Kansas House passes bill allowing refusal of service to same-sex couples

[blacken700]

I don't see a rational argument here.

Your calling bad manners and discrimination the same lol

[OzmO]

Personal rights should extend to owned businesses.  It might not feel right to you but personal freedom trumps all else.

Any form.of discrimination has no place in modern society as well as the public market place.  Be as narrow as you want in your own home.  Open a business then you must conform to rules based on a free society.  Otherwise we are going backwards.  

[StreetSoldier4U]

Any form.of discrimination has no place in modern society as well as the public market place.  Be as narrow as you want in your own home.  Open a business then you must conform to rules based on a free society.  Otherwise we are going backwards.  

Of course it doesn't. The reality is that any business that decides to discriminate will not stay in business for very long.   On the topic specifically,  it's important to protect the rights of religious institutions even if they discriminate. 

[OzmO]

Of course it doesn't. The reality is that any business that decides to discriminate will not stay in business for very long.   On the topic specifically,  it's important to protect the rights of religious institutions even if they discriminate. 

Although they share some similarities churches are very different from businesses.  About as different as manners and discrimination. 

[StreetSoldier4U]

Although they share some similarities churches are very different from businesses.  About as different as manners and discrimination. 

Isn't that the point here?  Shouldn't churches have the right to refuse to engage in activity they find immoral?

[chadstallion]

They should have that right. 

correct.
and we should still have the right to own slaves [ if we can afford them.]

[StreetSoldier4U]

correct.
and we should still have the right to own slaves [ if we can afford them.]

False equivalency.   Your analogy doesn't hold water.

[Straw Man]

It should be.

x2

You should be able to refuse your services to anyone for any reason.

perfect example of why this board sucks

the people on the other side of the argument are too stupid to even be worth the time

I stopped reading after this

[StreetSoldier4U]

perfect example of why this board sucks

the people on the other side of the argument are too stupid to even be worth the time

I stopped reading after this

As if you're actually trying to have a discussion.  All you have to offer are the typical talking points you've read.  I doubt you've even given the matter much actual independent thought. 

[blacken700]

As if you're actually trying to have a discussion.  All you have to offer are the typical talking points you've read.  I doubt you've even given the matter much actual independent thought. 

Are you still going on,you've look like a fool for the last two days.tell us more about manners and discrimination and how ther the same.time for you to go eat some mexican food

[StreetSoldier4U]

Are you still going on,you've look like a fool for the last two days.tell us more about manners and discrimination and how ther the same.time for you to go eat some mexican food

So weak. By responding this way you are ultimately admitting you've lost

[blacken700]

So weak. By responding this way you are ultimately admitting you've lost

That's your same comeback you use all the time,it's getting old LOL .now tell about how you think manners and discrimination are the same

[Straw Man]

Are you still going on,you've look like a fool for the last two days.tell us more about manners and discrimination and how ther the same.time for you to go eat some mexican food

it's the same reason I don't discuss politics with my dog

it would just be a waste of time though I suspect my dog is smarter than you

[StreetSoldier4U]

it's the same reason I don't discuss politics with my dog

it would just be a waste of time though I suspect my dog is smarter than you

You are obviously becoming upset.  Should you take a break from getbig for awhile to cool down.

[Straw Man]

You are obviously becoming upset.  Should you take a break from getbig for awhile to cool down.

you're obviously a very poor judge of human emotion

[StreetSoldier4U]

you're obviously a very poor judge of human emotion

You know I'm right.  When a person starts launching into a hysterical fit of insults you know you've gotten in their heads. 

[Straw Man]

You know I'm right.  When a person starts launching into a hysterical fit of insults you know you've gotten in their heads. 

hysterical fit?

now we're back to my original point that you're too stupid to be worth my time (don't worry though, you're not the only one but just emblematic of most of the right wing posters on this board)

[StreetSoldier4U]

hysterical fit?

now we're back to my original point that you're too stupid to be worth my time (don't worry though, you're not the only one but just emblematic of most of the right wing posters on this board)

Yes, a hissy fit like the one you're having here. 

[OzmO]

oh, brother, what a pompous twat

"modern society"  where women are "free" to murder the unborn?

fortunately, people like you inevitably die of AIDS   good luck with that

I have notice that your default post tactic revolves around name calling and Insults which is the first sign of a weak argument and a even weaker person.  It's even more highlighted by your attempt to compare the current debate to something else entirely, I.e. abortion and aids.   

How pathetic.  Lol

Meanwhile lifestyle discrimination STILL doesn't have any place  in modern society.  Grow up and get over yourself. 

PS.  You are  like that  little kid on "42"in Cincinnati.  I challenge you to construct a coherent argument without sounding like 10 year punk kid name calling at the play ground.   Give it a try, I know you can do it!

[OzmO]

Isn't that the point here?  Shouldn't churches have the right to refuse to engage in activity they find immoral?

No one is telling churches they should engage in homosexual sex and be required by law to do so. 

[StreetSoldier4U]

No one is telling churches they should engage in homosexual sex and be required by law to do so. 

You're missing the point. You're a mod on this board?

[OzmO]

You're missing the point. You're a mod on this board?

Am I?   So far nearly every argument you provided has been empty

Like for example comparing good manners to discrimination and then business to churches.  

Then just now you said churches shouldn't be forced to engage in immoral activity as if something is forcing them to engage in homosexual.sex.  

Or maybe you are forgetting churches are made up of forgiven sinners. 

Maybe you should take.some time to more clearly make your point using direct wording, because you are not making much sense.  

[StreetSoldier4U]

Am I?   So far nearly every argument you provided has been empty

Like for example comparing good manners to discrimination and then business to churches.  

Then just now you said churches shouldn't be forced to engage in immoral activity as if something is forcing them to engage in homosexual.sex.  

Or maybe you are forgetting churches are made up of forgiven sinners. 

Maybe you should take.some time to more clearly make your point using direct wording, because you are not making much sense.  

It's not the sex.  I don't know why you keep bringing up homosexual sex in graphic detail.  Are you gay? 

[OzmO]

It's not the sex.  I don't know why you keep bringing up homosexual sex in graphic detail.  Are you gay? 

So now that you have been completely closed down, exposed, and left with nothing to say, you have to accuse me of being gay in hopes I go on the defense to distract from your childish debate tactics?

Heheheheheheh.   You a funny guy. 

PS. No I am not.gay.  Are you? (Not that there is anything wrong with that  )

[StreetSoldier4U]

So now that you have been completely closed down, exposed, and left with nothing to say, you have to accuse me of being gay in hopes I go on the defense to distract from your childish debate tactics?

Heheheheheheh.   You a funny guy. 

PS. No I am not.gay.  Are you? (Not that there is anything wrong with that  )

I was only asking because I didn't want to offend you.  I didn't accuse, I asked.  Being new here, I've found a lot of people on here are gay.  Hell you have a guy with AIDS. This is my argument in a nut shell. For example,   a church's right to refuse service should be protected by law.