Trusted UGLs getting outed left and right with Labmax

[lyquid]

Yes if u read the post I quoted to you'd understand what I ment. I ment there all bullshit liars most of em. Not only send u cheaper product but all claim to be highest purity.

So who really knows if.its the ugl ripping u or China ripping them. I think there all ripping.off eachither. Why not that's business of 2000s right.

[Oly15]

man most in this thread must get there stuff from promuscle or have those nasty gh15 sources

[Mawse]

Yes if u read the post I quoted to you'd understand what I ment. I ment there all bullshit liars most of em. Not only send u cheaper product but all claim to be highest purity.

So who really knows if.its the ugl ripping u or China ripping them. I think there all ripping.off eachither. Why not that's business of 2000s right.

I don't think you understood me, you need to test the product yourself. Unless you have tested their prod cut in the past and are buying basic vanilla.. Ie test, deca, dbol etc. I test tren, var

Spend enough time on google and eventually you should find somewhere that does mass spectrometry for a price. Not cheap like srcs but worth doing considering how long a powder order should last

The place my friend uses has never tested less than claimed.

[LurkerNoMore]

Well I have some stuff laying around from various years that I would send it.  A lot of Geneza (primo, tren, masteron, halo, proviron, andromix, var, aromasin, etc..),  a good bit of EP, some old Thai Phoenix items, Nuvanna, Biomex, Scirroxx, even some old Dpharm stuff. 

But I ain't gonna pay no shit load of money to have each one tested "just to see".

[whitewidow]

Well I have some stuff laying around from various years that I would send it.  A lot of Geneza (primo, tren, masteron, halo, proviron, andromix, var, aromasin, etc..),  a good bit of EP, some old Thai Phoenix items, Nuvanna, Biomex, Scirroxx, even some old Dpharm stuff. 

But I ain't gonna pay no shit load of money to have each one tested "just to see".

Damn! You still have some Dpharm gear? that must be way expired, same with thai pheonix.You must like to be stocked up but you seem overstocked. It never hurts to have extra PCt items but damn you have some old gear that should be used up. They would charge you at least 100$ to test every single product so your looking at a easy 1,000$ maybe more.

[eldoradospandex]

From another board, all from the wedinos site


The Good - Analysis matches label
Alchemia Pharma Anavar - W000392
Alpha Pharma Induject (Sustanon) - 000031124
Alpha Pharma Masteron - W000104
Alpha Pharma Parabolin (Tren Hex) - W000101
Alpha Pharma Tren A - W000103
BSI Anavar - W000480
D-Hacks Anadrol - W000504
D-Hacks Anavar (?) - W000325
D-Hacks Cialis - W000507
D-Hacks Clenbuterol - W000500
D-Hacks Power Stack - W000505
D-Hacks T-Bol - W000503
Fuerza Deca 300 - W000271
Fuerza Test 400 C/E/P - W000270 & W000493
Global Solutions EQ - W000492 *** this is technically a miss since there's a minor match for "Boldenone" (no ester)
Global Solutions T-Bol - W000494
Isis Test P - W000335
JDL Arimidex - W000548
JDL Aromasin - W000352
JDL Nolvadex - W000353
Keifei Parabolin A - W000484
MSJ Ephedrine - W000422
Orbis Labs T-bol - W000384
Pro.chem T-Bol - W000350
Pro.chem Tren A - W000108
Red Star Tri Tren - 000026308
ROHM Anavar - W000085
ROHM Dianabol - W000385
SD Labs Dbol - W000386
Signature Pharma Nandrolone Deca - W000198
Signature Pharma Tren E - W000202

