the background too, I promise I don't drink that shit normally. Sorry for the shitty editing lol