The Bad - Analysis does not match label
Alpha Pharma Sustanon - Test E - W000105
Apollo Sustanon - 5 Test esters, EQ - W000485
British Dragon Anavar - Nothing - 000030065
British Dragon Andropen Test Blend - EQ, Test P, 5-AD - 000026193
British Pharma Lean Gain Test, Mast, Tren - Test P/I, Tren A, Mast - 000033424
British Pharma Tren E 200 - Tren E/A/H - 000026190
BSI Methyltren + DS - Nothing - W000486
D-Hacks Cytomel T3 - Nothing - W000375 & W000506 *** Pills look different - One of them might not actually be genuine
D-Hacks Dbol - Winstrol - W000499 *** See D-Hacks Winstrol - Possible mix-up
D-Hacks T5 (ECA, DMAA) - EC, DMAA - W000501
D-Hacks Winstrol - DBol - W000502 *** See D-Hacks D-Bol- Possible mix-up
Delta Deca - EQ, Boldenone U, Boldenone - 000033471
Delta Sustanon 250 - Test C/E, Tren E - 000033472
Delta Test 400 Test E/C/D - Test E/C - 000033470
Delta Tri Tren - Test P, Tren E - 000030063
Fuerza Super Rip Test P, Tren A, Mast P - Test P, Tren A - W000398
Fuerza Test E - NPP - W000354
Ironsups Test 260 Test C/E - Test C, Test P - W000355
Isis Primo E 100 - Nandrolone - W000409
Jdl Turinabol - Tamoxifen, Methandrostenolone - W000351
Lipthai Sustanon P/I/P/D - Test C/E/P - W000476
Med Labs Testosterone Cypionate - Test P - W000383
Pro.chem Tri Sus 250 Test I/E/C - Tren A/E, Test E/C/P - 000026192
Red Square Mast 200 - EQ, Tren A - W000247
Red Square Primo 100 - Primo A, Tren A, Tren E, Masteron - W000250
Red Square SupaRip500 Test Tren Mast (?) - Tren E, Test C - W000253
Red Star Deca 300 - Tren E, Deca - 000026306
Red Star Sustanon 250 (P/P/I/D) - Test P/P/I/D/I - 000026307
ROHM TTM Test C, Tren E, Mast E - Tren E, Test C - W000410
Signature Pharma Mast 100 - Tren E, Tren A, Test E, Mast - W000200
Signature Pharma Test Cyp 250 - Test E - W000201
Signature Pharma Tren A 100 - Tren E, Tren A - W000199

[LurkerNoMore]

Damn! You still have some Dpharm gear? that must be way expired, same with thai pheonix.You must like to be stocked up but you seem overstocked. It never hurts to have extra PCt items but damn you have some old gear that should be used up. They would charge you at least 100$ to test every single product so your looking at a easy 1,000$ maybe more.

Yeah, even got some USPharma as well.  I used to get my "allowance" in every month and could never use all of it so it sort of built up.

Though I did use all the Thai Phoenix and that shit was an absolute BEAST!  Broke my heart when Selene reached her goal and retired.  She could have at least turned her op over to someone else to keep making it. 

[ChristopherA]

Ok this ? is to everyone ,
   What is your fav. Ugl, or brand you have cycled on, and did they job needed to do .??
 I'm
Currently running British Dragon , although I have read a few things about the lab. But honestly I'm noticing great gains from it, as I'm on my cutting phase .

Never seen anything but phenomenal results, rediculous gains from Chavo's gear. No, as in N-O NO, pip. Any time I hooked a friend up with it, they were blown away. One even liked his sust better than HG enanthate

[whitewidow]

Yeah, even got some USPharma as well.  I used to get my "allowance" in every month and could never use all of it so it sort of built up.

Though I did use all the Thai Phoenix and that shit was an absolute BEAST!  Broke my heart when Selene reached her goal and retired.  She could have at least turned her op over to someone else to keep making it. 

DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?

[ChristopherA]

I never said he was a slow source. I used him a few times and my packs got shipped the next day. he also fucked up on one of my packs and sent my a whole bunch of free shit. This is when he was private. strango charges more then Human grade gear costs, plus some of his products are real hit and miss and one time they are Ok next time they are too painfull to inject. Once he went out from private and put his list back up on AB for a few weeks and Gh15's board he got swamped and got in over his head and then the quality went downhill. Not alot of people speak out if they get a bad product. I did it on AB and got banned for telling the truth.

Then all of a sudden I get all these Pm's from other people complaining about alot of products that were painfull or just didn"t work. I think when he was private maybe the gear wasn't anything psecial but he did ship it real fast and make up for any mistakes with lots of extras but maybe that is because my order ws bigger then most peoples. Some sources do look after there first clients or the big buyers before they take care of the smaller buyer wich isn"t fair. It's a service. you pay and you expect a product no matter how much you paid. everybody should get the same service.

I have seen this before a source gets backed up and takes care of their top customers and guys with big orders and the smaller buyers wait for months because the source dosn;t give a fuck if you ever buy again. They look at it like a order they should of never took from a member they have never dealt with, but they still have to deal with them and make the shit right if they took money. 

Solid post. WW said, as far back as a couple years ago, that Strango wasnt the be all end all he was being made out to be. I'm glad to hear the guy makes good when he fucks up order, is that a plus or something? Fucking A he better make it right. His gear is WAY overpriced compared to his "competitor's." Never mind fucking up an order, how about his bunk gear? A close friend ran his EQ and nothing, nada, zero results. I've used his tren a couple years ago and found it to be very good. No where near as potent as Chavo's though. It's not out of this world to think he got so many new custy's the product has suffered, especially when he has his own personal pimp GH15. I'm sure all the mods on 15's board are getting the best of his product, just smart business there

[NightTrain]

DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?

Wasn't USPharma owned by Jacob?

or am I thinking of someone else?

[whitewidow]

Wasn't USPharma owned by Jacob?

or am I thinking of someone else?

forgot the name it is on the raw deal indictment if you can find that online. He lived in the midwest I want to say Wisconsin,somewhere around one of those states

[YoungFunerale]

Ive been hearing a lot about this. Not surprised its true

[LurkerNoMore]

DAMN! you still have USPharma gear-LOL. He got busted in operation raw deal that was like 7 years ago. did you buy it when USpharma started putting the vials in a Box to make it look more like Pharma gear?

Yeah.  $30 for Test Enan.  I remember the first batches that he started using boxes for.  The boxes were actually too little and you can had to practically cut the sides in order to get the vial out. 

He got bigger boxes for the vial and then hired that Sean dude (forgot his username) to make his labels for them (Sean was printing off labels for a lot of UGLs then) and instead, Sean took his $9k and the rest of the money from the other sources who were using him and skipped out.  I honestly had to hold my head and just laugh at that.  You expect some sources to turn scammer and bail... but a label maker?   LOL!

[whitewidow]

Yeah.  $30 for Test Enan.  I remember the first batches that he started using boxes for.  The boxes were actually too little and you can had to practically cut the sides in order to get the vial out. 

He got bigger boxes for the vial and then hired that Sean dude (forgot his username) to make his labels for them (Sean was printing off labels for a lot of UGLs then) and instead, Sean took his $9k and the rest of the money from the other sources who were using him and skipped out.  I honestly had to hold my head and just laugh at that.  You expect some sources to turn scammer and bail... but a label maker?   LOL!

LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.

Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.

Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.

[BigRo]

anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?

[_aj_]

anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?

Paging WhiteWidow, please pick up the white courtesy phone...

[NightTrain]

anyone used Balkan Pharma gear?

Balkan sucks bro. It's pushed over in Moldova by Alin.

[LurkerNoMore]

LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.

Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.

Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.

Yeah.  No shit.  But bigpimpin actually had the ear of a couple of mods and they kept vouching for him.  I remember that USPharma had that avatar of the endless 100 dollar bills being fanned towards the camera... I used to think "how many times has that money roll been gapped because of the people that ripped him off?"  He was not the smartest person in the biz.  Had great gear, everyone loved it, but the dude was a business dum-dum.  I placed an order for $1400 once that was for myself and 3 friends.  Well after I mailed off the funds one guy wanted to change his order and get EQ instead of deca.  So I emailed USPharma and let him know that the order had changed but the amount was still the same.  I got the first (original) order in about a week.  I thought "well shit, the EQ isn't here so I will just let him know".  I emailed him and the very next day the "revised" order showed up.  So I thought he was aware of it and had fixed it, even though it was the the full $1400 worth and not just the missing EQ.  Then a week later ANOTHER order - $1400 - worth showed up that was identical to the revised order.  I got $4200 worth of gear in less that three weeks.  Convinced me that multiple people were checking the email. 

Then about two weeks later Gymace started that contest to win that motorcycle and that was the beginning of the end.  I left and never logged back on.   It had that stink to it by then.  Same stink that the original Triedia had when the two board sources merged into being Da Boyz.  I used to fucking cringe every time Super Woman typed "da boyz" in one of her stupid replies.  I wanted to hold that bitch down and slap her with my cock for being so damn stupid. 

[ESFitness]

LOL- Yes I remember that! I forget his screenname too but he was a member on SSB and he made the labels for alot of uGL's on SSB even Gymaces labels. I remeber when he ran off with that money. I thought the same thing. getting scammmed on labels-LOL priceless. Yes I was one of the first guys who got the gear in the boxes. That run the labels actually got fucked up and the guy fucked up the date manufactured, It said manufactured a year after. so it looked unprofessional I called it gear from the future because as far as the manufactured date it was a year away. USPharma was actually pissed at the guy who made those labels even back then and he did get the guy to send him a new batch of labels and USPharma sent me correct labels.

Uspharma used to always fight with this guy called bigpimpin something or other. Uspharma would always sell this guy 2 grand orders and also front him some gear on top of what the guy bought and everytime there was a problem and it got voiced on SSB. It was hilarious and then the two would fix it up then next order something else would happen like the guy accused USpharma sent him winstrol that was not peg winstrol and he bitched then USpharma would come on and say yes it was peg based winstrol and he wanted his money. I told USPharma stop dealing with this guy every single time you sell him gear you guys have a big fight and all this personal business gets fought out on the forum in the open. The guy did order a few thousand dollars of gear but USpharma would always front him some extra and there was always some kind of problem.

Big buyers are nice but if they are going to bitch about something everytime why continue to bother with them? anyway USpharma had some gambling issues and needed money. All these sources seem like they are making alot of money but they all have some crazy addictions wether it is drugs or gambling or investments they always seem to have less money then they should have.

it's not a 'steady' business.. there's peak's and valley's. so you can come out of pocket $20k, and be sitting on $300k worth of inventory, get hit with $10k un-expected expenses on top of your regular obligations, and be broke, or be near to it. it's like being house-poor.... or you can run your inventory down (holding inventory in business is generally a bad thing, but in this biz it's a good thing because of the unpredictability of the 'environment') and be expecting a couple $10k orders from a couple regular customers and for some reason THEY flake on you and can't do $10k, they can only do $1k, but they expect $3k worth of product (while he sits there wearing a $22k 18k gold Rolex YMII with a CL600 in the parking lot..  ), and you're 'accounts receivable' goes from $20k , down to $3k and you have to pull money from other investments.

we're not buying and selling coffee beans or orange juice concentrate here... there's unpredictability in the market on both sides, which is why we charge what we charge. we're the one's taking the risk.. the serious risks. not just talking a $300 cash order. 

[BigRo]

Balkan sucks bro. It's pushed over in Moldova by Alin.

hmm it gets good review online and in person...

[ESFitness]

haha..

tbol that's actually dbol with nolva? 10mg dbol with 5mg nolva can mimick tbol's 'effects'

masteron that's actually tren? 30mg of tren can seem like 100mg masteron.


I've been telling you guys about this all along. dirty tricks of incompetent 'cooks'.

[whitewidow]

Paging WhiteWidow, please pick up the white courtesy phone...

I think it is hit and miss Bostin lloyd used balkan pharm but he also was using a few other brands so hard to tell wich brand worked the best. balkan Pharm is made just like the British Dragon gear that was made the last few months before the closed down. Alin had guys who brewed up the last few batches of british dragon gear and Genxxlgear said it wasn;t the sa,me as when the original guys brewed it but one of them died that month so alin took over then genxxlgear stopped excepting the gear and started pushing a new line called axio labs and alin changed the name to Balkan Pharm Gear as he was not the one who came up with the british dragon name and gear line-up but as you can see alin did a good job of knocking off british dragons look of the gear and the products. so did genxxlgear with axio labs they knocked off british dragons products and good looking vials.

[whitewidow]

it's not a 'steady' business.. there's peak's and valley's. so you can come out of pocket $20k, and be sitting on $300k worth of inventory, get hit with $10k un-expected expenses on top of your regular obligations, and be broke, or be near to it. it's like being house-poor.... or you can run your inventory down (holding inventory in business is generally a bad thing, but in this biz it's a good thing because of the unpredictability of the 'environment') and be expecting a couple $10k orders from a couple regular customers and for some reason THEY flake on you and can't do $10k, they can only do $1k, but they expect $3k worth of product (while he sits there wearing a $22k 18k gold Rolex YMII with a CL600 in the parking lot..  ), and you're 'accounts receivable' goes from $20k , down to $3k and you have to pull money from other investments.

we're not buying and selling coffee beans or orange juice concentrate here... there's unpredictability in the market on both sides, which is why we charge what we charge. we're the one's taking the risk.. the serious risks. not just talking a $300 cash order. 

way diffrent when your not private and a source on SSB. SSb had guys buying out every source! I remember when LE flipped Anapharm and logged in as anapharm and took orders as if they were anapharm for 1 whole month and they took in about 94,000$ and people were not even getting their orders every now and then LE would come on and post up that they were waiting on raw materials and it would take longer . Anapharm sold 50ml jugs and 10ml vials as well as the golden triangle lab so they got alot of business. That was a shitty month and Anapharm still took in 94,000$ with the LE answering their emails. Nobody got a pack all month and people kept ordering thinking they would get their gear. That was a sad sting! I actually donated some gear to some of the guys who lost gear, Anapharm also sold blue top HGH domestic so you could see how it could add up fast. I think on a regular good month where people actually got their products in a few days they got 130.000$ in orders. All SSB sources did real well.

[Mawse]

Bumping this for a ProTip since some people seem helpless

Yes, SRCS was easy but for $20 you can have anything tested to USP

You just need to spend five mins on google looking for chemical testing labs in China, India etc where they can legally test your powder. It takes a week or two but is totally worth it.